$10 Moori tips?

Out of all the laminated tips i've tried Moori's have been the most dissapointing. I've tried both slow and mediumand niether help chalk that well,the medium in partictlar,plus i seem to get a lot more miscue's when using them. Changed over to a Tiger Everest and its a much better tip imo.
 
Cause cuemakers and repair guys like to rip people off...

Here is the scoop...you can buy Moori's cheap, 10 bucks or less just about anywhere. They are really no harder to put on than any other tip...but because they are so popular, the cuemakers and repair guys decided, hey...let me capitalize on this and charge more for the tip...make it seem like a premium. I can't blame them at all...but when a guy starts charging 50 bucks to put a Moori on a cue...I get a little PO'd. And yes, I have seen guys charge this much.

What I do is buy my own tips...and just ask the repair guy, how much to put a tip on if I supply the tip? He usually will say 7-10 bucks...then I hand him the Moori and have him do it. The look of disappointment on his face is a dead giveaway. I have done this SEVERAL times with SEVERAL different repair guys, and they all give me the "damn I should of said more" look.

Does anybody do anything in pool without trying to screw someone out of a buck these days?

Shorty
 
karambolista said:
How come that mooris are being sold for only $10 at this site -
http://www.cuestik.com/cuestik/catalog.cfm?dest=dir&linkon=subsection&linkid=389&secid=219 ? Are'nt they being sold from $20-$30 at other sites? Knockoffs?

What's the difference between Soft, Medium, and Quick?
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About half way down on the following link is an ad of theirs saying they are an "Authorized North American Distributor". Also that s, m, q = Soft, Medium, and Hard.

Atlas ad - scroll half way down...
http://www.onthebreaknews.com/Page31.htm
 
Shorty said:
...Does anybody do anything in pool without trying to screw someone out of a buck these days?

Shorty
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These days? What's special about these days. Hasn't that all ways been the way of pool, not to mention the way of economics in general.

Markups on reselling of things is usually done based upon a multiple of the cost of the the item. To me in those terms the markup to put on a Le Pro seems to be a lot higher than the markup to put on a Moori. Furthermore, the markup is much less on a either than it is on a Coke or Pepsi down at your local fast food joint. Cuemakers have to make a living too. The markup is high, but no worse than any other retail outfit. (BTW, I'm tempted to go off topic about Walmart and Mom and Pop stores and people worrying about nickels and dimes, but I won't.)

Some of the cost of Mooris is just left over from when even the repair people were paying 30 bucks a tip from their sources. Prices don't usually come down as quickly as the cost of the item comes down. That's the reality of economics not cuemakers.
 
Shorty said:
Cause cuemakers and repair guys like to rip people off...

Here is the scoop...you can buy Moori's cheap, 10 bucks or less just about anywhere. They are really no harder to put on than any other tip...but because they are so popular, the cuemakers and repair guys decided, hey...let me capitalize on this and charge more for the tip...make it seem like a premium. I can't blame them at all...but when a guy starts charging 50 bucks to put a Moori on a cue...I get a little PO'd. And yes, I have seen guys charge this much.

What I do is buy my own tips...and just ask the repair guy, how much to put a tip on if I supply the tip? He usually will say 7-10 bucks...then I hand him the Moori and have him do it. The look of disappointment on his face is a dead giveaway. I have done this SEVERAL times with SEVERAL different repair guys, and they all give me the "damn I should of said more" look.

Does anybody do anything in pool without trying to screw someone out of a buck these days?

Shorty
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Shorty,

The reason they charge so much is because people are willing to pay. I agree $50 bucks is pretty outragous. I use to charge $35 and to the best of my knowledge that was the lowest price in the area. The whole reason I got into learing how to do repairs was cause I would go through a tip once a month!!!Hitting the ball way too hard and playing at least 8hrs a day. I got tired of going and getting a new tip put on every month. When I did repairs I would charge $10 to put on your tip. I had tons of people that would do the same thing you did. It didnt bother me at all. Usually when I did a tourney I would run out of the moori's any way so if they had thier own tip I still made money.
 
macguy said:
That is all they are worth. They are even cheaper if you buy more. A friend bought them direct and they were like $3.00 a tip.
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If your friend wants to sell some @$3.00 each, Sign me up.
 
