Buckhorn Thread.

[Sore_Aintya]

Due to the massive amount of interest I have received about my stash of horns, I have decided to make this thread to explain rather then reply to Pm's all night.

What I have is a large quantity of deer, moose, goat/ram, elk, pronghorn and a few other species of horn/antler.

I acquired these while working for a "living museum" called Connor Prairie in the late 90's. These where my personal stock that was used for gun, musket and knife handles/inlays. Points are missing on quite a few but would be rather small for anything cue related other then inlay dots or "checks".

Since these are 99% shed horns there are some with chew marks on them. What I plan to do (time permitting) is hand sort these for the thickest, biggest and if possible species, and remove the defected ones (some are sun bleached, not sure how well they would cut).

If you are interested in any all I ask is you cover the shipping. But please try and wait until I have had a chance to see what Ive got.

I'm off to league, but if there are any questions feel free to ask here and I will try my best to answer when I return.

 

[MVPCues]

Due to the massive amount of interest I have received about my stash of horns, I have decided to make this thread to explain rather then reply to Pm's all night.

I warned you...

Kelly

 

[Chris]

What is the appeal of buckhorn ferrules?

What are the qualities of this stuff? How does it compare to ivory and synthetics like ivorineIII or Ivor-X?

 

[BLACKHEARTCUES]

What are the qualities of this stuff? How does it compare to ivory and synthetics like ivorineIII or Ivor-X?

I think Antler plays a lot like Ivory, but is stronger. It's not as affected by moisture, like Ivory. I personally think that Ivor-x has a dead hit & I'm not a big fan of Ivorine either(too hard to keep clean). Antler's hit is more lively than either of them, but less than Ivory. It's also not as white as any of the others...JER

 

[Arnot Wadsworth]

Ivory Stronger Than Antler?

I think Antler plays a lot like Ivory, but is stronger. It's not as affected by moisture, like Ivory. I personally think that Ivor-x has a dead hit & I'm not a big fan of Ivorine either(too hard to keep clean). Antler's hit is more lively than either of them, but less than Ivory. It's also not as white as any of the others...JER

By what test did you determine that Antler is stronger than Ivory? From the Antler I have seen it seems to be very inconsistent from the end view.

 

[hadjcues]

Due to the massive amount of interest I have received about my stash of horns, I have decided to make this thread to explain rather then reply to Pm's all night.

What I have is a large quantity of deer, moose, goat/ram, elk, pronghorn and a few other species of horn/antler.

I acquired these while working for a "living museum" called Connor Prairie in the late 90's. These where my personal stock that was used for gun, musket and knife handles/inlays. Points are missing on quite a few but would be rather small for anything cue related other then inlay dots or "checks".

Since these are 99% shed horns there are some with chew marks on them. What I plan to do (time permitting) is hand sort these for the thickest, biggest and if possible species, and remove the defected ones (some are sun bleached, not sure how well they would cut).

If you are interested in any all I ask is you cover the shipping. But please try and wait until I have had a chance to see what Ive got.

I'm off to league, but if there are any questions feel free to ask here and I will try my best to answer when I return.

Do save for me sizes big enough for joints and ferrules

 

[BLACKHEARTCUES]

By what test did you determine that Antler is stronger than Ivory? From the Antler I have seen it seems to be very inconsistent from the end view.

Hi Arnot, these are MY OBSREVATIONS & OPINIONS, from using both for the past 20 years. I don't have access to test data & I don't know of any that exist. I have had, over the years, customers who requsted Ivory ferrules & brought them back cracked. When I replaced them with Antler they stayed intact. These are people that really misstreat their equipment. If it holds up for them then it must have some better properties. I myself had a tube type ferrule on my break Q as an experiment, that was 10 years old when I sold the Q. No problems. Have you personally use much Antler, Arnot? I can send you one to try...JER

 

[JoeyInCali]

By what test did you determine that Antler is stronger than Ivory? From the Antler I have seen it seems to be very inconsistent from the end view.

Antlers must be stronger as they don't crack like ivory.
Bill Hagan used it extensively. So does Kerry Zeiler now.
With .625" ID and uncapped, they are reliable enough not to crack.

I agree with Jer's observation notes.
Btw, there are several species of antlers.
Finding the right specie is a project itself.

 

[Sore_Aintya]

Btw, there are several species of antlers.
Finding the right specie is a project itself.

Herein lies my biggest concern. Any idea how I can tell which is which?

 

[Arnot Wadsworth]

Ivory Ferrule On a Break Cue

Hi Arnot, these are MY OBSREVATIONS & OPINIONS, from using both for the past 20 years. I don't have access to test data & I don't know of any that exist. I have had, over the years, customers who requsted Ivory ferrules & brought them back cracked. When I replaced them with Antler they stayed intact. These are people that really misstreat their equipment. If it holds up for them then it must have some better properties. I myself had a tube type ferrule on my break Q as an experiment, that was 10 years old when I sold the Q. No problems. Have you personally use much Antler, Arnot? I can send you one to try...JER

Thanks for the heads up. Any time a ferrule last for over 10 years on a break cue it is good enough for me. Considering all the abuse the normal break cue gets an Ivory ferrule on a regular playing cue should last forever.

Good cuemaking,

 

[Cuedog]

Horns

I know little if any about species, but have many years
working with Buckhorn ferrules and joints.
I can give some aid in determining the good from the not-so-good

Let us know when youv'e sorted through it

Dale Pierce

Would you be willing to share your experiences with us here Dale? It will be very helpful for when purchases are being considered form other sources. Thank you.

Gene

 

[pdcue]

volunteer worker

Herein lies my biggest concern. Any idea how I can tell which is which?

I know little if any about species, but have many years
working with Buckhorn ferrules and joints.
I can give some aid in determining the good from the not-so-good

Let us know when youv'e sorted through it

Dale Pierce