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Possibly???? What Happened - 11-20-2006, 10:18 PM

I spoke to an IPT ref on Saturday (I will not out him here). However, we were discussing the IPT and its possible demise. He told me the following....

The IPT and HO had plans to have 12 tables at every event, streamed live on the internet. Through HO Casinos, you could bet just about everything, online WORLDWIDE (winner of the tournament, winner of a certain match, winner of a certain game, even a players chances of getting out in a certain rack0. Then, the online gambling ban happened. Once Ho saw this, he hiccupped on the whole deal, and decided to rethink the whole thing. IF the gambling act had not passed, I think KT and Ho would have made a S**TLOAD of money, and we WOULD have had the greatest pro tour the world had ever seen.
  
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11-20-2006, 10:40 PM

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I spoke to an IPT ref on Saturday (I will not out him here). However, we were discussing the IPT and its possible demise. He told me the following....

The IPT and HO had plans to have 12 tables at every event, streamed live on the internet. Through HO Casinos, you could bet just about everything, online WORLDWIDE (winner of the tournament, winner of a certain match, winner of a certain game, even a players chances of getting out in a certain rack0. Then, the online gambling ban happened. Once Ho saw this, he hiccupped on the whole deal, and decided to rethink the whole thing. IF the gambling act had not passed, I think KT and Ho would have made a S**TLOAD of money, and we WOULD have had the greatest pro tour the world had ever seen.
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11-20-2006, 10:45 PM

and the ref was told this by the ipt staff, NOT the Ho organization. I was going to be sarcastic and write lol, but there is nothing funny about how EVERYONE involved with the ipt has been treated. I have NO doubt that the ref BELIEVED everything he was saying. The problem is, he was just repeating what he was told.

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11-20-2006, 10:57 PM

If only every student in a school had the ability to go beyond repeating what the person in front of the class says,

A lot of problems could solve themselves.

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11-20-2006, 10:57 PM

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I spoke to an IPT ref on Saturday (I will not out him here). However, we were discussing the IPT and its possible demise. He told me the following....

The IPT and HO had plans to have 12 tables at every event, streamed live on the internet. Through HO Casinos, you could bet just about everything, online WORLDWIDE (winner of the tournament, winner of a certain match, winner of a certain game, even a players chances of getting out in a certain rack0. Then, the online gambling ban happened. Once Ho saw this, he hiccupped on the whole deal, and decided to rethink the whole thing. IF the gambling act had not passed, I think KT and Ho would have made a S**TLOAD of money, and we WOULD have had the greatest pro tour the world had ever seen.
Of course, and the Pope is Jewish.

Look, if Ho wanted to do something like that, he only had to offer to pay a reasonable fee to any major tournament, including the IPT, and they would have allowed him to set the video up. He didn't have to buy a losing tour for $150M. Think man!

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11-20-2006, 11:16 PM

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I spoke to an IPT ref on Saturday (I will not out him here). However, we were discussing the IPT and its possible demise. He told me the following....

The IPT and HO had plans to have 12 tables at every event, streamed live on the internet. Through HO Casinos, you could bet just about everything, online WORLDWIDE (winner of the tournament, winner of a certain match, winner of a certain game, even a players chances of getting out in a certain rack0. Then, the online gambling ban happened. Once Ho saw this, he hiccupped on the whole deal, and decided to rethink the whole thing. IF the gambling act had not passed, I think KT and Ho would have made a S**TLOAD of money, and we WOULD have had the greatest pro tour the world had ever seen.
This belongs in the "NON REALITY RELATED" forum


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11-21-2006, 12:17 AM

[QUOTE=Fleece3]I spoke to an IPT ref on Saturday (I will not out him here). However, we were discussing the IPT and its possible demise. He told me the following......blah blah.....

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Just how naive can you get?

IPT refs were so highly thought of by IPT and so much "in the loop" about IPT operations that even after some of them having to come into these forums here to complain about not being paid they still didn't get a penny until the hovering lawyers started to put the wind up IPT on behalf of other unpaid interests

Have you not understood a single word that competent truthful people who have investigated this subject have explained over and over again? There never were any Ho negotiations,let alone any specific Ho financing deal foiled at the eleventh hour,period.Get over it.Sometimes the brown smelly object on the pavement you have stepped on is just plain and simple a dog turd,no amount of wishful thinking will turn it into a recently abandoned chocolate eclair
  
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11-21-2006, 12:18 AM

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Of course, and the Pope is Jewish.

Look, if Ho wanted to do something like that, he only had to offer to pay a reasonable fee to any major tournament, including the IPT, and they would have allowed him to set the video up. He didn't have to buy a losing tour for $150M. Think man!

