Being a driver attached to motor, are they IP rated
Best "Affordable" 4th Axis
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Being a driver attached to motor, are they IP rated
LOL! Yeah Thomas are they?
This thread needs to be called Cnctwilightzone
George your an entertaining fella
Yes i am Thanks , but it is the most important thing to have asked about before buying them
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George, I am curious at to what you mean by IP rated. I must admit I am a bit confused. Please enlighten me?
Jim.
Looks Clearpath motors are working well for DZ.
He made a camera mount and George shared the video at FB.
He made a camera mount and George shared the video at FB.
The reason I started this thread was to get an opinion from all of the knowledgeable cuemakers on what the best 4th axis under 1k was. I figured between Custom Cue Manufacturers, Master Cue Makers, CNC Wizards, and CNC Machine Manufacturers I would have an awesome response. It has degraded into a pissing match. This thread is a classic example of why I don't come to AZ that much anymore.
He could be talking about "Ingress Protection" , in which case they meet or exceed anything I've ever seen in a stepper or servo motor.
Or he could be talking about "Intellectual Property" protection, in which case I can't imagine why he would care, since China routinely ignores such things.
Or he could be talking about "Internet Protocol" protection, in which case Clearpath motors themselves do not have personal access to the internet, so...
Or it could just be more of the minced-English gobbledygook he's been spewing since this thread started.
But MOST importantly, for a guy who has declared that Clearpath motors are NOT suitable for CNC applications, he sure doesn't seem to know very much about them.
TW
Steve,
Glad you found your set up. I am looking for one too. After you are up and running please post a review of your experience. I am sure a lot of people would like to know especially from you and your experience with CNC work. Good luck with 4 th axis designs. I look forward to seeing your future offerings.
Even though there is some pissing going on, there is some very good info coming to the forum.
Royce was right about IP. It is about levels of foreign material exclusion.
TW, Royce, Jake, George, Jim and others could keep their knowledge and experience close to the vest. The fact that they are airing out some opinions is helpful to many of us that are finding our way stepping up to 4th axis work. Like everything else one must weigh options and make a decision.
Jake and TW are obviously sold on clearpath but I did not hear them ever mention that the leadshine products could not do a good job concerning the 4th axis machining of cues concerning that type of work?????
IP65 Enclosure - IP rated as "dust tight" and protected against water projected from a nozzle.
IP66 Enclosure - IP rated as "dust tight" and protected against heavy seas or powerful jets of water.
IP 67 Enclosures - IP rated as "dust tight" and protected against immersion.
IP 68 Enclosures - IP rated as "dust tight" and protected against complete, continuous submersion in water.
Good cue making and be safe out there,
Rick
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Hi Joey, yes and what a great job here does with his talents.
Everything he does looks so clean and truly professional.
Sorry i don't know your name, but i don't think you will find anything better or cheaper than the HD 4th axis you ordered.
Hello Sir Wayne. IP rating is for the person protection. Sorry i thought you would know that from machine upgrades you do .
With out it they are just clean environment use only. Would not be used by industrial applications with dust , moisture or alot of other stuff
Open end Molex connectors, on plasma or mill with coolant would be very bad out come. With out integrated driver that would not be a problem.
Cutting Carbon fiber will destroy everything electrical.
If they were IP rated they would have had one of the main things on their site they would talk about .
Any industrial would want IP rating so they no chance of fire from dust , shock from moisture and other thing. They just would not want to void their insurance use a product in wrong environment.
George,
I have gone on the Clearpath website and there is no mention of an IP rating at all.
I also entered IP Motor Rating in the search function there and it came up zero.
This alone does not mean they are not IP rated so as not to jump to conclusions, I will call them today as I really want to know. Also cue maker don't use water and the motor seal is doubtless very adequate to seal dust if all these guys are using it.
As I said this has been a very interesting thread and I wish to know all of the significant details for sure.
Thanks for all your info,
Rick
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Hi Rick, how are you .
It truly is for a person safety.
Leadshine also sells integrated Servo motor. I have tried to order them for some people. But once Leadshine ask and its not clean environment to tell customer it is a bad choice because no IP rating on them.
As for 4th axis, i don't really know , maybe Clearpath as be easier to remove off table than having an open driver after. As far as difference in turning i could not tell.But dont think there would be a difference
You will not get IP rating from what i have been told with open end Molex connector When i was looking to get a product made that had power
Hi Sir Wayne, i am relying on your expertise.
I have 10 pitch ballscrew and want to cut with full torque around 900 oz-in at 550 ipm.
Could you please tell me what Clearpath you think i would need .
Most of the stuff posted about is very light duty.
To match same cutting in video cutting 3/4 in one pass .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-gvawgFqs0
I have 10 pitch ballscrew and want to cut with full torque around 900 oz-in at 550 ipm.
Could you please tell me what Clearpath you think i would need .
Most of the stuff posted about is very light duty.
To match same cutting in video cutting 3/4 in one pass .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-gvawgFqs0
George, I am not Mr. Wayne, but was wondering why you would need such strong motors? All of the work is getting done with the large cutter and large and fast spindle. I would guess that those motors are over-sized. Not that it is a bad thing. Are they nema 34 motors? Looks like you need a motor that will be running at 2,794 rpm.
This motor should have no problem doing the task:
https://www.teknic.com/model-info/CPM-SDHP-3441D-ELN/
But it is still over doing the job. When selecting these motors rpm does become important. Buy the way with a 6,400 pulse coder that would give you roughly 32,512 pulses per inch or resolution of .00003076" as your smalles possible step. The machine would be way better off with a 10mm pitch ballscrew. Who ever ordered them machine did not do their homework. I think the pitch is too fine. If they had gone 10mm they could have easily been able to do 1,000 ipm. LOL.
Jim.
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