Is Melvin the guy with the RAM shot?
Ever win or lose by a "Lucky Shot"
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Playing the local champ in league play, the set was down to one easy shot, with him shooting at the eight ball for the win.
The crowd was hushed - that easy eight ball would win the night for his team.
Our guys were already sadly prepared for the defeat, even before he shot.
The champ stroked the eight into the corner pocket, easy as pie. Nobody expected him to miss, he was a great shooter. But instead of a bunch of team victory shouts, the room remained oddly silent.
Except for me, when I said in a small voice 'Foul".
The champ smacked his forehead, he knew instantly what had happened - he neglected to call the pocket for his eight ball shot. Rules said he lost because he didn't call the pocket.
His momentary lapse gave me the win. It also gave my team game, set and match for the night. But I still felt really bad calling the foul, and though my team was behind me, they were as embarrassed as me about winning due to such a cheap foul.
The crowd was hushed - that easy eight ball would win the night for his team.
Our guys were already sadly prepared for the defeat, even before he shot.
The champ stroked the eight into the corner pocket, easy as pie. Nobody expected him to miss, he was a great shooter. But instead of a bunch of team victory shouts, the room remained oddly silent.
Except for me, when I said in a small voice 'Foul".
The champ smacked his forehead, he knew instantly what had happened - he neglected to call the pocket for his eight ball shot. Rules said he lost because he didn't call the pocket.
His momentary lapse gave me the win. It also gave my team game, set and match for the night. But I still felt really bad calling the foul, and though my team was behind me, they were as embarrassed as me about winning due to such a cheap foul.
Luck is huge at the pro-level. A few lucky rolls can win a big tournament and start the momentum to build a career.
Every time i lose...
Lol, no. He really does play good (in a race to 9 on the big table he will break
and run like 3-4 racks). That shot he didn't even hit hard at all, like if you want
to make a stop shot from 6 diamonds away or so.
3 of us were watching and we have never seen anything like it. Closest thing
are a couple other shots done by "Melvin".
gr. Dave
If it was not an obvious shoot then I would understand.
Sportsmanship guidelines and rules are there for those that need them and clearly you did.
My captain has gotten on me more than once for not calling a loss on someone that failed to mark their pocket when the ball is sitting 5" from it.
I have never made a lucky shot.
I've made uncalled, highly unpredictable, secret technique, scientific shots, but never a lucky shot.
I leave the lucky shots to Efren.
I've made uncalled, highly unpredictable, secret technique, scientific shots, but never a lucky shot.
I leave the lucky shots to Efren.
Playing a hill-hill match, first round of a tournament, my opponent runs out and has a straight-in, one-foot shot on the 9-ball. He drills it, a little firmly to make his point, into the center of the pocket -- it goes down and pops right back up onto the table, leaving me straight in on it.
Was this in APA league play or another league? A SL7 once told me about a match against a SL6 in an APA team 8-ball Vegas qualifier, in which both players agreed to call the pocket for the 8-ball instead of marking it. The SL7 got to the hill first, called his pocket, made the 8-ball in the called pocket and the SL6 called a foul for the SL7 not marking the pocket. The SL7 did not lose the match in that game but the SL7 never recovered mentally from the bs move by the SL6 that he lost the match. The SL6 had the nerve to try to shake the SL7's hand and the SL7 refused to shake hands. I can't blame the SL7 for his reaction. I would have been less restrained. I understand that rules are rules but incidents like this are one reason why I hate the petty league play rules. However not even calling the 8-ball pocket is a fairly obvious mistake.
Not under WPA (world-standardized) rules:
"8.5 Driven off the Table
A ball is considered driven off the table if it comes to rest other than on the playing surface but is not pocketed. A ball is also considered driven off the table if it would have been driven off the table except for striking an object such as a light fixture, piece of chalk or a player which causes it to return to the table. A ball that contacts the top of the rail is not considered to have been driven off the table if it returns to the playing surface or enters a pocket."
I had to deal with the rule for the first time this past weekend. I played in a little 8-ball tournament on Diamond 7 footers. I miscued, hit my OB and the CB jumped on to the rail, eventually stopping on the rail (resting against the cloth on the top of the cushion). I tried suggesting that my opponent shot from there, but he didn't go for it.
What league is this so I can make sure I never join it? Any league that requires calling the 8-ball on an obvious shot needs to... well change its rules is the nice way to put it.
Although I wouldn't do it, I can understand the previous example (someone forgets to call the obvious pocket and is called on a foul), but your example would incite violence among many players. It is dishonest, and, in my view, unsportsmanlike behaviour. Not only would I not shake the player's hand, I would never speak to him.
In the APA, you have to "properly mark the pocket" for the 8-ball. If you pocket the 8-ball without doing that, you lose. I wonder whether that requirement is just ignored (by mutual agreement of the teams) in any matches.
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I think i would rather take second then call a foul on a guy shooting a straight in ball for not calling the pocket.
It is ignored sometimes. Just last night or 7 was shooting a good friend of his whom is a 6 and they agreed to call pocket. No problems.
What you should never do is not mark your pocket when you are shooting against someone you know is a poor sportsman or that you don't know at all. Especially at higher level tournaments were you will probably run into some schmuck that will do what the guy above did and call a foul.
Playing a buddy of mine in an 8 ball tournament I come up short for position on my last ball before the 8. I study the table for a while but couldn't find a shot, finally I decide to just fire the ball dead straight, stop my cue ball for perfect position on the 8 hoping my final ball will find a hole! Lucky for me my ball caroms off of another ball and banks center cup cross corner! :thumbup:
Had I known the shot then I might have played it, can be a pretty common one pocket shot bringing both balls to ur side
call shot
I played in a league tournament in vegas once that used an 8 ball patch. I ran the table, put the 8 ball patch down within the first diamond of the corner, shot it in...and lost. Apparently part of the 8 ball patch was touching part of the diamond, and it is supposed to be 'within' the first diamond. They called it on me. I was pretty disgusted.
So then in the last round I needed 6 balls to secure a win, but we had to play out the game even though I didn't need to win the game to win us the match. I broke, thundered my way through the rack, ran down to the 8 ball, then since I'd already won I stared at them and put the patch directly on the first diamond again and shot the 8 ball in. Go ahead and all it on me again you a$$holes...
I played in a league tournament in vegas once that used an 8 ball patch. I ran the table, put the 8 ball patch down within the first diamond of the corner, shot it in...and lost. Apparently part of the 8 ball patch was touching part of the diamond, and it is supposed to be 'within' the first diamond. They called it on me. I was pretty disgusted.
So then in the last round I needed 6 balls to secure a win, but we had to play out the game even though I didn't need to win the game to win us the match. I broke, thundered my way through the rack, ran down to the 8 ball, then since I'd already won I stared at them and put the patch directly on the first diamond again and shot the 8 ball in. Go ahead and all it on me again you a$$holes...