Michael Webb said:
If your friend wants to sell some @$3.00 each, Sign me up.
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No kidding. A friend of mine orders them usually in the thousands at a time and can't get them that cheap.

I get them for quite a bit less than $10 each, though...
 
Michael Webb said:
If your friend wants to sell some @$3.00 each, Sign me up.
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I'll take a case at that price too.


10$ is the cheapest I have ever seen them.


Dave
 
I get them at cost directly from Mr. Moori himself in cans of 50, and they are more than $3 a piece even here in Japan. Taking into consideration shipping costs, I have a hard time believing that anybody can sell them for $3 a piece stateside and still make a profit. I'm not saying your friend couldn't have paid only $3 a piece for them, but if he did, somebody was dumping old stock at a loss.
dave
 
Shorty said:
Cause cuemakers and repair guys like to rip people off...
Shorty
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Before you respond with total negativity, Think of this,
Do you make or repair cues
Do you tie up thousands of dollars in stock
Do you measure the waste
Do you measure what sits on the shelf, so when customers need something, you have it.
It is standard business to price items based on results and demand.
It's called business and the right to make a living.

Do you have a job?
Do you make more than minimum wage.
Why?
You don't need to answer but you do need to understand, Everyone thinks because we're in the billiard industry, it's different from other business.
The only difference is we try to explain it to you,
Try that when you go food shopping and you want Porterhouse instead of London broil for the same price.
 
Michael Webb said:
Before you respond with total negativity, Think of this,
Do you make or repair cues
Do you tie up thousands of dollars in stock
Do you measure the waste
Do you measure what sits on the shelf, so when customers need something, you have it.
It is standard business to price items based on results and demand.
It's called business and the right to make a living.

Do you have a job?
Do you make more than minimum wage.
Why?
You don't need to answer but you do need to understand, Everyone thinks because we're in the billiard industry, it's different from other business.
The only difference is we try to explain it to you,
Try that when you go food shopping and you want Porterhouse instead of London broil for the same price.
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TAP TAP TAP !!!

I started to reply to Shorty's post, but it pissed me off so much I decided I'd better not! If he ever asks me to put on one of his tips, I'll glue it to his forehead!


just more hot air!

Sherm
 
Michael Webb said:
Before you respond with total negativity, Think of this,
Do you make or repair cues
Do you tie up thousands of dollars in stock
Do you measure the waste
Do you measure what sits on the shelf, so when customers need something, you have it.
It is standard business to price items based on results and demand.
It's called business and the right to make a living.

Do you have a job?
Do you make more than minimum wage.
Why?
You don't need to answer but you do need to understand, Everyone thinks because we're in the billiard industry, it's different from other business.
The only difference is we try to explain it to you,
Try that when you go food shopping and you want Porterhouse instead of London broil for the same price.
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Just for the record...yes...I do have a job. I am a disabled person with a JOB. I know...hard to imagine that. I make 68k a year...and I feed a family of four with 8 pets as well. I own a nice home, and I know the price of london broil and tuna fish as well...but this is a hobby to me. Pool is not a means to make a living, like I suppose it is for you cuemakers and repairmen. Just I find it hard to swallow me handing a guy 50 bucks for 20 minutes of work. Ya know? I know he can use the money...I understand that...and I gladly pay repairmen to fix my AC or a plumber for my clogged sink. But being a disabled person, I encounter a TON of people that try to rip me off. For instance, when I was 9 my electric wheechair needed new belts. One had broken and another was frayed pretty badly. They wanted 70 dollars for a pair of belts. Keep in mind this was 1980. My dad goes down to the car parts store, NAPA, and picks up literally the identical belt...and it cost 4 bucks for the pair. So ya see, I get a bad taste in my mouth when someone is trying to take advantage of me...I know you gotta put food on the table just like I do, and I don't have a problem with that. I just ask you put in the same honest day of work that I do to get that dollar.

