$30,000 Ring Game
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Thanks to Greg too
Yea, I knew Greg was involved too Grady and my thanks go out to him too. You guys have started a snowball that won't be stopped.
The computer program RH wrote worked absolutely flawlessly. Everyone loved it, players and fans.
Had someone hung the lable, "Professor" on Greg, I would have titled the thread, The Three Professors.
My apologies to Greg for not giving him the credit he deserves as well.
I can't wait till you and Greg's $30,000 ring game. Like Roy Schider said in the movie "Jaws" We're going to need a bigger boat. Where ever you and Greg hold this thing, you're going to need a bigger place..........$Bill
Yea, I knew Greg was involved too Grady and my thanks go out to him too. You guys have started a snowball that won't be stopped.
The computer program RH wrote worked absolutely flawlessly. Everyone loved it, players and fans.
Had someone hung the lable, "Professor" on Greg, I would have titled the thread, The Three Professors.
My apologies to Greg for not giving him the credit he deserves as well.
I can't wait till you and Greg's $30,000 ring game. Like Roy Schider said in the movie "Jaws" We're going to need a bigger boat. Where ever you and Greg hold this thing, you're going to need a bigger place..........$Bill
I'm kind of surprised that no one has mentioned or remembers the "King of the Ring" that happened about 20-25 years ago.
It was advertised in the Billiard News so Conrad Burkman would be able to pull up the old flyer on it.
I'm positive Jimmy Reid was in it but can't remember who else. Just bringing it up because it has been done before and everybody loves watching a ring game because it's ALL offense.
Has anyone got with R H about setting up his program at Derby City????
With all the people that would be sweating it there it would make sense to be able to have something on a big screen so the peanut galley knows what's going on and not buggin everyone trying to find out how who stands where.
Steve
P.S. Hey Grady, you doing O.K.?? You still hot at me?
It was advertised in the Billiard News so Conrad Burkman would be able to pull up the old flyer on it.
I'm positive Jimmy Reid was in it but can't remember who else. Just bringing it up because it has been done before and everybody loves watching a ring game because it's ALL offense.
Has anyone got with R H about setting up his program at Derby City????
With all the people that would be sweating it there it would make sense to be able to have something on a big screen so the peanut galley knows what's going on and not buggin everyone trying to find out how who stands where.
Steve
P.S. Hey Grady, you doing O.K.?? You still hot at me?
Thanks Grady, that's what I thought but haven't seen you lately. You know I've always felt that about you too, you've always stood by your word even when it cost you.
I wish something would take off with pool and hope if and when something did, you'll be involved cause I know how hard you've always tried to do something and don't quit even when you end up getting screwed on it. Most people would have thrown up their hands a long long time ago if they went through some of the things you have, you definately have big macadamias.
Anyway.............the ring game is real exciting and I'll bet it's a real hit with the sweators, you never know it might be a great tournament format....especially for T.V.
It's the kind of thing that they want, guys shooting to win, running out and players getting eliminated.
Think about the tournament part I just mentioned if you already haven't. You can imagine how many regular players would enter just to be part of a group of champions playing a ring game. Not as embarassing to lose and jaw jackin with a few players to boot.
You just never know what's going to happen to pool but I know somethings got to CHANGE, if the same stuff hasn't been working then it's time to do something different.
Steve
P.S. I'll PM you about some stuff
I wish something would take off with pool and hope if and when something did, you'll be involved cause I know how hard you've always tried to do something and don't quit even when you end up getting screwed on it. Most people would have thrown up their hands a long long time ago if they went through some of the things you have, you definately have big macadamias.
Anyway.............the ring game is real exciting and I'll bet it's a real hit with the sweators, you never know it might be a great tournament format....especially for T.V.
It's the kind of thing that they want, guys shooting to win, running out and players getting eliminated.
Think about the tournament part I just mentioned if you already haven't. You can imagine how many regular players would enter just to be part of a group of champions playing a ring game. Not as embarassing to lose and jaw jackin with a few players to boot.
You just never know what's going to happen to pool but I know somethings got to CHANGE, if the same stuff hasn't been working then it's time to do something different.
Steve
P.S. I'll PM you about some stuff
Ring-Game Tournaments: Then and Now
Steve you are correct about the "King of the Ring" and that Jimmy Reid was in it. In fact I thought he won it, not sure though. He was invited to play in the Ring-Game held at Southern Billiards on October 25, 2003, and accepted. I thought it was great that he was going to be in it, since this would tie the present back to the past. However, to his and my regret, he had to withdraw due to personal and family commitments.
The thing that I believe was different about the Ring-Game tournament idea of Grady and Greg's, and used in the one held here and the one that will be held at the Derby City Classic, is the progressive nature of the bet. The scheme that I worked out for the one here worked well, plus the "All-In" provision I put in at the end provided a finality to the game and seemed to add to the excitement as the final players approached the 100 game mark, at which point the bet would have been raised to "All-In". Although they never reached 100 games, the wager being $1,000 per game at the end was pretty exciting.
You are right though that Ring-Game tournaments have been done before; what Grady and Greg added was the progress increase of the bet; the scheme for increasing the bet and the "All-In" provision at the end I took from the televised Texas Hold'em Poker tournaments; and the software for the computer program was provided by Microsoft, I just told it what I wanted it to do. Thus, all I did was to set one up and hold it, and it was great!
