((((( Fancy Josswest FS/FT )))))

nateschade

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Fancy older josswest for sale or trade for gina or other high end cue. Cue has around 100 pieces of ivory. 2 shafts 12.7 at 4.0 oz and 12.9 at 4.2oz 5/16 14 piloted ivory joint butt weighs 14.5 , lizard wrap. Cue has seen a lot of play but was very well taken care of. Putting this out looking for around 3200 cash or trade value. my email is nateschade@gmail.com Thanks Nate,
 

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Do You have Any Photo Of The Logo?

You have a very nice looking Szamboti design Bill Stroud cue.......when you said older, I presume this is from Bill's Joss West era rather than his Josswest production period. Do you have any photos of the actual logo Stroud used on the cue butt to help confirm/identify the period when Bill made this cue?
 
Nate,

If you do not see the logo on the buttsleeve, remove the rubber bumper and you will likely find his JW and a serial number engraved on the weight bolt. He did this for a couple of years, from about 1990-1992, and this looks like about when your cue could have been made.

BTW, I lived in Canton for about 10 years, and invested over 5000 hours playing at the College Bowl in the early 1970`s. Likely long gone.

Will Prout
 
It's My Understanding.......

Based upon everything that I've read about Bill Stroud in magazine and Internet articles, as well as the Blue Book of Cues, the logos he used at Joss West & Josswest (Bill changed the name from two words to one word in 1990) are:

1972-1980 Upright J with sideways W
1980-1983 Upright J with Upright W (J had a flat tail to it)
1985-1990 Upright J with Upright W followed by the year (ex., 1992)
1990 -1995 The logo was stamped on the buttplate under the bumper with an Upright J & Upright W including the year ( ex. 1997) & also a 4 digit serial no.
1995 - 2011 Connected, script version JW (upright).

In January 2012, Bill Stroud announced on the Forum that he was officially retired from all cue-making and any cue repairs. That's the history of Bill Stroud's logo on cues and any cues without a logo should be viewed with a dubious eye thus suggesting that the cue needs to be authenticated.

After all is said and done, you really can't soley rely on the looks of the cue or any selller's representations that the cue was indeed genuine (not meaning to suggest or imply the listed cue wasn't).......but there's always the possibility some seller of a collectible cue might have been unknowingly duped in the past. In fact, they may not even know their cue wasn't genuine or original.

The bottomline is this......you just want to be absolutely certain.....do eveything within your power.......to make sure you are "never" the first to learn that the cue you just laid out lots of moola for was not original and authentic.
 
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