Anyone interested in Fantasy Pool

DEAD MONEY G

DEAD MONEY G

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Fantasy baseball and football are huge.I was thinking why cant we do fantasy pool?Since there is no real tour i was thinking we can have a draft before each big event.We can do a snake draft or an auction draft. Either way you draft players and each guy on your team will earn you points.I havent figured out the exact points for each win but i was just seeing who was interested i was thinking we could get 10 teams either 50 or $100 a team and pay 1st and 2nd place.The draft would be online in a chat room anyone interested let me know.Or if you have ideas i would like to hear them thanks
 
You have to get the rules real tight and totally figured out for me to post up a 100 bones ....

if you can do it then I might be down...

Might want to have a few test runs before folks post cash in it... jsut to make sure there arent any bugs in the point system
 
Yeah I signed up for fantasy 9 ball once, I saw an add for it on a billiard supply website, so maybe you can get it going, I dont know what their format for it was, maybe you could google it and see if its still around.
 
RunoutalloverU said:
Yeah I signed up for fantasy 9 ball once, I saw an add for it on a billiard supply website, so maybe you can get it going, I dont know what their format for it was, maybe you could google it and see if its still around.
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i remember that this would be totally different
 
Just to let you know... look at the player points score in a Billiards Digest and that should give you a good idea. I will email you an excel spreadsheet of something very similar if you like.

I'm in if you do it. Consider whether to allow trades or free agent pick-ups as well. I would also say only allow each fantasy coach to play a limited number of players during each event, this way a player with 8 players at a particular event would not have as big an advantage if no one from another team was at the event.
 
iba7467 said:
Just to let you know... look at the player points score in a Billiards Digest and that should give you a good idea. I will email you an excel spreadsheet of something very similar if you like.

I'm in if you do it. Consider whether to allow trades or free agent pick-ups as well. I would also say only allow each fantasy coach to play a limited number of players during each event, this way a player with 8 players at a particular event would not have as big an advantage if no one from another team was at the event.
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i was thinking of doing a draft before each tourney since it is so hard to figure out who will be at each event that way we hve action at each tourney and more people will win $ my email is nygmen7575@yahoo.com if you want to email me thank you My biggest problem is how to hold the draft any ideas? i was thinking in a chatroom somewhere
 
There is a chatroom right here on AZBIlliards thats empty most of the time. Johnnyt
 
Brady Behrman created fantasy9ball.com a few years back. I won some really decent prizes and was the front runner for the grand prize...a Diamond table. Needless to say it never panned out and I was an unhappy camper.
That being said I did win a Joss cue, Instroke case, and several smaller prizes. Cool idea, just make sure if you do it you follow through. I still harbor some ill-will over that.

Regards,
Koop - has the room for a Diamond table :(

P.S. I could you give you the gist of it if you want in a PM.
P.P.S. I think the problem Brady had was making the fee too small. I give him credit for trying though.
 
Probably the best way to do it is like Fantasy Golf on Yahoo. Since all of the players aren't going to be playing all of the time, it's tough to build a team and not get screwed by certain players not playing. The way Fantasy Golf runs is you have to pick a team from a tournament pool for that weekend. Based on the players you select for that tournament is how you perform. To prevent everyone from picking Tiger all of the time, who doesn't play every weekend anyhow, you are limited on the number of times you can pick that player. For 40+ weeks of golf, you can pick a player 10 times. After 10 uses are up, you can no longer pick that player for the rest of the season.

It is okay for multiple teams to have the same pleyers. If you make the team large enough, say something like 5 pros on a team, then there is generally enough randomness between the fantasy teams.

The catch is the men's tour is not very well organized so I don't know how easy it is to determine ahead of time who is playing and who's not. I haven't paid attention to how far in advance AZ posts the brackets or the players list.

Fantasy football is a different beast on there's not really any other sport that can be run like it. Football has a large pool of players to pick from that you know are going to play each week except for injuries and bye weeks.

Fantasy pool would probably make more sense like the golf league I mentioned or maybe like a roto setup such as in baseball. The roto setup would be cool if stats could be easily tracked. Good luck on that though.
 
I like the idea but I also think an online calcutta would be cool too. Think if the tournament directors had an online calcutta before the real one at tournaments. Someone like Jay could run it here and take the normal 10% off the top and I think it'd be really cool.
 
ccshrimper said:
I like the idea but I also think an online calcutta would be cool too. Think if the tournament directors had an online calcutta before the real one at tournaments. Someone like Jay could run it here and take the normal 10% off the top and I think it'd be really cool.
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That is rather complicated and finding a proper time would be a problem. I have tried before to run a parimutual but no one wanted to wager.

Parimutuals run like this...

All bettors PM the director and send via PayPal or whatever any amount they choose and they pick their player. You may pick any player you want, this works best with ring games where there are limited options.

The payout is relative to the total amount wagered against the total amount wagered on the winner. Example $1,000 total bet with $100 bet on the winner means the winners get 9 for 1 on their bet.

Each winner's payout is determined by the percent of the amount bet on the winner. Example Bettor A has $50 on winner, Bettor B has $40 on winner, and Bettor C has $10 on winner. Each of these bettors gets paid on the amount they bet, meaning that they all picked the winner, but Bettor A will recieve half the pot as he bet as much as the other two combined.

This type of betting allows more people to wager than just one bet per player.

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To ensure fairness, after all bets are collected the bettors names and totals would be either posted or emailed to all involved so they can confirm that no money was scammed. After the event the winner is paid in "for" odds or less director's fee.
 
That sounds pretty cool. What happens if I bid $10 on a shortstop and nobody else bids on him and he pulls it off? In a calcutta at least everyone would have a chance to bid on all players if they want.
 
ccshrimper said:
That sounds pretty cool. What happens if I bid $10 on a shortstop and nobody else bids on him and he pulls it off? In a calcutta at least everyone would have a chance to bid on all players if they want.
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You would win it all. That is the reward for taking the long shot. This is the same as in a horse race. You are correct that in a large field this could very well happen that no one selected the winner. We could add a field option that would include all players not selected. This is basically the way the vBookie for Turning Stone works, but the odds would be determined by the wagers. It actually works very well. All DCC ring games are bet this way.
 
im in

I thought my freinds where nuts for being sooo into the fantasy baseball and football leagues, they think im nuts for being so into pool, now ill never here the end of it. But what the hell. If its done right it sounds cool. Count me in
 
If Dead Money G doesn't come up with something, I will run one. Actually, not to slight you G, but you are a new poster for people to be posting up $1000 with you. I am not trying to step on your toes, but I believe most wouldn't feel comfortable. I'd be glad to escrow or run it or help out. I like the idea. Regardless, I think we should do it.
 
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Proposed rules

1. Rotate the pick order in the draft. Must determine a set of tournaments that allows each "team owner" to have equal opportunity to pick in each position in the "draft"

2. New draft each tournament.

3. Only widely recognized tournaments that draw solid competitors (no regional events with one or two pros and all other locals)

4. Money must be posted by "team owners" prior to the first tournament

5. Payout to 1/4 of the field (8 = 1 and 2, 16 = 1-4)

6. Event finishes and team standings must be public after each event.

7. To keep the arguments to a minimum all tournaments regardless of size carry the same weight (this is fair since there is new draft each tournament)

8. Keep draft simple, say 2 players per "team owner" for each tournament.

9. Drafts must be held live in the chat area with the league moderator controlling at a set time for all "team owners".

10. Each team owner must be present at the draft. Those not present for the draft will receive two picks in alphabetical order from the remaining field (this at least gives them something to sweat later)

Any other opinions? Do these rules seem OK?
 
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