Eagle Eye Takes Aim at 14.1 High Runs

realkingcobra

Well-known member
Silver Member
I saw you mention it on another thread. I'm going to be recovering my table in the somewhat near future, it's an 8' Olhausen with the old felt style cloth. I like the way it plays except for the corner pockets which I will fix. I think the 860HR and Predator cloths are too fast, especially for an 8' table. 860 is probably on the upper limit of speed for my taste. Are there any tables in NorCal that I could try it?
Nope
 

Sheldon

dontneednostinkintitle
Silver Member
I’d just like to report that I care....yeah, Glen can be cranky. But a lot of people that are good at things can be cranky.
I know a lot about billiard equipment... Glen quadrupled that knowledge on AZ for me.
Same here! Glen has been very generous helping me whenever I've asked for advice while I'm learning to work on tables. His knowledge is encyclopedic, and his accomplishments are numerous and outstanding. He's done more for pool than anyone posting here, that's for sure.
He could react better to the trolls, but who cares. It's the internet and if you take this sh*t personally, you're not too bright.
 

realkingcobra

Well-known member
Silver Member
Sorry, but I this is not rocket science.
You know, I've always been curious about people that make that kind of comment, do you know any rocket scientists personally? Have you ever seen a rocket ship?

I delivered Diamond 7ft ProAm, 3 piece slate once to a nuclear physicist working at the Alamogordo, New Mexico nuclear research facility.

Once I unloaded the table in his garage, I thought I'd tease him a little, so I asked him if he could handle the set up from there because I'm always hearing that my job isn't rocket science, and that anyone can do it.

He responded laughing, he'll no I can't set that table up, that's why I specifically asked Diamond to have YOU deliver and set my table up.

So I have to tell you, right at that moment, I felt like, I'm MUST BE at least as smart as a nuclear physicist, because he said no way to being able to do MY job!!!

So there ya go Buck Rodgers, my job must be as import as being a rocket scientist, hell, YOU couldn't do my job, so what does that say about how smart YOU are!😅🤣😂
 

kanzzo

hobby player
You know, I've always been curious about people that make that kind of comment, do you know any rocket scientists personally? Have you ever seen a rocket ship?

I delivered Diamond 7ft ProAm, 3 piece slate once to a nuclear physicist working at the Alamogordo, New Mexico nuclear research facility.

Once I unloaded the table in his garage, I thought I'd tease him a little, so I asked him if he could handle the set up from there because I'm always hearing that my job isn't rocket science, and that anyone can do it.

He responded laughing, he'll no I can't set that table up, that's why I specifically asked Diamond to have YOU deliver and set my table up.

So I have to tell you, right at that moment, I felt like, I'm MUST BE at least as smart as a nuclear physicist, because he said no way to being able to do MY job!!!

So there ya go Buck Rodgers, my job must be as import as being a rocket scientist, hell, YOU couldn't do my job, so what does that say about how smart YOU are!😅🤣😂
"it's not rocket science" is in idiom. I means that something is not very difficult to do or to understand.
That's because you don't understand pocket geometry. The closer to parallel the miter angles are, the further back in the throat the balls get deflected, which means less rejection and more accepting the pockets are to pocketing balls!!
You implied I would't understand pocket geometry and would not understand, that smaller pocket angle makes for easier pockets. But I wrote about it a few posts back, so I did understand it, as does everybody else.
pocket plays easier if angle is smaller. Sorry, but I this is not rocket science.
You are not even able to qute correctly and your reading comprehension is very poor. I wrote that to understand "that pocket plays easier if angle is smaller" is not rocket science and the meaning of the idiom is:
pocket plays easier if angle is smaller is easy to understand. I did understand it.
I have no idea why the organisators don't provide the exact measurements. I had guessed from the photos that the angle is around 137-138°
(135° would made for absolutely parallel facings, so the angle must be a little above 135° but probably less then 142° that are normally on a Brunswick table. I had a GCIII for 5 years and owe a GCV and the angle is 142° on my table at home)

Dr Dave provided a nice system with TDF to compare, how different variations in pocket measurements change the difficulty of the table.
The 5'' pockets make it 9% easier
The flat shelf makes it 5% easier
The pocket angle makes it 3% easier.

Combined (since you have to multiply the numbers) it makes for an 16% easier table. So the pocket angle is a relevant factor but it's the smallest one.
But you would even take my words out of context just to prove your point and this is what I meant, when I said you way of arguing is that of a 7 year old.
I never said I could do your job better then you (I imply your job ist to set up pool tables and not arguing on forums). And it's a nice and polite way from you customer to let you think, you are as smart as he is. So the nuclear physicist you had as a customer must have been a nice guy. But from the content you are posting on this forum you don't seem very smart, sorry.

