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Cool Billiards greatest strokes - 05-13-2007, 01:15 PM

5 most Powerful strokes:#1.Mike Massey

#2.Jack Hines

#3.Larry Nevel

#4.Earl Strickland

#5.Cole Dickson

5 prettiest strokes:#1.Rodney Morris

#2.Wade Crane

#3.Louie Roberts

#4.Jimmy Mataya

#5.Willie Mosconi

5 ugliest strokes:#1.Dick Lane

#2.Bushwacker Nolan

#3.Mike Davis

#4.Nick Varner

#5.Steve Moore

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05-13-2007, 01:23 PM

Denny Searcy in both catagories
  
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05-13-2007, 01:30 PM

How can you mention beautiful strokes and not put Corey Deuel on the list? Blasphemy! Haha, only kidding. I do admire his stroke as well as Cha-Ching Wu's.


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05-13-2007, 01:36 PM

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How can you mention beautiful strokes and not put Corey Deuel on the list? Blasphemy! Haha, only kidding. I do admire his stroke as well as Cha-Ching Wu's.

As for ugly strokes, I DESPISE the way Tony Ellin strokes. He jumps up after every shot and his follow through is just plain weird. Makes me cringe.
Tony Ellin is no longer with us..show a little class please.
  
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05-13-2007, 01:36 PM

Cisero Murphy had a pretty ugly pre shot stroke. I think Freddy mentioned this in his new book. I know Cisero's nephew post here-hope I don't offend him, but his uncles stroke was pretty akward, even though he was an excellent player.

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05-13-2007, 01:39 PM

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Tony Ellin is no longer with us..show a little class please.


Some of the names such as Mosconi and the other old timers aren't with us either. The thread just asked who everyone thought has the prettiest and ugliest strokes.

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05-13-2007, 01:40 PM

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Denny Searcy in both catagories
Yeah,I've heard about him..but never saw him play.Grady or anyone else that knew him..how great of a player was Searcy?
  
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05-13-2007, 01:48 PM

Billiards greatest strokes.

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5 most Powerful strokes:
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#1.Mike Massey

#2.Jack Hines

#3.Larry Nevel

#4.Earl Strickland

#5.Cole Dickson

5 prettiest strokes:#1.Rodney Morris

#2.Wade Crane

#3.Louie Roberts

#4.Jimmy Mataya

#5.Willie Mosconi

5 ugliest strokes:#1.Dick Lane

#2.Bushwacker Nolan

#3.Mike Davis

#4.Nick Varner

#5.Steve Moore

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05-13-2007, 01:54 PM

You know what would be cool? A video compilation of different strokes showing them at a good angle.

Now someone go make it!
  
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05-13-2007, 01:57 PM

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Tony Ellin is no longer with us..show a little class please.

He was a helluv a player and getting better when we lost him, RIP, nice guy too first class.


Alan Hopkins dosent have a stroke, but what ever you want to call it, it works real good.

Rodney is just natural, amazing. Tang Hoa same thing.


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05-13-2007, 02:21 PM

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Alan Hopkins dosent have a stroke, but what ever you want to call it, it works real good.
I agree. I don't like the way Allen Hopkins sort of pokes at the ball. He has good follow through.


Another stroke that is a weird one is Francisco Bustamante's. I just hate how his pendulum is all over the place and he is constantly raising and lowering his cue butt when doing his practice strokes. I guess it's even more of a testament to him being a fantastic player though.


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05-13-2007, 02:31 PM

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5 most Powerful strokes:#1.Mike Massey

#2.Jack Hines

#3.Larry Nevel

#4.Earl Strickland

#5.Cole Dickson

5 prettiest strokes:#1.Rodney Morris

#2.Wade Crane

#3.Louie Roberts

#4.Jimmy Mataya

#5.Willie Mosconi

5 ugliest strokes:#1.Dick Lane

#2.Bushwacker Nolan

#3.Mike Davis

#4.Nick Varner

#5.Steve Moore

IMHO.Feel free to add your list AZ
The Hillbilly has a pretty powerful stroke himself.
  
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05-13-2007, 02:34 PM

I liked Steve Mizerak's stroke, smooth as silk.


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05-13-2007, 02:43 PM

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Some of the names such as Mosconi and the other old timers aren't with us either. The thread just asked who everyone thought has the prettiest and ugliest strokes.

Tony

i understand your point but Tony was young and left a family the old time guys were old, Tony hadnt even reached his peak. its a sore spot because some players here knew him, or in my case spoke to him many times as an aquantience only. no worries. He was a great guy and it was tragic how he passed, thats why its a sore spot. nobody should get upset, lets all let it slide in Tonys honor.


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05-13-2007, 03:12 PM

Tony knew he had an ugly stroke and ugly mechanics, but he was able to get out more than his opponents - and frankly that was all that mattered to him. IMO, Tony had the most brutal break in the history of pool, making 2-3 balls consistently and running out from anywhere. Tony was a very, very good friend of mine, I doubt that he would have been upset about any of the criticism. That's just how Tony played and it worked well for him - no excuses, no explanations, just pay the man when he's done, shake his hand and be on your way - lol. I would have never started writing or teaching about pool if it were not for Tony's encouragement. "That's a great idea, Dave! Man... you should write some of this stuff down. You should write a book." Tony said that to me about a hundred times before I finally took his advice and started typing.

I spent a lot of time with Cisero Murphy. He was my mentor. Cisero's mechanics might not have been picture perfect, but it worked for him. Cisero had perfect mastery of the cue ball and when playing straight pool he could manipulate balls out of the pack like he was possessed by the devil. His safety play was superb in all games due to the fact that he commanded that rock - it was like the balls, the table, and the cue ball had the utmost respect for Cisero. He was a joy to watch play the game.

Cisero's stroke was a side-armed sort of "J" shaped action that was hideous to see, but the balls went into the pockets like he wanted them to. Cisero had possibly the greatest mind of any pool player I have met before or since. 99% of the information I have passed along over the years come directly from the teachings I personally received from Cisero Murphy. He is in my opinion, undoubtedly the greatest pool player of my lifetime. Your opinion may differ, but he was and always will be my role model.

As far as ugly strokes go, I'd have to affectionately place the late Norbert Lang in that category as well. He had the Willie Hoppe side-arm stroke - but he was also a joy to watch play the game. He and Tony were taken from us way to soon.


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