Jim
Not REALLY...There is NO major tour that would have drawn the players that the IPT could have drawn WITH EVERY EVENT!! The proposed payouts guaranteed it.

However, I am simply repeating what I was told by an insider. Do I give it merit?... A little more than I give all of the wild speculation that I read on the boards. To me, it sounds like a reasonable business plan and the IPT WOULD have made $$$$$ if this was/is true.

Now it is my turn to say "think man". If this had borne out Ho and KT could have raked in, what, 10, 20 million per event!!! WORLDWIDE betting!! Hell, Asia and the Phillippines alone would have made it worthwhile.
  
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11-21-2006, 12:33 AM

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Just how naive can you get?

Get over it.
Get over what!!! I have NO interest in Ho or the IPT.

I simply posted a message stating what I was told. You can believe it or not. I DID NOT say I believed it!!!!

But I have learned my lesson. I will NEVER again pass on any info I receive to this board!!!! Less I be called NAIVE or told to GET OVER IT.

I am going to stick to practicing and playing pool. And hopefully, I will see you on the slate.

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11-21-2006, 12:53 AM

Glad to learn that you didn't believe it Fleece

The "inside information" theory you posted about online streaming of games accompanied by a gambling facility to attract gamblers and deter them from simply betting on IPT with another online firm has already been done to death in these forums and in bars and clubs all over the world.It is the only angle to the "online betting" connection that ever had any shred of credibility,albeit not much. Unfortunately however the story has already been thoroughly debunked as being totally untrue.

Under those circumstances when we now see you posting the same old theory in a kind of wide-eyed style you will appreciate how we might arrive at the conclusion that you give it some credibilty and are being naive.We do not know that you haven't kept up to speed on several earlier promotions of this theory and on recent debunking of the entire Ho angle.

Suit yourself what you do with your future "inside information",especially if it's of this calibre
  
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11-21-2006, 12:59 AM

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Glad to learn that you didn't believe it Fleece

The "inside information" theory you posted about online streaming of games accompanied by a gambling facility to attract gamblers and deter them from simply betting on IPT with another online firm has already been done to death in these forums and in bars and clubs all over the world.It is the only angle to the "online betting" connection that ever had any shred of credibility,albeit not much. Unfortunately however the story has already been thoroughly debunked as being totally untrue.

Under those circumstances when we now see you posting the same old theory in a kind of wide-eyed style you will appreciate how we might arrive at the conclusion that you give it some credibilty and are being naive.We do not know that you haven't kept up to speed on several earlier promotions of this theory and on recent debunking of the entire Ho angle.

Suit yourself what you do with your future "inside information",especially if it's of this calibre

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11-21-2006, 01:00 AM

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Not REALLY...There is NO major tour that would have drawn the players that the IPT could have drawn WITH EVERY EVENT!! The proposed payouts guaranteed it.

However, I am simply repeating what I was told by an insider. Do I give it merit?... A little more than I give all of the wild speculation that I read on the boards. To me, it sounds like a reasonable business plan and the IPT WOULD have made $$$$$ if this was/is true.

Now it is my turn to say "think man". If this had borne out Ho and KT could have raked in, what, 10, 20 million per event!!! WORLDWIDE betting!! Hell, Asia and the Phillippines alone would have made it worthwhile
So if this theory is true,what's stopping them?.....not the US legislation that's for sure
  
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11-21-2006, 01:00 AM

FLEECE,

Do you find the timing of HO's epithany "coincidental"? Esp in view of how long proposed legislation had been on the table prior to RENO and when it was signed.


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and the ref was told this by the ipt staff, NOT the Ho organization.

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11-21-2006, 02:16 AM

KT or the political candidate has created a hot topic for pool players.

The only coverage of the candidate was his own, no doubtly will be all glorifying. The unsuspecting voters or pool players were swayed by the press which creates today's controversy.

NYC cue is organizing a group (Eydie gets some cred to) to shed light on our political star KT.

Just because NYC didnt invest as much as KT on slander campaigns doesn't make his arguments less credible. So far he has proven a man of choice words. Which is more than I can say for KT.

But it does leave a hint of mystery and unpredictability. What I do know is that he is for the pool players very much as KT. RG has a longer history in the pool world, and he played in a tourney which I saw.

As far as promises go KT has more excuses than delivered promises. If you ever dated someone and they start giving excuses about not hanging out, you know that they are not putting any effort into that relationship.

***since every is so open to questioning posters on this thread why not someone attempt to field questions for KT camp. To sum it up why not parrot his press releases.

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