Drawing the rock

[Shorty]

Can I ask a stupid question here??? *Hey at least I know I am loading myself up for insults*

Is it not harder to draw the rock shooting one handed?

I been playing this damn game we call pool for going on 22+ dang years, and sometimes I flat out can't draw the ball for anything. The Predator shaft seems to help some, but sometimes it's like my stroke just dies on me...the draw does not take...or hell I don't know what goes wrong. But does doing it one handed have its problems or what? If my arms were longer or they made a 19 ounce cue about 40 inches long, I would love to try and draw a ball with two hands...HMMMMM

Just curious...thanks!

Shorty

 

[Jude Rosenstock]

Can I ask a stupid question here??? *Hey at least I know I am loading myself up for insults*

Is it not harder to draw the rock shooting one handed?

I been playing this damn game we call pool for going on 22+ dang years, and sometimes I flat out can't draw the ball for anything. The Predator shaft seems to help some, but sometimes it's like my stroke just dies on me...the draw does not take...or hell I don't know what goes wrong. But does doing it one handed have its problems or what? If my arms were longer or they made a 19 ounce cue about 40 inches long, I would love to try and draw a ball with two hands...HMMMMM

Just curious...thanks!

Shorty

Okay seriously, there isn't a single person who plays this game that doesn't get a little uncomfortable with draw from time to time. It's perfectly natural. To perfect draw, you have to miscue about a billion times and that sometimes seeps into your head as you're about to draw the rock back. My suggestion is to remind yourself that you're a trained expert in draw and that such an occurance will not happen. Hit it as though you wanted to show-off how incredible your draw is and don't worry about what might happen if something goes wrong.

 

[ARM9BALLER]

Can I ask a stupid question here??? *Hey at least I know I am loading myself up for insults*

Is it not harder to draw the rock shooting one handed?

I been playing this damn game we call pool for going on 22+ dang years, and sometimes I flat out can't draw the ball for anything. The Predator shaft seems to help some, but sometimes it's like my stroke just dies on me...the draw does not take...or hell I don't know what goes wrong. But does doing it one handed have its problems or what? If my arms were longer or they made a 19 ounce cue about 40 inches long, I would love to try and draw a ball with two hands...HMMMMM

Just curious...thanks!

Shorty

Is there any way you can aim lower on the ball? With of course your stick being level as possible. I find sometimes for me that even a little elevation will draw more but creates less accuracy. I guess with you shorty its like trying to draw a ball with a bridge. Sometimes it wants to suck back toward you and sometimes it just sits there and looks at you laughing. Just my .02

 

[Egg McDogit]

have you ever thought about getting a 40 inch cue custom made?

Can I ask a stupid question here??? *Hey at least I know I am loading myself up for insults*

Is it not harder to draw the rock shooting one handed?

I been playing this damn game we call pool for going on 22+ dang years, and sometimes I flat out can't draw the ball for anything. The Predator shaft seems to help some, but sometimes it's like my stroke just dies on me...the draw does not take...or hell I don't know what goes wrong. But does doing it one handed have its problems or what? If my arms were longer or they made a 19 ounce cue about 40 inches long, I would love to try and draw a ball with two hands...HMMMMM

Just curious...thanks!

Shorty

 

[Shorty]

Yeah Arm, it's like I can't get my bridge low enough...then when I rotate it and get low, it scoops or hops on me...hard to flaten out my stroke with my bridge...or feels like it will hop...and Egg, I don't know if I know a cuemaker that could handle that request...I got my son's cuetec at home and I may could try it next time we are playing, I think its like 42 or 48 inches. I just get so frustrated seeing guys get even a half a table and I get excited about 6 inches HA HA...*no that was not meant for you MarissaYi* If I could ever draw the rock, I would be one dangerous midget!

Shorty

 

[Tbeaux]

Can I ask a stupid question here??? *Hey at least I know I am loading myself up for insults*

Is it not harder to draw the rock shooting one handed?