Nothing negative taken or given that I can see here...just a friendly debate.

Shorty
 
Shorty said:
Cause cuemakers and repair guys like to rip people off...

Here is the scoop...you can buy Moori's cheap, 10 bucks or less just about anywhere. They are really no harder to put on than any other tip...but because they are so popular, the cuemakers and repair guys decided, hey...let me capitalize on this and charge more for the tip...make it seem like a premium. I can't blame them at all...but when a guy starts charging 50 bucks to put a Moori on a cue...I get a little PO'd. And yes, I have seen guys charge this much.

What I do is buy my own tips...and just ask the repair guy, how much to put a tip on if I supply the tip? He usually will say 7-10 bucks...then I hand him the Moori and have him do it. The look of disappointment on his face is a dead giveaway. I have done this SEVERAL times with SEVERAL different repair guys, and they all give me the "damn I should of said more" look.

Does anybody do anything in pool without trying to screw someone out of a buck these days?

Shorty
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Does the cue repairman hold a gun to customers' heads and force them to pay $50?

Jeff Livingston
 
Michael Webb said:
Before you respond with total negativity, Think of this,
Do you make or repair cues
Do you tie up thousands of dollars in stock
Do you measure the waste
Do you measure what sits on the shelf, so when customers need something, you have it.
It is standard business to price items based on results and demand.
It's called business and the right to make a living.

Do you have a job?
Do you make more than minimum wage.
Why?
You don't need to answer but you do need to understand, Everyone thinks because we're in the billiard industry, it's different from other business.
The only difference is we try to explain it to you,
Try that when you go food shopping and you want Porterhouse instead of London broil for the same price.
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You're supposed to make a living not a killing.... $50 a tip is insane
 
Tokyo-dave said:
I get them at cost directly from Mr. Moori himself in cans of 50, and they are more than $3 a piece even here in Japan. Taking into consideration shipping costs, I have a hard time believing that anybody can sell them for $3 a piece stateside and still make a profit. I'm not saying your friend couldn't have paid only $3 a piece for them, but if he did, somebody was dumping old stock at a loss.
dave
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I thought Mr. Moori had died a couple years ago and now the tips were being mass produced and that's why the price came down so far in the last couple of years. If I can recall correctly, I think I got that info right here on this board.
 
Shorty said:
Just for the record...yes...I do have a job. I am a disabled person with a JOB. I know...hard to imagine that...
Shorty
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Shorty,
I think you missed the point of Mikes "Do you have a job?" question. He was not taking a shot at you're being a physically challenged individual or assuming a physically challenged individual couldn't have a good job. He was making the point I believe that you work hard and get paid fairly for it, he works hard and wants to get paid fairly for it. My father had a wholesale meat business when I was a kid, I can assure you being self-employed is a "hard-scrabble" life. I don't know what Mike or any other cuemakers makes, but my guess is if you figured out what they make PER HOUR you wouldn't be thinking they're ripping anybody off. I know the kind of hours Mike puts in to make a living, they are long, very long.
I understand your sensitivity about the issue, I'm sure some people in all different trades see the wheelchair and think they can take advantage. However, don't forget the people trying to rip you off would try to rip me off too given the chance and most people won't try to ripoff either one of us.
 
EL'nino said:
You're supposed to make a living not a killing.... $50 a tip is insane
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Valid point, BUT
No one said you have to pay that price.
You always have the choice.
The local gas station wanted $250.00 to do the breaks, back and front on my truck. I taught him some new words. Did the job myself, 2 hours and changed the rotors two for $60.00 in parts. His only answer was, Not every one can do that work. I thought about it, then I started laughing because I knew he was right.
Pro's and cons to every choice

And Shorty,
I would never charge you more because of your situation but I would consider charging you more because of your actions and responces on this forum.
Think about it!
 
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