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Broken Revo - 01-14-2017, 09:38 AM

Did anyone else see this on facebook? Someone apparently got mad and slapped the Revo on the table and it snapped in 2...I thought the Revo was indestructible.
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01-14-2017, 10:01 AM

PVC pipe stuffed with fiberglass....$1300 please. .Johnnyt


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01-14-2017, 10:05 AM

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PVC pipe stuffed with fiberglass....$1300 please. .Johnnyt
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01-14-2017, 10:09 AM

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01-14-2017, 10:12 AM

I think a lot of people have little experience with carbon fiber products...Take fishing rods, for instance. You can slam a carbon fiber fishing rod into a rock, and it will seem perfectly fine. Then suddenly, while you are fighting a fish, it snaps on the exact spot where you hit it previously. Sure, carbon fiber is a strong material, but it's far from indistructible. Especially not as a pool cue, where it may (of may not, depending on the owners temperament) suffer sudden shocks in a direction it was not designed to be resistant to.

An owner slamming the cue against the table is completely different from the same person hitting a ball in the proper way with the stick. Wood may get dented and slightly bent, but it takes A LOT of punishment to break a wooden pool shaft. You almost have to try to do it. Carbon fiber may only take one good hit to break right then and there, or at a later time when you had long forgotten about the crucial impact.

There are many advantages to synthetic pool shafts, but there are even more drawbacks. I'm sticking to my regular wood shafts, for now.
  
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01-14-2017, 10:18 AM

Don't know why people think this shaft is "indestructible" that term has never been used by predator. What they do say is it is "highly resistant" to damage
  
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01-14-2017, 10:28 AM

Actually the Revo shaft is indestructable under normal use. It will not dent nor warp. Slamming it onto anything is abuse not intended as normal use, and voids the warranty, I would expect.

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I think a lot of people have little experience with carbon fiber products...Take fishing rods, for instance. You can slam a carbon fiber fishing rod into a rock, and it will seem perfectly fine. Then suddenly, while you are fighting a fish, it snaps on the exact spot where you hit it previously. Sure, carbon fiber is a strong material, but it's far from indistructible. Especially not as a pool cue, where it may (of may not, depending on the owners temperament) suffer sudden shocks in a direction it was not designed to be resistant to.

An owner slamming the cue against the table is completely different from the same person hitting a ball in the proper way with the stick. Wood may get dented and slightly bent, but it takes A LOT of punishment to break a wooden pool shaft. You almost have to try to do it. Carbon fiber may only take one good hit to break right then and there, or at a later time when you had long forgotten about the crucial impact.

There are many advantages to synthetic pool shafts, but there are even more drawbacks. I'm sticking to my regular wood shafts, for now.


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01-14-2017, 10:41 AM

Does it state idiot proof in the Predator warranty?


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01-14-2017, 10:52 AM

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Actually the Revo shaft is indestructable under normal use. It will not dent nor warp. Slamming it onto anything is abuse not intended as normal use, and voids the warranty, I would expect.

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Exactly. Carbon-fiber is directional. Hitting the shaft on the side will break it every time. Golf shafts are same way: VERY strong in flexing/unflexing but very easy to break if hit from the side.
  
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01-14-2017, 10:56 AM

FWIW, I HOPE EVERY idiot who slams his cue on something breaks it. Whether they be REVO, WalMartO, Balabushka, Szamboti, or whatever.

Cues are made to play pool with...not throw and slam around.

If you miss a ball or make a mistake and slam your cue, YOU ARE AN IDIOT!
  
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01-14-2017, 11:16 AM

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FWIW, I HOPE EVERY idiot who slams his cue on something breaks it. Whether they be REVO, WalMartO, Balabushka, Szamboti, or whatever.

Cues are made to play pool with...not throw and slam around.

If you miss a ball or make a mistake and slam your cue, YOU ARE AN IDIOT!
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01-14-2017, 11:56 AM

the fracture on the pic is very unusual for a CF composite cone/rod who has been slapped at 90 of the cone axis....

the fracture looks almost perfectly symetrical and at 90, and the probability so see a different fracture shape resulting of this kind of impact is , IMHO, much much higher.... . where are the awaited longitudinal fractures ? no trace on the section pic...ROFL a miracle ??

i 've "played" a lot with CF/epoxy in another hobby -including microsandwichs-, and , even i'm not a physician, this picture tells me "we should try to reproduce this issue and compare the fracture shapes".... just for fun :-D .

IMHO at least, we can guess that this shaft wasn't made with a/some CF tissue(s), but was probably made of CF -short- fiber , by molding. Not the same resistance/resiliance , but easier to produce, and damn enough interesting properties for a pool/billiard shaft you obtain.


my 2 cents : the cue wasn't simply slapped, a jig / knife helped a bit to obtain this fracture shape ...

kind of Hoax it is, IMHO

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01-14-2017, 12:49 PM

The Shaft was slapped on the side of a bar box. The guy admitted it and doesn't deny it. Predator has the shaft now. How do I know? Those are my pics, buddy of mine did that. It states on there site that it has foam inside of it. It's no surprise.


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01-14-2017, 02:28 PM

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Exactly. Carbon-fiber is directional. Hitting the shaft on the side will break it every time. Golf shafts are same way: VERY strong in flexing/unflexing but very easy to break if hit from the side.
It's very possible the CF was pultruded, not table-rolled as most golf shafts, or interweaved, like some others. Regardless, golf shafts ha1ve CF sheets with different layers, each layer going in a different direction. Pool shafts don't need to withstand 127mph clubhead speed (Bubby Watson) however. The Mezz masse' cue looks to be table-rolled, but looks like Kevlar.

The foam core is what gives the shaft its strength, because it prevents the CF outer layer from deforming when bent (i.e. hoop strength.) There is no foam in a golf shaft because that would affect feel in a negative way (they use titanium nickel wire, Kevlar, and other composites to minimize deformation.)
  
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01-14-2017, 02:45 PM

This is such a s**t company it's amazing.
And then they dare sell this stuff, and their cues, for more than shafts and cues made by some of our best professionals in the field.
What a joke.

If it wasn't for people falling for their bs advertising and them having convinced people that their game is somehow going to get better if only they buy their shafts...lol....they would be charging 50 bucks for this shaft...AND STILL MAKE VERY GOOD PROFIT.


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