Cue just purchased...need help id'ing

Looks like a good buy for $200!
Check the Blue Book, never know what you'll find in there!

Zim
 
good eye mac.......yeah i have an old schon.....late 80s early 90s......and its a 5/16 14.......my shafts dont say schon but they have a simple silver ring, i was thinking it wasnt a schon because the of the ring. Unless schon used to use an 18 pin way back or something
 
scottycoyote said:
good eye mac.......yeah i have an old schon.....late 80s early 90s......and its a 5/16 14.......my shafts dont say schon but they have a simple silver ring, i was thinking it wasnt a schon because the of the ring. Unless schon used to use an 18 pin way back or something
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Yeah the ring work threw me as well...hmmm...5/16-18 piloted joint...makes ya wonder eh? I hope it was worth at least what I paid. Then again, I got more money than sense anyway HA HA.

Shorty
 
Shorty said:
Yeah the ring work threw me as well...hmmm...5/16-18 piloted joint...makes ya wonder eh? I hope it was worth at least what I paid. Then again, I got more money than sense anyway HA HA.

Shorty
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What are the chances that the cue may be a Huebler?
 
It actually looks like one of the new ones out of the Philipines. They have been selling quite a few on ebay. I wish I could remember the makers name.
 
Michael Webb said:
It actually looks like one of the new ones out of the Philipines. They have been selling quite a few on ebay. I wish I could remember the makers name.
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But the cue looks older...not like the Philipine cues I have seen, which reminds me. I bought one on eBay and turned around and sold it on eBay and made a profit...was the strangest thing. Someone must of been hard up for a cue with a snakeskin wrap...*yeah it was fugly*.

Shorty
 
hey i happened to go back and look at the item and right there in the description it says "not joss, schon"
which i take it to mean its not a joss or a schon, although i know people usually put words like that in their description so if you do a search for a joss or schon you pull up that item. no kind of mark whatsoever on the cue? How about something inside the bottom?

I have a subscription to the bluebook of cues on line if you find something
 
scottycoyote said:
I have a subscription to the bluebook of cues on line if you find something
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I never heard of Blue Book on line, Where do you go and how much is a subscription? Do they have any of the 3rd Issue stuff on there?

Tracy
 
Well you know the points are probably inlayed and not spliced. I'm not sure, but in the picture the bumper does look kind of brown in color, kind of like a huebler, maybe that is what jazz444 Is thinking too. Who else uses that color bumper would be a good question? That might narrow it down some. Also not sure, but from the picture the joint looks like 5/16x18 to me also, but the picture could be deceiving, the 5/16x14 joint is close to the same size, but has coarser threads. I am not sure who made it, but looks Like it may play well, If so, and It's straight, with no rattles that's all that would matter to me at that price. The butt cap does look older, but the faces of the joints look kind of newer, and the butt cap could be the lighting in the picture, the color of material used, or the finish, so hard to tell from the picture. the faces could have just been well kepted, or the faces could have actually been refaced at on time even, so hard to make a determination from the pictures. It does not look like the more common philipine cues I have seen, but can't say for sure It's not either, as I have seen some less common designs from there also.
 
Cue Crazy said:
Well you know the points are probably inlayed and not spliced. I'm not sure, but in the picture the bumper does look kind of brown in color, kind of like a huebler, maybe that is what jazz444 Is thinking too. Who else uses that color bumper would be a good question? That might narrow it down some. Also not sure, but from the picture the joint looks like 5/16x18 to me also, but the picture could be deceiving, the 5/16x14 joint is close to the same size, but has coarser threads. I am not sure who made it, but looks Like it may play well, If so, and It's straight, with no rattles that's all that would matter to me at that price. The butt cap does look older, but the faces of the joints look kind of newer, and the butt cap could be the lighting in the picture, the color of material used, or the finish, so hard to tell from the picture. the faces could have just been well kepted, or the faces could have actually been refaced at on time even, so hard to make a determination from the pictures. It does not look like the more common philipine cues I have seen, but can't say for sure It's not either, as I have seen some less common designs from there also.
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Ya know, I was thinking maybe this cue underwent a refinish job perhaps?

Shorty
 
Shorty said:
Ya know, I was thinking maybe this cue underwent a refinish job perhaps?

