I don't think you can and I offer my Youtube Debut as evidence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TnSfU2_A7M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TnSfU2_A7M
Can you transfer side spin to an OB?
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Yes you can!!!
Actually...
You CAN transfer side spin to an object ball. An easy test is to put the OB on the spot and the CB behind directly in line with the OB and middle diamond. Shoot the OB with either side of english straight into the middle diamond and the OB will spin off the rail.
Pretty simple actually...
Gary
You CAN transfer side spin to an object ball. An easy test is to put the OB on the spot and the CB behind directly in line with the OB and middle diamond. Shoot the OB with either side of english straight into the middle diamond and the OB will spin off the rail.
Pretty simple actually...
Gary
Try hitting that shot a little softer and check the results. In your last shot, the stripe on the ball was verticle, but went off axis as soon as it was hit, that was spin :wink:
no it was throw... the stripe was knocked slightly offline at impact.... to qualify as transferred spin it would have to maintain that rotation... it does not
IMO you need at least one rotation around the vertical axis to constitute spin.
I'd even settle for half a rotation
a nudge isn't spin.. at least not useful spin
no it was throw... the stripe was knocked slightly offline at impact.... to qualify as transferred spin it would have to maintain that rotation... it does not
IMO you need at least one rotation around the vertical axis to constitute spin.
I'd even settle for half a rotation
a nudge isn't spin.. at least not useful spin
how bout if the OB travelled long enough?? pretty sure it would spin all the way eventually right?
no it was throw... the stripe was knocked slightly offline at impact.... to qualify as transferred spin it would have to maintain that rotation... it does not
IMO you need at least one rotation around the vertical axis to constitute spin.
I'd even settle for half a rotation
a nudge isn't spin.. at least not useful spin
You're not right here.
Whenever there is throw, there is also spin. They go hand in hand, and you can't have one without the other. They come from the same force.
As your video demonstrates, the object ball gets only a small amount of spin. But that small amount is pretty important when the object ball hits a rail.
Left transfers right and right transfers left.
I use it all the time doing crossbanks to make the diamonds work for me.
I use it all the time doing crossbanks to make the diamonds work for me.
but the ball isn't spinning when it hits the rail
as I understand it throw is a nudge off of the center to center line caused by english. the OB then achieves natural roll along this new line..
here is another video attempting to explain myself more clearly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpdTU8Dfvkw
a thin cut angle shot with center ball gives us what is known as CIT Collision Induced Throw.. and requires no side spin whatsoever.
I can change that offline angle simply by changing the speed of the stroke.
Not the same thing, lol. There is a HUGE difference between that and true "throw". Anybody who can make 2 balls in a row knows that.
I don't think I have ever seen this many people wrong on one page.
NO YOU CAN'T!
You don't use it all the time...
You can't learn it...
It does't help with banks,
cause it doesn't happen.
Sorry!
You can push the object ball to a different line, that line will cause what appears to be side, it isn't!
NO YOU CAN'T!
You don't use it all the time...
You can't learn it...
It does't help with banks,
cause it doesn't happen.
Sorry!
You can push the object ball to a different line, that line will cause what appears to be side, it isn't!
Did you watch that video I linked for you (after you challenged me to show you a video exactly like that)? What about that video was unconvincing for you?
Here it is again, clearly showing meaningful sidespin transferred to an OB:
This is well known, basic stuff - so well known that I don't even have to bother watching your video to know it's wrong. You can't be a decent player without knowing this, and it's been discussed on every pool forum forever. You have no excuse for being so confidently wrong.
pj
chgo
might seem like magic, it's applied force. The force is at an angle to aiming line.
How's this. I offer to play any living human who thinks that there is no such thing as side spin transfer. ANY ONE. Just let me know when you will be in the Southeastern US. And I am not even a champion. Maybe a shortstop.I still am interested to know how they could explain the way balls lengthen and shorten, especially after multiple rails have been contacted, lol. I find it really funny.