What made it work? Without a doubt, it was the seven players that played in it; the talents they brought to the table; and their outstanding display of sportsmanship. I have never seen a group of players play for so long, for so much, and behave in a more professional and courteous manner, than the group that gathered at Southern Billiards on October 25, 2003, composed of: Bobby Pickle; Buster Merchant; Danny Basavich; Jamie Ferrall; John D. Hager; John Macias; and Jonathan Hennessee. Gentlemen my hat is off to you. Prof. R H Gilmer
stevelomako said:
Steve you are correct about the "King of the Ring" and that Jimmy Reid was in it. In fact I thought he won it, not sure though. He was invited to play in the Ring-Game held at Southern Billiards on October 25, 2003, and accepted. I thought it was great that he was going to be in it, since this would tie the present back to the past. However, to his and my regret, he had to withdraw due to personal and family commitments.
The thing that I believe was different about the Ring-Game tournament idea of Grady and Greg's, and used in the one held here and the one that will be held at the Derby City Classic, is the progressive nature of the bet. The scheme that I worked out for the one here worked well, plus the "All-In" provision I put in at the end provided a finality to the game and seemed to add to the excitement as the final players approached the 100 game mark, at which point the bet would have been raised to "All-In". Although they never reached 100 games, the wager being $1,000 per game at the end was pretty exciting.
You are right though that Ring-Game tournaments have been done before; what Grady and Greg added was the progress increase of the bet; the scheme for increasing the bet and the "All-In" provision at the end I took from the televised Texas Hold'em Poker tournaments; and the software for the computer program was provided by Microsoft, I just told it what I wanted it to do. Thus, all I did was to set one up and hold it, and it was great!
What made it work? Without a doubt, it was the seven players that played in it; the talents they brought to the table; and their outstanding display of sportsmanship. I have never seen a group of players play for so long, for so much, and behave in a more professional and courteous manner, than the group that gathered at Southern Billiards on October 25, 2003, composed of: Bobby Pickle; Buster Merchant; Danny Basavich; Jamie Ferrall; John D. Hager; John Macias; and Jonathan Hennessee. Gentlemen my hat is off to you. Prof. R H Gilmer
Professor Gilmer,
Everything I heard about the ring game and your program set-up was very positive. Don't sell yourself short on taking credit for setting up the software, even with things available......people still have to do them and sounds like you did a great job.
I just know the way pool has been for sooo long (other than bar leagues) something has to change to make it exciting so there could be some kind of T.V. coverage other than the weak crumbs on the plate now. You know the old saying......."if it aint broke don't fix it".........well, Professional Pool has been broken for a long time and people keep trying the same old ideas that didn't work before.
The idea that Grady and Greg came up with about the progressive betting was excellent because there will be an ending to it. The thing about ring-games thats nice is people can root for who they like without offending the other players and having them take it personally. I think you know what I mean.....in a one on one match-up when people start rooting for one guy the other player feels like they are also pulling against him.....then you start getting the bad feelings and all the other garbage cause they take it personally.
Definately more hootin and hollering in a ring-game because people are pulling for someone in particular to play good, not for someone else to play bad. Unless they have a long straight in on the nine, oops I mean ten in this case and you're following them............then you kinda want them to rattle it.
Steve
Everything I heard about the ring game and your program set-up was very positive. Don't sell yourself short on taking credit for setting up the software, even with things available......people still have to do them and sounds like you did a great job.
I just know the way pool has been for sooo long (other than bar leagues) something has to change to make it exciting so there could be some kind of T.V. coverage other than the weak crumbs on the plate now. You know the old saying......."if it aint broke don't fix it".........well, Professional Pool has been broken for a long time and people keep trying the same old ideas that didn't work before.
The idea that Grady and Greg came up with about the progressive betting was excellent because there will be an ending to it. The thing about ring-games thats nice is people can root for who they like without offending the other players and having them take it personally. I think you know what I mean.....in a one on one match-up when people start rooting for one guy the other player feels like they are also pulling against him.....then you start getting the bad feelings and all the other garbage cause they take it personally.
Definately more hootin and hollering in a ring-game because people are pulling for someone in particular to play good, not for someone else to play bad. Unless they have a long straight in on the nine, oops I mean ten in this case and you're following them............then you kinda want them to rattle it.
Steve
I had to come back and add something about Grady............
I've known him awhile and I know he takes alot of knocks at times from people............but there is NO ONE, and I mean absolutely NO ONE that has tried to do as much as he has for so long and he just won't quit.
I really hope if things start to go good, he's involved cause he definately loves pool alot to keep trying as long as he has with the ups and downs he's been through.
PLUS, he's so damn good looking you just have to pull for him.
Steve
I've known him awhile and I know he takes alot of knocks at times from people............but there is NO ONE, and I mean absolutely NO ONE that has tried to do as much as he has for so long and he just won't quit.
I really hope if things start to go good, he's involved cause he definately loves pool alot to keep trying as long as he has with the ups and downs he's been through.
PLUS, he's so damn good looking you just have to pull for him.
Steve
I just wish Grady and Pat Fleming would come together again. I heard that Billy refuses to work with Grady. But Billy should let bygones be bygones. I have seen Grady do things like buy Billy in the Calcutta when no one else wanted to just out of friendship. Have you guys seen who Pat has commentating on 2003 US Open?!! Jim Wych and Jerry Forsyth!! I mean come on. They might be nice guys but Grady could spot them 2 microphones and the eight. Hope he'll let Grady do the Derby Classic. I know Diliberto and he would make a great team!