Shorty
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Anything is possible, some epoxy finishes will make the butt cap look that color too. For that matter some finishes without UV protection will do it even. How hard does the finish feel, and see any bubbles on the cap, or any of the ringwork, sometimes epoxy will lift underneath if not sticking well, and look like a bubble? I have refinished major name factory cues where I could actually peel the finish off with some patience, leaving the cue perfectly smooth even before any sanding had even been done. It sure made the refinsh come out better, and easier in the end, so no complaint from me on that, lasted a while before needing It, and was easier to do a complete refinish.

Shorty, still finishing up that stuff from last night, will be done soon, and will get that pic over to you when I am done. should get the email before the night is over. fixing to go back in the hole right now, kick on some tunes, and finish that stuff up real quick.My tiny shop is a mess, and i can't even turn around without running into something, needless to say It has slowed me down alittle, cause i can't find a dog gone thing with all the clutter, time to reorganize again before I loose My marbles LOL. anyway, will get that to you as soon as I get a chance. Greg
 
what is the overall length of the cue, if it's 57", my bet would be something in the adam cue family,,,the piloted joint looks very similar to adam, balabushka, etc., I've bought and sold many that had both 5/16 - 18 & 5/16 - 14 threads,,,just depends when and where it was made (a lot of early adam/helmstetter cues had nothing on the butt cap).........jack
 
The points are very rounded on the ends and short. Huebler had a flat fact joint with nylon insert. My guess is this is a custom cue by some smaller cuemaker.
 
> The other thing that makes this cue NOT a Schon is the end of the shafts and joint collars. Schon,to my knowledge,has always used a joint collar design that totally encases the end grain in the wood,for several good reasons. The silver "index" type trim rings in these joint collars also do not appear to be Schon's style,but I have seen some high end cues from them with fancier rings like this. Whatever it is,it appears to have been well made,so I don't think you got robbed. Tommy D.
 
cueman said:
The points are very rounded on the ends and short. Huebler had a flat fact joint with nylon insert. My guess is this is a custom cue by some smaller cuemaker.
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Yeah looks like panto work, not sharp, but sharper, and cleaner then a butter type splice might would be. I don't see alot of hueblers, but do remember the flat face, and insert on those i have ran accross. the only thing that reminds me of huebler is the color the bumper seems to be from the picture. Others have used them, but not the most common color either. Ofcoarse there is no telling if the bumper is original or not anyway, so don't know if that would help figure out the actual builder even if narrowed down. Many good cuemakers have piloted their joints at one time or another, so never know could be a gem in the rough. You know the best way to find that out. Put It in action and see how It feels.
 
Got the cue

Let me start off by saying...wow...this thing feels SOLID...more solid than my Schon even. Definately weighted towards the front...and has a good stroke it appears.

The inlays all feel raised, almost like stickers, but not quite...the butt cap is almost an ivory color, like faded with age, and has had something rubbed off...like a weight sticker or something. The wrap is a fresh pressed...feels nice. The ferrule is like a blue grey color...not ivory I suppose. It almost looks plastic...nice new tip though. The shaft feels nice and firm, straight taper it appears.

All in all I am happy...but I swear I can't tell what brand it is!

Shorty
 
Shorty said:
Let me start off by saying...wow...this thing feels SOLID...more solid than my Schon even. Definately weighted towards the front...and has a good stroke it appears.

The inlays all feel raised, almost like stickers, but not quite...the butt cap is almost an ivory color, like faded with age, and has had something rubbed off...like a weight sticker or something. The wrap is a fresh pressed...feels nice. The ferrule is like a blue grey color...not ivory I suppose. It almost looks plastic...nice new tip though. The shaft feels nice and firm, straight taper it appears.

All in all I am happy...but I swear I can't tell what brand it is!

Shorty
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By the looks of those points I would guess they are real without seeing it in person. If they were decal, seems like they would be sharper just because they could be as easily with decals. You are probably correct in thinking they are raised, but like I said without seeing It in hand hard to know for sure. It is cool that It's got your forward balance that you prefer, Either way if it plays well for you then keep It, because might rather use It sometime instead of your schon depending on where you are playing at. some places can be tight quarters to shoot in, and easily beat the butt of your good cue up. Greg
 
Shot with the cue...

Don't know and I don't care what brand it is...this thing hits a TON. Very good forward balance, 19.75 ounces. Feels like a 21, but balanced good so it hits like a 19. I shot a few racks of 9 ball and this thing really can get some english on whitey. I am not sure if its the Moori or the cue or the weight or all of the above. Definately a pretty cue, a sleeper, and well worth what I paid for it on eBay. Now if I can just find someone to ID it cause I am sure curious!

Shorty
 
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