Gus or Barry Szamboti?

Matt_24

Matt_24

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Well - I've been doing my homework on pricing - and sometime during the first quarter of next year I want to purchase a Szamboti cue.

If you were buying one to USE and make your main player --- speaking to the guys who use and own Szambotis (and females)......which would you spend the money on? A Gus or Barry?

Thanks.
 
Matt_24 said:
Well - I've been doing my homework on pricing - and sometime during the first quarter of next year I want to purchase a Szamboti cue.

If you were buying one to USE and make your main player --- speaking to the guys who use and own Szambotis (and females)......which would you spend the money on? A Gus or Barry?

Thanks.
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GUS all the way...but i don't own his cue but his a legend:)
 
BARRY

playability--- my preferance

value--------same $ will buy fancier (more collectable) cue

rarity--------IMO Barry's output will fall short of his Dad's
 
Without a doubt a Barry. ribdonor hit it. Look at what Gus's cues are pulling with a total production of around 1200. Barry is still probably a little shy of #500 and he's been building cues longer than his dad.
 
Matt_24 said:
Well - I've been doing my homework on pricing - and sometime during the first quarter of next year I want to purchase a Szamboti cue.

If you were buying one to USE and make your main player --- speaking to the guys who use and own Szambotis (and females)......which would you spend the money on? A Gus or Barry?

Thanks.
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In my opinion if you are looking for collect-ability Barry's cues will never reach the level that his fathers have attained. Today there are too many
great cue makers to choose from, where a collector can put their money for future appreciation. While Barry certainly qualifies as a great Cue maker he is really no different than many other's. To name a few, Paul Mottey, Bill Schick, Pete Tascarella, Dennis Searing, Tad Kohara, Ernie G, and many many others.

To compare Barrys work to His fathers is kinda unfair to Barry. Gus was an innovator who created designs in many cases that were totally new to the craft of cue making. While Barry may make less cues overall during his life time than his father did, he will never over shadow the Genius and the legend his father left behind as cue maker. I also would doubt that Barry would want to do that even if he could.

Oh and by the way in my opinion no cue maker today compares to Gus Szamboti, due to his overall perspective, and his individual genius.

Just my thoughts
 
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Barry

I love the sound, feel and style of Gus' work. The cue I had was solid and supremely accurate, as are the dozen or so other Gus Szamboti cues I have used. Many of my heroes, both pro and local, play with his cues. Gus was the Stratavarius of cuemakers; truly in a class by himself. For what it is worth, however, I prefer Barry's hit all day long. I realized it the first time I used a Barry and my opinion has not changed in the years that followed. Try both and decide for yourself.
 
B A R R Y....

Barry Szamboti My First Choice... (FOR SALE):D
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ribdoner said:
BARRY

playability--- my preferance

value--------same $ will buy fancier (more collectable) cue

rarity--------IMO Barry's output will fall short of his Dad's
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very true. barry has and prob will make less cues.

that being said barry made alot of the points in dads cues. so... thats why he will fall short prob..imo
 
FLYINGSNAIL said:
Barry Szamboti My First Choice... (FOR SALE):D
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Nice cue.

That was one very large lizard. You doing albino Komodo Dragon skin wraps now Kenny? :D
 
barry's gus

the cue to use is the gus that barry uses :)

but it's not for sale ........

and the question can't really be answered by a simple one or the other selection.

there are a finite number of cues out there and within it's very nature of being hand made, they all play marginally different... your individual style of play / stroke would have to ultimately be the factor to decide which cue to acquire ( hoping that when you feel it, it would be for sale )

you simply have to play with as many as you can find and let the right cue choose you...

good luck,
kam
 
Matt_24 said:
Well - I've been doing my homework on pricing - and sometime during the first quarter of next year I want to purchase a Szamboti cue.

If you were buying one to USE and make your main player --- speaking to the guys who use and own Szambotis (and females)......which would you spend the money on? A Gus or Barry?

Thanks.
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My advice to you is to purchase the 1st available Gus or Barry that you like. Then save up the next year and get the other..

You are in a win win situation this way..
There is no bad choice..

Here is my opinion..
Gus is the greatest cuemaker of all time... His cues bring a premium because they are some of the best hitting cues and Gus was ahead of his time with the craftsmanship that he put foward.. There is a certain number of them and value on them will never go down.. ( Great investment)

Barry's cues play as good as any, if not better.. They are made to the highest standards as to be expected from the Szamboti name. (Like Father like Son). I feel Barry has brought the level of craftmanship of the Szamboti name to another level.. His points and inlay work are better then have ever been produced (With all respect).. The value of Barry Szamboti cues are creeping closer to the value of his Dad's.. ( Great investment)

As to the point that Barry will make less cues then his father..
I fully expect Barry to be making cues till he reaches Art Cantando's age.
Then we'll add them all up..:D

Best,
Ken Kerner
Highendcues
 
HighEndCues said:
My advice to you is to purchase the 1st available Gus or Barry that you like. Then save up the next year and get the other..

You are in a win win situation this way..
There is no bad choice..

Here is my opinion..
Gus is the greatest cuemaker of all time... His cues bring a premium because they are some of the best hitting cues and Gus was ahead of his time with the craftsmanship that he put foward.. There is a certain number of them and value on them will never go down.. ( Great investment)

Barry's cues play as good as any, if not better.. They are made to the highest standards as to be expected from the Szamboti name. (Like Father like Son). I feel Barry has brought the level of craftmanship of the Szamboti name to another level.. His points and inlay work are better then have ever been produced (With all respect).. The value of Barry Szamboti cues are creeping closer to the value of his Dad's.. ( Great investment)

As to the point that Barry will make less cues then his father..
I fully expect Barry to be making cues till he reaches Art Cantando's age.
Then we'll add them all up..:D

Best,
Ken Kerner
Highendcues
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Thank you Ken for a good post...A good post for me consists of:
1. the point(s) is/are relevant to the thread
2. presented in a clear, intelligent, reasoned and succinct manner
3. leaves the reader feeling as though they have gained some insight into whatever is being discussed.
Your post does all three.
 
Ken (Highend cues) has said it best. The only thing I would add is that for my "player" as was asked I would say Barry....because there are no more Gus cues being made and you would want to keep the cue safe and sound.

My advice would be to buy three cues at minimum, 2 Gus cues, one to hold and one to shoot with and 1 Barry to do both. Actually the best thing would be 2 Gus and 2 Barry cues......actually buy 3 of each and ........Actually I don't think I can really answer the question!

Hope that helps.

PS, that's a Barry in my avatar.
 
Barry Said the Same Thing

hangemhigh said:
The one thing I am sure of is this: Gus Szamboti made every one of His cues to be played.
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Barry told me in an email that he wants his cues to be played and wants impressions back from the players.
 
hangemhigh said:
The one thing I am sure of is this: Gus Szamboti made every one of His cues to be played.
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I think you could say the same thing about Barry Szamboti!
 
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