Oh Dennis would play Shane McMinn -- who this CueSports (not to be confused with CueSportsInternational or CSI......see what he did there) wants to put in the box.
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Oh Dennis would play Shane McMinn -- who this CueSports (not to be confused with CueSportsInternational or CSI......see what he did there) wants to put in the box.
uhhhh - no you can't. This is a private business. You can't just record anyone or anything. Try doing it at a concert or a play or a movie theatre or a ton of other examples where it is not permitted and spout off your Cheerios Box gained attorney degree and see what happens.
And the real competition here is this -- Ray and his desire to continue to do PPV and Erica and her desire to own a hosting site where people can post their pool videos. She needs 'the views' to give herself credibility. Unfortunately, she is trying to accomplish this with a godaddy hosted webpage and equipment that is simply substandard.
That's not entirely true...
Otherwise, you wouldn't see people's images blurred out or people on radio announcing to people they call that they are being broadcast.
Nor would you see people being asked for permission to air them on television. It is not an unlimited free for all in public.
Jaden
Otherwise, you wouldn't see people's images blurred out or people on radio announcing to people they call that they are being broadcast.
Nor would you see people being asked for permission to air them on television. It is not an unlimited free for all in public.
Jaden
You scheduled that on top of the US Open 10 Ball (Bar Table) Championship PPV? The sh!t is going to hit the fan now :lmao:
Re Big Truck..
Hey Lendon..Not just because you're my bud, but I have never known you to make unfair accusations on any subject!..I had no idea you had some bad dealings with Big Truck..I had not thought of him that way, and have bought several of his streams in the past. (which by the way, I thought were usually overpriced)
I have had no problem with him trying to show a profit, but if (according to you) he has done so with a lot of shady, unfair practices, it will certainly effect my future dealings with him..You and Daniel,(POV) and Al, have always been above all the petty crap, which is a rare thing in the pool racket!..
As you know, I have always tried to get you to not give away all your hard work, but you are doing it the way you want to..Good luck in the future, and you know you will always have my business, even if you eventually have to charge a fair price for it!.
Hey Lendon..Not just because you're my bud, but I have never known you to make unfair accusations on any subject!..I had no idea you had some bad dealings with Big Truck..I had not thought of him that way, and have bought several of his streams in the past. (which by the way, I thought were usually overpriced)
I have had no problem with him trying to show a profit, but if (according to you) he has done so with a lot of shady, unfair practices, it will certainly effect my future dealings with him..You and Daniel,(POV) and Al, have always been above all the petty crap, which is a rare thing in the pool racket!..
As you know, I have always tried to get you to not give away all your hard work, but you are doing it the way you want to..Good luck in the future, and you know you will always have my business, even if you eventually have to charge a fair price for it!.
I'll see Shane tonight and ask him the details and hopefully we can get a game set up. I'll stake Shane in my pool room if he likes the game and tells me it's fair for like 5-10k. Obviously if you say he's been asking Oscar to play, he likes it. Don't even know what they discussed.
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GREAT JOB ****king up the pool industry with more BULLSHIT!!
We can't have anything nice because of greed.
I'm betting this kind of BS that goes on makes ppl like Mark Griffin and Greg Sullivan very sick.<~ no wonder they can't get any big names to sponser pool/billiards.
Plz ppl!!! quit ****king up pool/billiards!!! Do something positive and put away the bullshit and be a positive minded being.
Rob.M
GREAT JOB ****king up the pool industry with more BULLSHIT!!
We can't have anything nice because of greed.
I'm betting this kind of BS that goes on makes ppl like Mark Griffin and Greg Sullivan very sick.<~ no wonder they can't get any big names to sponser pool/billiards.
Plz ppl!!! quit ****king up pool/billiards!!! Do something positive and put away the bullshit and be a positive minded being.
Rob.M
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justinb386
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Yeah, it really does not make any sense to me on why a pool room owner would be paying the streamer and any of the streamers expenses.
It makes much more sense to have a free streamer (like Erica) to do an event (with the pool room getting much more exposure).
justinb386
Banned
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Why would Ray (Big Truck) have cared that Erica was doing a free stream, if it is known that his streams are of much higher quality? The guys that are willing to pay are still going to pay to see the much higher quality stream.
justinb386
Banned
Well, there are many people that love watching the pro players play, and are willing to pay to see certain matches (or tournaments, based on the player list), if they are unable to be there in person.
Seems pretty obvious in the video that the only time Ray touched the phone was when it was streaming the only table that he asked her not to stream. Ray even says go stream any other table but mine, buffalos has something like 30 tables? Seems pretty easy to do
I was already clear that if someone intentionally tries to cause you to rear end them by jamming on their brakes then that would be one of the rare cases where they are also a proximate cause, but as I mentioned you can rarely prove it, so even then in most of those cases the driver that rear ended the other will still be found to be totally at fault (and whatever tickets and charges are issued is almost immaterial to who will be found at fault).
But even in the rare cases where you can actually prove they intentionally slammed on their brakes trying to intentionally cause you to rear end them, you (the rear ending driver) will typically still be found to be partially at fault for failing to maintain a safe following distance. No mater what he did, it doesn't change what you did or didn't do in regards to your own legal obligations. He had a legal obligation not to intentionally try to cause an accident, and you had a legal obligation to follow at a safe distance, and you both failed to meet your obligations. I can't tell if you are aware that there can be more than one, and sometimes even many, proximate causes.