The more wise a person is the more he is aware of his intellectual limitations. Unfortunately, the opposite is true. The fool thinks he knows everything.

Edit:
Fun trivia fact: most 7 years old don't understand idioms and take them too literally. Normally the idiom comprehension is completed by eleven years of age.
The development of idiom comprehension
 
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Shuddy

Diamond Dave’s babysitter
Silver Member
To be clear, and as I’ve stated earlier, I don’t actually care about the table when it comes to record setting exhibition runs. There is no standard. There never has been a standard. JS (Schmidt) was the record holder. Now, JS (Shaw) is the record holder.

However, this photo put any nonsense of gaff table to sleep as far as I’m concerned. The photo is taken at an angle with the throat of the pocket closer to the camera, meaning it will appear slightly larger than the mouth, giving even more credence to my pink lines.

Even without my pink line, you can quite clearly see the throat is narrower than the mouth.

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kanzzo

hobby player
I've seen pictures of those pockets, do you really believe after working on pool tables for 40 years, I can't look at a picture of a corner pocket an tell if something is off or not????

my guess for the pocket angle is from same same photos provided by Lou in this forum. My guess was 137-138°. You said it's parallel and angle is 135°

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now check this picture and say, which estimation was closer.

What does this say about your level of expertise?
 

kanzzo

hobby player
However, this photo put any nonsense of gaff table to sleep as far as I’m concerned. The photo is taken at an angle with the throat of the pocket closer to the camera, meaning it will appear slightly larger than the mouth, giving even more credence to my pink lines.

Even without my pink line, you can quite clearly see the throat is narrower than the mouth.
thank you for the photo. From this angle of the photo I would even guess the pocket angle to be139-140° making the pockets tougher, then in my earlier estimation.

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Shuddy

Diamond Dave’s babysitter
Silver Member
thank you for the photo. From this angle of the photo I would even guess the pocket angle to be139-140° making the pockets tougher, then in my earlier estimation.

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Yeah. They’re making no attempt to hide the pockets. There’s numerous streams now of them walking around the table, talking to Jason after his 714. There’s a bunch of photos from various angles, etc, etc.

I think Bobby is just not going to give fuel to the churning chumps by providing any more serious details than he already has.
 

sammylane12

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
The easiest way to end ALL this talk about the corner pockets being gaffed up, is to ether show the throat measurement, or put 2 balls in the throat of the pocket as far back as they'll sit, touching both sides of the pocket so gap between the balls is clearly visible in the picture, but then, that would expose the truth, and that's NOT happening!!
Actually the easiest way would be for you to shut up
 

SilentLurker

Registered
What a fun week that was, we learned that all the experts in the "championship" game are all massively overrated.

Their niche hobby is a whole lot easier if someone way more talented gives it a serious go for a week.

We saw some ego's crushed, and funny meltdowns [in here] too.

Congrats Jayson!

PS. He ran over an extra 400 balls (way over twice more) than SVB on the same equipment.
 

lfigueroa

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Yeah. They’re making no attempt to hide the pockets. There’s numerous streams now of them walking around the table, talking to Jason after his 714. There’s a bunch of photos from various angles, etc, etc.

I think Bobby is just not going to give fuel to the churning chumps by providing any more serious details than he already has.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

Lou Figueroa
 

Z-Nole

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Wow!! Who would have thought the record would go down so fast and so convincingly. Congrats to Jason and everyone who put this event together.

I imagine every straight shooter out there is now thinking they can do the same thing with some time in the box. Filler, Shane and even JS are probably chomping at the bit to come give it a try and see what they can do. And I’m sure there’s a bunch of hard core 14.1 folks I’ve never heard of that want to give it a shot.

What a great day for the sport we all love!
 
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Z-Nole

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
And another table mechanic bites the dust!
What are you talking about? Did the snake finally choke on all the bile, hate and jealousy he spews? I was hoping he could learn something from the folks here who put this event together and finally get one of his “saving pool” projects off the ground. Or at least out of the blow hard stage.

Who’s looking forward to another 50 pages of pockets sizes??? Lol
 

xradarx

You may win a few, but, You will lose many
Silver Member
What are you talking about? Did the snake finally choke on all the bile, hate and jealousy he spews? I was hoping he could learn something from the folks here who put this event together and finally get one of his “saving pool” projects off the ground. Or at least out of the blow hard stage.

Who’s looking forward to another 50 pages of pockets sizes??? Lol
🪢 👁!
 
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