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How Do You Get To The 9-Ball Here - 07-03-2006, 11:15 AM

ok, your at the other end of the table from the '9' Ball, straight in, a ways from the corner pocket which makes rail first very difficult.

so, how do you get back down table to pocket the 9-Ball?

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07-03-2006, 11:29 AM

low left. you should be able to get the cb at least to the third diamond top right. rail first also, but i'm not good at that.
  
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07-03-2006, 11:29 AM

Rail first with high right?


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07-03-2006, 11:31 AM

low left?
you might draw back into the corner pocket. and if you cheat the corner pocket you run the risk of jarring the '8' Ball by hitting it pretty hard.

rail first?
i would think it would be pretty difficult to go rail first with the '8' Ball that far from the corner pocket.

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07-03-2006, 11:31 AM

I shoot low-left since my odds of making the 8 are way higher that way than with the rail-first shot. If I have to shoot from somewhere near the top side pocket, then so be it; at least I'm still shooting.

I saw Basavich leave himself straight on the nine from this spot on a 9-footer with slow, nappy cloth. It almost looked like the cueball curved a little after it hit the first rail, it had so much draw on it. That dude's got a huge stroke, though.
  
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07-03-2006, 11:32 AM

I agree with Bruin, if you're not comfortable going rail first and you can get the cue back to the rail low left is the way to go. Otherwise your only other option is to roll it forward and take a tough cut or play safe.


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07-03-2006, 11:34 AM

Cool. I'll try it tonight. Both ways.


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07-03-2006, 11:35 AM

Use the mirror system on the 8-ball and make it rail first.


  
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07-03-2006, 11:39 AM

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low left?
you might draw back into the corner pocket. and if you cheat the corner pocket you run the risk of jarring the '8' Ball by hitting it pretty hard.

rail first?
i would think it would be pretty difficult to go rail first with the '8' Ball that far from the corner pocket.

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Definately low left, the way you have that set up there is no way you are gonna draw back and scratch if you make the 8 ball. Plus its an easy shot to make, just gotta stroke the hell out of it to get down table.

Rail first would work, but its way lower percentage IMO. Id stick with the low left.


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07-03-2006, 11:43 AM

I guess there's the masse, too, but I only like that if the 8 is much closer to the cb.
  
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07-03-2006, 11:47 AM

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low left?
you might draw back into the corner pocket.

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07-03-2006, 11:53 AM

Its difficult unless you can get down and see the fine angles. I prefer right english with a little follow. The right english helps increase the angle to the rail because of the throw inparted on the object ball and gives more room for the cue ball to escape the corner pocket. Left english would require a fuller hit because of the throw and pull the cue ball into the corner with the draw. Throw and deflection on exteme english shots, like this, are a factor.
  
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07-03-2006, 11:55 AM

Jack-up a little, hit the eight firm so that the CB bounces up a little and hits the edge of the rail, and then rolls straight down table for shape on the 9.

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07-03-2006, 11:59 AM

maybe im looking at it wrong but it looks like just some right would spin you around 2 rails to have the 9ball in the upper right corner
  
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07-03-2006, 12:00 PM

I would probably go rail first. For me its not the distance to the pocket that makes rail first shots hard but rather how far the object ball is away from the rail. Hard to tell off the wei table but if im feeling confident about the distance id do rail first over a big draw. I mean even if i were to miss the 8 i would be leaving the 2 balls about a full tables length away from each other. Now if i wasnt confortable with it then id deff go with the draw than the masse.


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