Who can tell me, in accordance with the link provided, how the Tennessee gambling law would affect the participation of two individuals in a set of 9 ball for financial enhancement?
Any Lawyer's out there?
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I'm not a lawyer, but it's para-mutual gambling - the equivalent of a home poker game. I don't think it's illegal. As long as the poolhall isn't cutting the action.
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ScottW said:Um.... what link?
Ummmm yeah. About that link.
Sorry
http://www.whiteknightblackjack.com/Law/Tennessee/Tennessee_gambling_law.htm
As your attorney.......
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It appears to me that the law is vague.I do not know whether they intentionally made the law to be Vague so that they can harass their political opponents or not.
If the local sheriff does not like you,he can arrest you and charge you for violating the gamblings laws of the state of Tennessee.
If the local sheriff does not like you,he can arrest you and charge you for violating the gamblings laws of the state of Tennessee.
Tennessee State Code:
39-17-503.
(a) A person commits an offense who knowingly induces or aids another to engage in gambling, and:
(1) Intends to derive or derives an economic benefit other than personal winnings from the gambling; or
(2) Participates in the gambling and has, other than by virtue of skill or luck, a lesser risk of losing or greater chance of winning than one (1) or more of the other participants.
(b) The offense of gambling promotion is a Class B misdemeanor.
It's legal to gamble on pool as long as you aren't giving him a weighted ball to shoot with It is also out-lined here that it is illegal for a venue to make money off of your gambling... basically the only stipulations.
39-17-503.
(a) A person commits an offense who knowingly induces or aids another to engage in gambling, and:
(1) Intends to derive or derives an economic benefit other than personal winnings from the gambling; or
(2) Participates in the gambling and has, other than by virtue of skill or luck, a lesser risk of losing or greater chance of winning than one (1) or more of the other participants.
(b) The offense of gambling promotion is a Class B misdemeanor.
It's legal to gamble on pool as long as you aren't giving him a weighted ball to shoot with
It is also out-lined here that it is illegal for a venue to make money off of your gambling... basically the only stipulations.
Yokel said:Tennessee State Code:
39-17-503.
(a) A person commits an offense who knowingly induces or aids another to engage in gambling, and:
(1) Intends to derive or derives an economic benefit other than personal winnings from the gambling; or
(2) Participates in the gambling and has, other than by virtue of skill or luck, a lesser risk of losing or greater chance of winning than one (1) or more of the other participants.
(b) The offense of gambling promotion is a Class B misdemeanor.
It's legal to gamble on pool as long as you aren't giving him a weighted ball to shoot with
Does this mean that a calcutta is illegal?
Tennesseejoe said:
I must not be up on the lingo yet
what is a calcutta?I can tell you stakehorses that want a % of your winnings are illegal, venues that take a part off the purse are illegal, and any kind of machine that has less than a 50/50 chance of winning are illegal, unless the machine is state-owned, and a certain % of the money is used for purposes helping the people (usually schools).
Yokel said:
Even if one makes advances at the local sheriff`s mistress? It is good to know that I will not be arrested for playing for money.
I thought the law did not include pool in the exceptions.Pool could ,by some , can be seen as a game of chance.Game of chance will be condsidered gambling according to the Laws in Tennessee
Cheers to Tennessee.
vagabond said:
Yeah TN has it's perks
I wouldn't ever expect "game of chance" to hold up in court though, and I would literally laugh at trial at the prosecutor who brought it up. The only defense you need in that situation is to show the past 15 years of proffesional billiards. You wouldn't see the same 20 names winning every event if it were a game of chance, and I don't know of any chance game that is considered a professional sport.
There are professional games that involve more luck than others (poker, which is usually considered a "sport" in most places now, as well as a gambling game), but billiards would be easy to prove as a skill game.
When I had my poolrooms in Indiana, I checked on running tournaments and poker games. Pool is considered a game of skill. If the 2 players are the only ones betting, it's not illegal. If a stakehorse or any outside individual is passing money or betting on the game, it is gambling. I was told I could have a poker game, but the house may not take a cut or at that time charge for a seat. That law has changed I believe due to all the poker craze.
As far as the pool goes, I guess it's who you have mad at you. If the room owner is charging table time, maybe they could bust the game. If its a calcutta, those are illegal. You are betting on another persons skills.
That's my take on all that stupid crap with the laws. They're preparing to close any bar that runs a board so their patrons can gamble on Nascar, Baseball, football, or anything else,{including pull tabs} here in Muncie. But the horse track, 20 miles from us is getting a couple hundred slot machines, we have lotto and state run pull tabs and riverboats. But gambling is illegal. The bar owners don't even make anything off the boards. I hate politicians.
Sorry, I'm a little irritated. I have several friends in the bar business.
As far as the pool goes, I guess it's who you have mad at you. If the room owner is charging table time, maybe they could bust the game. If its a calcutta, those are illegal. You are betting on another persons skills.
That's my take on all that stupid crap with the laws. They're preparing to close any bar that runs a board so their patrons can gamble on Nascar, Baseball, football, or anything else,{including pull tabs} here in Muncie. But the horse track, 20 miles from us is getting a couple hundred slot machines, we have lotto and state run pull tabs and riverboats. But gambling is illegal. The bar owners don't even make anything off the boards. I hate politicians.
Sorry, I'm a little irritated. I have several friends in the bar business.
Harry Platis went to court and won, proving that pool is a skill, and not gambling. Thus, wagers placed on the outcome of the game/set/match are based on skill (however deluded ). However, side bettors (or any non-participant) are not allowed to bet.
Calcuttas are illegal, player auctions may not be. Semantics to be sure, but there may be a legal distinction.
). However, side bettors (or any non-participant) are not allowed to bet.Calcuttas are illegal, player auctions may not be. Semantics to be sure, but there may be a legal distinction.
Cuaba said:
Do what I would do in any situation except murder... represent yourself. You have to remember when dealing with PDs... they know the judge on a first-name basis and the outcome of your case is usually decided on alot more than just "the facts".