Tired of the cry babies

Jallan

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I am a no one in the pool world. My longest pack is a 4 pack, off a Magic Rack no less. I get scared when I play players better than me. My opinion is worth nothing and my reputation is better than I think it should ever be... but here goes.

I am so tired of this "breaker shoots after a legal break" bull. I have busted my rear to make my break better. I have spent hours racking and breaking because I wanted to earn that wing ball.

9 ball has been played by nearly the same set of rules for how long, and never would you have heard any of the greats say, "you know what, that was a legal break and even though you didn't make a ball go ahead and shoot out the rack."

This is the same issues as little league teams who don't keep score because they don't want any of the kids to think they lost. "Lets give everyone a trophy because they tried." I didn't get any awards as a kid because I tried.... and if I would have I would have had the common sense to throw them away. I would have known they were pitty awards and would have been insulted they got tossed my way.

You come to the table and you break and you make a ball and if you don't, sit your sally rear in the chair. No pitty, no rewards. Stop throwing a fit about what isn't fair and make it fair.... you know why they break better than you? Because they worked at it, thats why. You know how you level the playing field? You practice too.

This thread will die in 4 hours and that may be a good thing but I wanted to let all you know how I feel about this touchy feely crap that half, or at least a verbal group is embrassing... stop being a bunch of cry babies and play the game the way it is suppose to be played. You break, you make, you run.... you break, you don't make, you get beat.

Jered Allan
 

greyghost

Coast to Coast
Silver Member
I get your drift......thats all the more that I think that Shane's hearing "disability" is no disability at all....if anything its a benefit....its part of his natural ability imop.

wouldn't it be great if you could just play the game and enjoy it without hearing all the BS?

Sometimes I wish I could hit a switch and just hear Crickets....
 

poolplayer2093

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I get your drift......thats all the more that I think that Shane's hearing "disability" is no disability at all....if anything its a benefit....its part of his natural ability imop.

wouldn't it be great if you could just play the game and enjoy it without hearing all the BS?

Sometimes I wish I could hit a switch and just hear Crickets....

i hate hearing sweaters talking about what i should have done while i'm playing.
 

richiebalto

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I am a no one in the pool world. My longest pack is a 4 pack, off a Magic Rack no less. I get scared when I play players better than me. My opinion is worth nothing and my reputation is better than I think it should ever be... but here goes.

I am so tired of this "breaker shoots after a legal break" bull. I have busted my rear to make my break better. I have spent hours racking and breaking because I wanted to earn that wing ball.

9 ball has been played by nearly the same set of rules for how long, and never would you have heard any of the greats say, "you know what, that was a legal break and even though you didn't make a ball go ahead and shoot out the rack."

This is the same issues as little league teams who don't keep score because they don't want any of the kids to think they lost. "Lets give everyone a trophy because they tried." I didn't get any awards as a kid because I tried.... and if I would have I would have had the common sense to throw them away. I would have known they were pitty awards and would have been insulted they got tossed my way.

You come to the table and you break and you make a ball and if you don't, sit your sally rear in the chair. No pitty, no rewards. Stop throwing a fit about what isn't fair and make it fair.... you know why they break better than you? Because they worked at it, thats why. You know how you level the playing field? You practice too.

This thread will die in 4 hours and that may be a good thing but I wanted to let all you know how I feel about this touchy feely crap that half, or at least a verbal group is embrassing... stop being a bunch of cry babies and play the game the way it is suppose to be played. You break, you make, you run.... you break, you don't make, you get beat.

Jered Allan

nobody could say it any better then this.agree 100 percent
 

sawtex

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Crying about the crybabies are we?....... If a rail bird is commenting on your shots loud enough for you to hear and it bothers you ask him politely the first time and with what ever volume and force necessary the second time to STFU.
 

dr9ball

"Lock Doctor"
Silver Member
edited original post

9 ball has been played by nearly the same set of rules for how long, and never would you have heard any of the greats say, "you know what, that was a legal break and even though you didn't make a ball go ahead and shoot out the rack."

play the game the way it is suppose to be played. You break, you make, you run.... you break, you don't make, you get beat.

Jered Allan

If you want to go back to the "9 ball rules" that were played for so long...can we bring back the 2 shot roll out rule and get rid of ball in hand after every foul?
 

Tony_in_MD

You want some of this?
Silver Member
Love your post sir. You have said it all.