I been playing this damn game we call pool for going on 22+ dang years, and sometimes I flat out can't draw the ball for anything. The Predator shaft seems to help some, but sometimes it's like my stroke just dies on me...the draw does not take...or hell I don't know what goes wrong. But does doing it one handed have its problems or what? If my arms were longer or they made a 19 ounce cue about 40 inches long, I would love to try and draw a ball with two hands...HMMMMM

Just curious...thanks!

Shorty

Shorty the question being stupid has never stopped anyone on this forum before but your question isn't. Maybe you need to have a special lowboy bridge made just for draw shots? Just a thought.

Terry

 

[DrCue'sProtege]

the longer draw shots are a troublesome shot for me. you dont have any room for error, almost none. heck, it took me 15 minutes the other night just to make 5 of them in a row.

DCP

 

[pete lafond]

Can I ask a stupid question here??? *Hey at least I know I am loading myself up for insults*

Is it not harder to draw the rock shooting one handed?

I been playing this damn game we call pool for going on 22+ dang years, and sometimes I flat out can't draw the ball for anything. The Predator shaft seems to help some, but sometimes it's like my stroke just dies on me...the draw does not take...or hell I don't know what goes wrong. But does doing it one handed have its problems or what? If my arms were longer or they made a 19 ounce cue about 40 inches long, I would love to try and draw a ball with two hands...HMMMMM

Just curious...thanks!

Shorty

Let me understand, are you drawing using a mechanical bridge?

 

[Jude Rosenstock]

If I could ever draw the rock, I would be one dangerous midget!

Shorty

Then sir, since I can draw the rock back, I guess that makes me one dangerous midget! I'll go change my signature now!

 

[Rickw]

Shorty,

Check your follow through out, you might be coming up with the cue at the end of your stroke. You need to go through the ball with a very level stroke and stroke low on the cb. Also, you don't need to follow through more than about 2 to 4 inches to get draw. Sometimes you hit through the ball too much and too hard and can kill the spin.

 

[Shorty]

Let me understand, are you drawing using a mechanical bridge?

Yeah it's a special bridge I developed when I was around 15 with my dad. It has gone through several iterations and basically slips over the end of my cue and slides up and down my shaft as I stroke. It is a free standing bridge unlike a normal bridge on a stick. For this reason it is a bit unsteady, perhaps even too unsteady for draw english. If I am shooting soft to medium speed, it is fine...but if I am really having to hammer a ball, it is hard to get it to stay down. Maybe I need to experiment and add some weight to it? Anyone here know a good machinist or welder?

Shorty

 

[Jude Rosenstock]

Yeah it's a special bridge I developed when I was around 15 with my dad. It has gone through several iterations and basically slips over the end of my cue and slides up and down my shaft as I stroke. It is a free standing bridge unlike a normal bridge on a stick. For this reason it is a bit unsteady, perhaps even too unsteady for draw english. If I am shooting soft to medium speed, it is fine...but if I am really having to hammer a ball, it is hard to get it to stay down. Maybe I need to experiment and add some weight to it? Anyone here know a good machinist or welder?

Shorty

Actually, this has me rather intrigued. Are there any companies that make billiard products like this? I once played out of a wheelchair to get a better sense of what it's like for one of my former league players and realized that it'd be awesome if a wheelchar could give a little like shock-absorbers on a truck.

I mean, with all the stuff they do make (and remake), I'm a bit surprised if nobody has tapped a market that is in dire need of new and useful equipment.

 

[RSB-Refugee]

Yeah it's a special bridge I developed when I was around 15 with my dad. It has gone through several iterations and basically slips over the end of my cue and slides up and down my shaft as I stroke. It is a free standing bridge unlike a normal bridge on a stick. For this reason it is a bit unsteady, perhaps even too unsteady for draw english.

How high does it hold the shaft above the table? Do you use a side arm stroke or more of an over handed stroke?

Tracy

 

[Shorty]

How high does it hold the shaft above the table? Do you use a side arm stroke or more of an over handed stroke?

