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How long do Kamui blacks last? - 07-23-2016, 06:41 AM

I play 15-20 hours a week. How long should I expect a Kamui black super soft to last? Do they compress much? Need reshaping often?

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3 weeks.............
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07-23-2016, 08:03 AM

If you like the feel of the cue tip bitting the cue ball. Then I'd say 2-3 weeks with the amount of hours you've mentioned. It does mushroom once according to my experience with them.


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07-23-2016, 10:34 AM

It won't play like a super soft for very long

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07-23-2016, 10:53 AM

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If you like the feel of the cue tip bitting the cue ball. Then I'd say 2-3 weeks with the amount of hours you've mentioned. It does mushroom once according to my experience with them.
You seem to be saying that he will get only 2-3 weeks of play out of the tip before he has to have it replaced. Or are you saying that he will have to reshape it every 2 weeks?

I pretty much never reshape my tips. It has been a long time since I had one that mushroomed.


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tips - 07-23-2016, 11:05 AM

Some times they mushroom a little after new install. Then trim back down and good to go for 6 months to a year. I never pic, shape, scuff ,or touch my tips and they never change. I find that the guys that go through tips are always messing with them and scuffing etc.


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07-23-2016, 12:17 PM

I only play 5 or so hours, once a week, and mine has lasted a couple years. I even chopped half of mine off because I didn't like the way it played when it was "tall". I think it plays better when it is about half the height of what it is when it is first put on.

When I first got it put on, it was tall and felt "bendy" when you hit the ball and it was too "tacky". When it gets shorter it gets firmer and I like the hit better. I have more feel for the cue ball.
  
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07-23-2016, 03:15 PM

I think it will harden to a certain extent, but then should stay pretty consistent from there.

I think kamui's also hold their shape really well.

I feel like I wasted a lot of tips at first because I was constantly trying to keep that perfect nickel or dime radius. I would blow through a tip in like a month from constantly trying to re-shape it.

I think after the initial shaping, your tip will want to stay at a certain curvature based on how you play. You can re-shape it, but it will return to that certain radius just based on your style.

If you don't try and fight it and just let your stroke shape your tip, you will get a lot more play out of it.
  
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07-23-2016, 03:45 PM

It will last as long as any other tip you take care of........super soft will tend to harden over time but if you
maintain the tip correctly, the difference will be gradually slow to notice and you'll enjoy using the tip.

I have Kamui Clear Black Tips Soft & Super-soft........I prefer the soft a little more than the super-soft,
but medium in Kamui is a little too hard for my preferences......and the tip last awhile when maintained.


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07-23-2016, 03:56 PM

If you do like the Hawaiian says and never touch it, years.

People messing with it too much when they miscue or something.
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07-23-2016, 08:59 PM

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You seem to be saying that he will get only 2-3 weeks of play out of the tip before he has to have it replaced. Or are you saying that he will have to reshape it every 2 weeks?

I pretty much never reshape my tips. It has been a long time since I had one that mushroomed.
After installation and play, it will mushroom once or twice. Then it won't mushroom again. It will only last 2-3 weeks after installation if he plays 15-20hrs a day.


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After installation and play, it will mushroom once or twice. Then it won't mushroom again. It will only last 2-3 weeks after installation if he plays 15-20hrs a day.
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Well sir, what I'm saying is if he likes a lot of bite with the cue ball. It'll only last 2-3 weeks. This is what most "Taiwanese" pros do, when they feel they get lesser bite with the cue ball, they considered it too stiff/hard, so they replaced their tip very oftenly.

I change my tips once every 1-2 months. Everyone has different opinions about how they like their tip. I just thought, the OP is picky with his tips.


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07-23-2016, 09:55 PM

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Well sir, what I'm saying is if he likes a lot of bite with the cue ball. It'll only last 2-3 weeks. This is what most "Taiwanese" pros do, when they feel they get lesser bite with the cue ball, they considered it too stiff/hard, so they replaced their tip very oftenly.

I change my tips once every 1-2 months. Everyone has different opinions about how they like their tip. I just thought, the OP is picky with his tips.
Timothy is 100% correct... Buy a Durometer and check the tip every day... It will hit a point where the tip hardens to the point it loses the last bit of bounce it had when new... It used to make me about 4 weeks before I changed mine.... I could have played with it longer but I preferred the grip and bounch they had when new... After the new wore off not so much so on with another one.....


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Timothy is 100% correct... Buy a Durometer and check the tip every day... It will hit a point where the tip hardens to the point it loses the last bit of bounce it had when new... It used to make me about 4 weeks before I changed mine.... I could have played with it longer but I preferred the grip and bounch they had when new... After the new wore off not so much so on with another one.....
I will let you keep playing with the durometer. The question was how long do they last, not how long do they stay perfectly new.


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