I am a no one in the pool world. My longest pack is a 4 pack, off a Magic Rack no less. I get scared when I play players better than me. My opinion is worth nothing and my reputation is better than I think it should ever be... but here goes.

I am so tired of this "breaker shoots after a legal break" bull. I have busted my rear to make my break better. I have spent hours racking and breaking because I wanted to earn that wing ball.

9 ball has been played by nearly the same set of rules for how long, and never would you have heard any of the greats say, "you know what, that was a legal break and even though you didn't make a ball go ahead and shoot out the rack."

This is the same issues as little league teams who don't keep score because they don't want any of the kids to think they lost. "Lets give everyone a trophy because they tried." I didn't get any awards as a kid because I tried.... and if I would have I would have had the common sense to throw them away. I would have known they were pitty awards and would have been insulted they got tossed my way.

You come to the table and you break and you make a ball and if you don't, sit your sally rear in the chair. No pitty, no rewards. Stop throwing a fit about what isn't fair and make it fair.... you know why they break better than you? Because they worked at it, thats why. You know how you level the playing field? You practice too.

This thread will die in 4 hours and that may be a good thing but I wanted to let all you know how I feel about this touchy feely crap that half, or at least a verbal group is embrassing... stop being a bunch of cry babies and play the game the way it is suppose to be played. You break, you make, you run.... you break, you don't make, you get beat.

Jered Allan
 

Pushout

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
If you want to go back to the "9 ball rules" that were played for so long...can we bring back the 2 shot roll out rule and get rid of ball in hand after every foul?

That will never happen. Most people playing by today's rules don't understand the game and it takes too long to get any good at it. I'd love to see it but it won't happen.
 

Mikjary

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
That will never happen. Most people playing by today's rules don't understand the game and it takes too long to get any good at it. I'd love to see it but it won't happen.

What about playing in a tourney that doesn't allow jump cues? You can roll out to a jump shot and completely dominate most players that have never learned to jump balls with their cue. Most of the safety specialists and grinders would have to learn about actually running out instead of ducking or running over to get the jump toothpick when they get out of line.

Best,
Mike
 

TheVirus

The Pool Guy
Silver Member
I'm sorry.. maybe I'm too new but I don't know what this thread is about... what do you mean shoot after a legal break? Don't we all shoot after legal breaks...
 

inside_english

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Bump to get a great message past the 4 hour mark.

Liberalism is ruining America.
That's funny...I thought racism, corrupt government officials, being played by the news media (all of them), ignorance, poor education and general apathy by the public was ruining America.

Shows what I know!
 

inside_english

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I am a no one in the pool world. My longest pack is a 4 pack, off a Magic Rack no less. I get scared when I play players better than me. My opinion is worth nothing and my reputation is better than I think it should ever be... but here goes.

I am so tired of this "breaker shoots after a legal break" bull. I have busted my rear to make my break better. I have spent hours racking and breaking because I wanted to earn that wing ball.

9 ball has been played by nearly the same set of rules for how long, and never would you have heard any of the greats say, "you know what, that was a legal break and even though you didn't make a ball go ahead and shoot out the rack."

This is the same issues as little league teams who don't keep score because they don't want any of the kids to think they lost. "Lets give everyone a trophy because they tried." I didn't get any awards as a kid because I tried.... and if I would have I would have had the common sense to throw them away. I would have known they were pitty awards and would have been insulted they got tossed my way.

You come to the table and you break and you make a ball and if you don't, sit your sally rear in the chair. No pitty, no rewards. Stop throwing a fit about what isn't fair and make it fair.... you know why they break better than you? Because they worked at it, thats why. You know how you level the playing field? You practice too.

This thread will die in 4 hours and that may be a good thing but I wanted to let all you know how I feel about this touchy feely crap that half, or at least a verbal group is embrassing... stop being a bunch of cry babies and play the game the way it is suppose to be played. You break, you make, you run.... you break, you don't make, you get beat.

Jered Allan
I agree 100%.

I have never even heard of being allowed to shoot because I made a legal break! The very notion is ridiculous!

So what's next...I make a legal hit on a ball so I am allowed to stay at the table even though I miss? When does my opponent ever get to shoot? That would mean the only time I lose a turn is if I commit a foul.

So there we have it...we can now have a new game called "no-foul nine ball".