If you rear end somebody, there is well over a 99% chance you are and will be found solely and completely at fault. In the rare cases where you aren't solely at fault, you will still more often than not be found to be partially at fault. It is very, very rare that a person rear ending someone else is found not to be at fault at all, and I already explained some of the types of special circumstances where it could typically happen in post #103.
I am not misunderstanding proximate cause. I have personally handled or advised on literally over a thousand rear end accident cases (probably several thousand), including cases in every single one of the 50 states.
On a side note to address another myth, police officers don't actually have very much knowledge about the intricacies of the law or in judging negligence or comparative negligence and the like--you know, basically all the things that are important in determining legal liability in an accident. What the officer's opinion is about who was at fault in an accident is very often wrong and typically carries very little if any weight in court or with an insurance company either one. What is important, and where officers are useful, is in the facts they were able to gather at the scene, whether it was statements from those involved, or from witnesses, or other physical evidence such as skid marks or field sobriety or blood alcohol tests or photos they took of the scene or whatever else. The insurance companies make their own evaluation about liability, as do the courts if it goes that far, and what the officer's opinion is about who he feels was how much at fault means very little and rightfully so. They just don't have the knowledge to make those kinds of determinations. Their gathered facts and evidence are important, but not so much their evaluation of them. I'm not trying to bust your chops on any of this, I just hate seeing misinformation spread even if it is done sincerely and with the best intentions.
This is a very good question.
The short answer is that a crappy pool stream and a quality pool stream -in Economics- are known as substitute goods. i.e. they satisfy substantially similar purposes. Therefore, if the price of one decreases then the demand for the other (the substitute) will tend to decrease.
Very simple example... I like Coke better than RC. But if they start giving RC away for free...I'm drinking RC.
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It's really simple, don't step on other people's toes. Ray brings in a crew, arranges for the players to get backed, fed and housed, brings a truckload of equipment and sets up a professional stream.
If a person is wondering how the tournament is going and would like to see some matches it should be clear that if they can see some for free then that is likely to be what they do. It's the equivalent of holding the back door open for a bunch of friends and depriving the house band of gate revenue.
Are we so petty in the pool world that we have to dog our friends and colleagues out of a few bucks just for our own gratification?
Either make an agreement to stream alongside the official streamer or don't stream.
If a person is wondering how the tournament is going and would like to see some matches it should be clear that if they can see some for free then that is likely to be what they do. It's the equivalent of holding the back door open for a bunch of friends and depriving the house band of gate revenue.
Are we so petty in the pool world that we have to dog our friends and colleagues out of a few bucks just for our own gratification?
Either make an agreement to stream alongside the official streamer or don't stream.
People will pay for his streams regardless if someone is streaming on a phone, he has scoreboards, multiple commentators and commentary along with better audio and video then Erica. I would have simply laughed it off but then again I don't do PPVs so maybe a couple people don't buy because she is streaming on her phone but in reality I think most people are going to pay up.
Maybe you have to draw the line somewhere before it gets out of hand and people keep stepping on your toes but if she had permission then so be it. I think her streaming matches for free on another table means little when the finals and semis will be shown on the TV table.
Erica could be doing multiple cameras, scoreboards, instant replay using Wirecast doing a solid stream for a few thousand but when you are doing a free stream its not a worth the investment unless you like the action, attention and pool in general. I do hope she keeps streaming as I hope all free streamers do because its good for the game.
I don't think PPV is a bad idea because its profitable for streamers and players but trust me sponsors/advertisers are not getting nowhere near the exposure a free stream gets. Ray might be getting 200-500 viewers for a PPV stream and if it was a free stream it would be 20,000 to 50,000 people tuning in.
I might be coming on strong about Ray and much time has past since he has been a jerk to me but I don't forget easily especially when it was done so maliciously and was totally unwarranted. I try to be decent and fair to anyone I meet along with helping out people in the industry and don't view this as a competition by any means. I believe guys like Daniel and Al and other people who stream who know me personally will tell you that if I can help out I will whether its sending sponsors a streamers way, technical advice, or promotion on my end. :smile:
I am doing fine Dick and hope you are well buddy. If you like one pocket and watching the worlds best players you should buy his streams, he is giving a good quality product which is worthwhile. I don't knock his streams even if he has knocked mine and don't wish ill will upon anyone...well okay I am lying there is a person or two I do but no one in the pool world, haha. Like I said in reality Ray makes no apologies and does things how he wants to do it and I guess its just how it is. Good luck to him.Hey Lendon..Not just because you're my bud, but I have never known you to make unfair accusations on any subject!..I had no idea you had some bad dealings with Big Truck..I had not thought of him that way, and have bought several of his streams in the past. (which by the way, I thought were usually overpriced)
I have had no problem with him trying to show a profit, but if (according to you) he has done so with a lot of shady, unfair practices, it will certainly effect my future dealings with him..You and Daniel,(POV) and Al, have always been above all the petty crap, which is a rare thing in the pool racket!..
As you know, I have always tried to get you to not give away all your hard work, but you are doing it the way you want to..Good luck in the future, and you know you will always have my business, even if you eventually have to charge a fair price for it!.
If they do not like the pay, get a job.