Tracy

It holds the shaft about a tip and a half above center at its normal leg height...I can rotate it to get to lower heights though...as low as 2 tips off the cloth. Yes, I do use a sidearm stroke. My stroke is pretty similar to Keith's or Wille Hoppes. I just feel it does not have enough weight to hold it down right at contact...and maybe I am moving the cue too hard and fast.

Shorty

 

[Tbeaux]

It holds the shaft about a tip and a half above center at its normal leg height...I can rotate it to get to lower heights though...as low as 2 tips off the cloth. Yes, I do use a sidearm stroke. My stroke is pretty similar to Keith's or Wille Hoppes. I just feel it does not have enough weight to hold it down right at contact...and maybe I am moving the cue too hard and fast.

Shorty

Two tips off the cloth? Sounds like your bridge is low enough. Have someone watch closely while you try a draw shot and see if they think you're hitting high on the ball from lifting the bridge.Added weight may be the answer (sorry I know how much you hate heavy bridges )

Terry

 

[RSB-Refugee]

It holds the shaft about a tip and a half above center at its normal leg height...I can rotate it to get to lower heights though...as low as 2 tips off the cloth. Yes, I do use a sidearm stroke. My stroke is pretty similar to Keith's or Wille Hoppes. I just feel it does not have enough weight to hold it down right at contact...and maybe I am moving the cue too hard and fast.

Have your wife, snap a few pics of you using it. Get a close-up of the bridge. Maybe someone can think of a fix, to make it easier for you.

Tracy

 

[pete lafond]

Can I ask a stupid question here??? *Hey at least I know I am loading myself up for insults*

Is it not harder to draw the rock shooting one handed?

I been playing this damn game we call pool for going on 22+ dang years, and sometimes I flat out can't draw the ball for anything. The Predator shaft seems to help some, but sometimes it's like my stroke just dies on me...the draw does not take...or hell I don't know what goes wrong. But does doing it one handed have its problems or what? If my arms were longer or they made a 19 ounce cue about 40 inches long, I would love to try and draw a ball with two hands...HMMMMM

Just curious...thanks!

Shorty

Tip not as low and raise you back hand slightly. Stoke through the ball completely, no jerky motions, just as if you want the tip of your stick to touch the object ball exactly at the point you want cue ball contact. Very smooth and a very complete stoke.

If you add weight to your bridge, add it to the handle end not the bridge end. You should realize better stability in the bridge and at the same time be able to pick it up quickly.

 

[jhendri2]

Can you post a picture of your bridge? I'm not inclined myself, but I know a few guys who can build anything we design out of metal.

Jim

 

[rhncue]

Can I ask a stupid question here??? *Hey at least I know I am loading myself up for insults*

Is it not harder to draw the rock shooting one handed?

I been playing this damn game we call pool for going on 22+ dang years, and sometimes I flat out can't draw the ball for anything. The Predator shaft seems to help some, but sometimes it's like my stroke just dies on me...the draw does not take...or hell I don't know what goes wrong. But does doing it one handed have its problems or what? If my arms were longer or they made a 19 ounce cue about 40 inches long, I would love to try and draw a ball with two hands...HMMMMM

Just curious...thanks!

Shorty

Look at the cue ball last, instead of the object ball, when playing the shot.
Dick

 

[cubswin]

It holds the shaft about a tip and a half above center at its normal leg height...I can rotate it to get to lower heights though...as low as 2 tips off the cloth. Yes, I do use a sidearm stroke. My stroke is pretty similar to Keith's or Wille Hoppes. I just feel it does not have enough weight to hold it down right at contact...and maybe I am moving the cue too hard and fast.

Shorty

the other post about adding weight to it made me think of something you could try easily enough. http://www.theoriginalstickyweight.com/ Its a fishing product. Not the best web page. You used to be able to get it from basspro.com or cabelas.com but can't find it at their store anymore. Its sticky putty and made from tungsten. About 5 bucks for a 1 oz container, but would let you test out adding weight without it be permanent and so you could place it where you want on your bridge.