Whoever thought of having players continuing their inning because the break was legal should be tied nude to an ant hill and smeared with honey.
 

tucson9ball

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I am a no one in the pool world. My longest pack is a 4 pack, off a Magic Rack no less. I get scared when I play players better than me. My opinion is worth nothing and my reputation is better than I think it should ever be... but here goes.

I am so tired of this "breaker shoots after a legal break" bull. I have busted my rear to make my break better. I have spent hours racking and breaking because I wanted to earn that wing ball.

9 ball has been played by nearly the same set of rules for how long, and never would you have heard any of the greats say, "you know what, that was a legal break and even though you didn't make a ball go ahead and shoot out the rack."

This is the same issues as little league teams who don't keep score because they don't want any of the kids to think they lost. "Lets give everyone a trophy because they tried." I didn't get any awards as a kid because I tried.... and if I would have I would have had the common sense to throw them away. I would have known they were pitty awards and would have been insulted they got tossed my way.

You come to the table and you break and you make a ball and if you don't, sit your sally rear in the chair. No pitty, no rewards. Stop throwing a fit about what isn't fair and make it fair.... you know why they break better than you? Because they worked at it, thats why. You know how you level the playing field? You practice too.

This thread will die in 4 hours and that may be a good thing but I wanted to let all you know how I feel about this touchy feely crap that half, or at least a verbal group is embrassing... stop being a bunch of cry babies and play the game the way it is suppose to be played. You break, you make, you run.... you break, you don't make, you get beat.

Jered Allan


Ok, I'm confused by your post. When does the breaker get to shoot again if no balls are made?
I know some tournaments have a rule that requires a certain amount of balls to pass mid table or you lose yur turn, even if you make a ball. I can't think of any tournaments that allow you another shot if you make no balls.

A rule I like for rack your own tournaments is: the 9 made in the bottom 2 corners should be spotted.
 

billbOK

Slow day
Silver Member
I agree 100%.

I have never even heard of being allowed to shoot because I made a legal break! The very notion is ridiculous!

So what's next...I make a legal hit on a ball so I am allowed to stay at the table even though I miss? When does my opponent ever get to shoot? That would mean the only time I lose a turn is if I commit a foul.

So there we have it...we can now have a new game called "no-foul nine ball".

Whoever thought of having players continuing their inning because the break was legal should be tied nude to an ant hill and smeared with honey.

I guess there is a misinterpretation of the rule of "dry break" here.

In some tournament, Eurotour an Mosconi cup for exemple, they introduce this rule to prevent soft breaks.

The rule is that 3 balls MUST pass the head string. Each ball pocketed count as it has pass the head string. So if you pot 2 balls, one more must pass the head string. It is a legal break.

If 3 balls don't pass the head string at the break, it does'nt matter if a ball or not has been pocketed, it is a "dry break" and the breaker loose his turn. The other player has the opportunity to accept the table as it is or give it back to the breaker.
 

tucson9ball

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I guess there is a misinterpretation of the rule of "dry break" here.

In some tournament, Eurotour an Mosconi cup for exemple, they introduce this rule to prevent soft breaks.

The rule is that 3 balls MUST pass the head string. Each ball pocketed count as it has pass the head string. So if you pot 2 balls, one more must pass the head string. It is a legal break.

If 3 balls don't pass the head string at the break, it does'nt matter if a ball or not has been pocketed, it is a "dry break" and the breaker loose his turn. The other player has the opportunity to accept the table as it is or give it back to the breaker.


This makes sense to me. I have heard of this rule, I don't like it but have heard of it.
The original post implies that you can shoot again even if you don't make a ball on the break. He had me confused.
 

PaulieB

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
That's exactly what the original poster is talking about. I thought I read about some rule changes in APA league rules where if you have a legal break and still don't make a ball on the break that you get to continue shooting.

To me, learning to break in a controlled manner and still make a ball on the break is one of the more important skills to have.
 

billbOK

Slow day
Silver Member
This makes sense to me. I have heard of this rule, I don't like it but have heard of it.
The original post implies that you can shoot again even if you don't make a ball on the break. He had me confused.

Yep, I haven't even understand the first post (english is not my language). It is inside_english's post that made me understand what he was talking about. lol
 

billbOK

Slow day
Silver Member
That's exactly what the original poster is talking about. I thought I read about some rule changes in APA league rules where if you have a legal break and still don't make a ball on the break that you get to continue shooting.

To me, learning to break in a controlled manner and still make a ball on the break is one of the more important skills to have.

waaooow, so it looks really crazy if a rule like that is applied...
 
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