Has anybody done this?

pwd72s

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I just finished watching a fun British youtube where an amateur Go-Kart racer put a formula one driver in the same suit & helmet to destroy the other amateurs. It was hysterical. So, why not disguise a top pro pool player and enter him (or her) in a small town low stakes bar tournament? All it would take is a skilled youtuber & a pro willing to do it. I'm not good with computers, by my searching found nothing related to pool. Lots of other "ringer" videos covering football, weight lifting, etc., but no pool. Done right, could be a hoot.
 
When you sign up and they ask your Fargo...

When you are not familiar to the locals and they crowd around to watch every set you play....

When every tournament says "no pros"

The tears when they see you win the first set against " known local hotshot"

Pool is not like other sports
 
While not a pro this guy does travel around and mix in with the locals.

I like his channel.

Attacking8ball on YouTube
 
When you sign up and they ask your Fargo...

When you are not familiar to the locals and they crowd around to watch every set you play....

When every tournament says "no pros"

The tears when they see you win the first set against " known local hotshot"

Pool is not like other sports

Guess you're right...even if money won was given back, some wouldn't like the joke...could become a bad scene. That's too bad.
 
Jeanette Lee went to great ends to disguise herself to take on a man that thought no woman could beat him. He got beaten like a rented mule! Our own JohnnyT went so far as to dress as a woman on occasion to take down a score. Allen Hall went to extremes with disguises. Titanic Thompson was often introduced as somebody's uncle or cousin.

In short the disguise thing has been beaten to death. It is so old it might be new again. Never know until you try!

Hu
 
A in law of mine used to team rope with the Camarillo brothers many years ago , these two were professional ropers who both roped at the National Finals Rodeo and they tried roping at different Indian Reservation Rodeos with him and they were caught in a hurry , this was before tube and the internet even but they both had very different methods and or mannerisms when they roped that gave them away .
Yes he's Indian but they are Mexicans ha ha
 
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Jeanette Lee went to great ends to disguise herself to take on a man that thought no woman could beat him. He got beaten like a rented mule! Our own JohnnyT went so far as to dress as a woman on occasion to take down a score. Allen Hall went to extremes with disguises. Titanic Thompson was often introduced as somebody's uncle or cousin.

In short the disguise thing has been beaten to death. It is so old it might be new again. Never know until you try!

Hu
It's almost like undercover hustling never existed and this is the first time anybody thought of it 🤦‍♂️
 
I just finished watching a fun British youtube where an amateur Go-Kart racer put a formula one driver in the same suit & helmet to destroy the other amateurs. It was hysterical. So, why not disguise a top pro pool player and enter him (or her) in a small town low stakes bar tournament? All it would take is a skilled youtuber & a pro willing to do it. I'm not good with computers, by my searching found nothing related to pool. Lots of other "ringer" videos covering football, weight lifting, etc., but no pool. Done right, could be a hoot.
The problem is that excellence on pool in comparison to how amateurs play, looks very different than when the weightlifter throws up a 400lb bench press while looking like they only have a moderate amount of muscle. An amateur player might not even realize they are severely outclassed for 20-30 shots. If at all.
 
The problem is that excellence on pool in comparison to how amateurs play, looks very different than when the weightlifter throws up a 400lb bench press while looking like they only have a moderate amount of muscle. An amateur player might not even realize they are severely outclassed for 20-30 shots. If at all.
I suppose using the name Willy McCoy might also be too obvious....
 
The problem is that excellence on pool in comparison to how amateurs play, looks very different than when the weightlifter throws up a 400lb bench press while looking like they only have a moderate amount of muscle. An amateur player might not even realize they are severely outclassed for 20-30 shots. If at all.
If done properly, he will never know.
 
Tom from the Palace whom I've mentioned before said many fail to hide their stroke. Self explanatory.
You've got to be able to hide your speed, stroke being a part of that.
One of the main problems I had upon returning to play was those intentional glitches I'd added to disguise my game back then. They become habits. Bad habits, and if you decide to get rid of them, ain't so easy.
 
You've got to be able to hide your speed, stroke being a part of that.
One of the main problems I had upon returning to play was those intentional glitches I'd added to disguise my game back then. They become habits. Bad habits, and if you decide to get rid of them, ain't so easy.
Yeahhh, that was never me. I was always "I am gonna give my all on every stroke, every game."

So much so, that I get extremely annoyed with players that cannot play full bore unless there is money on it. I see them as fundamentally weak mentally. Do I gamble? Certainly. Does it make any difference whatsoever to how I play? Not really. I am either in stroke from practice.. Or I am not.

I have found it to be such a core concept to play full bore 100% of the time, that I believe you can never break through certain plateaus, until you reprogram yourself to make that mental switch. It's "easy enough" to beat 600 level Fargorates, even when laying off a little bit.. But getting past 650+ level players consistently takes a whole other level of execution, that one generally cannot bring, if they haven't built their entire game around that.

I think it is super important.. Because you never really know what you are capable of.. Unless you put yourself through the fire with every trip to the table. If there is a gulf between me and another player, I am giving up spots, whether there be money on it or not. That's how I found out I was capable of running racks of 8 ball one handed on a 9 foot Gold Crown, on my first date with my future wife.

I have never met a decent European player who lays off, just because their opponent doesn't play as well as them. Freeplay.. Tournament.. Gambling.. Doesn't matter. This is a fundamental weakness of the American pool scene, and it's focus on gambling and winning money as a prerequisite for putting in practice time. The action eventually dries up if you get to a 650+ FR, and unless SVB lives locally, you have no reason to improve.
 
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Camarillo brothers
That triggers a memory of playing the brothers a game of partners 8 ball at the H bar B in Oakdale CA. Must have been 1978. The gal I was courting made a 6 pack of Michalob wager as it was last game before close. It was Friday night and I had spent my last dollar on our last drinks. I had never been able to win for money. She told me of the wager as I stood ready to break. I broke and ran. The motivation was extreme. 🤷‍♂️ Hell "the first one to hit the ground buys the beer." Was an H bar B challenge quite often 🤷‍♂️
 
Yeahhh, that was never me. I was always "I am gonna give my all on every stroke, every game."

So much so, that I get extremely annoyed with players that cannot play full bore unless there is money on it. I see them as fundamentally weak mentally. Do I gamble? Certainly. Does it make any difference whatsoever to how I play? Not really. I am either in stroke from practice.. Or I am not.

I have found it to be such a core concept to play full bore 100% of the time, that I believe you can never break through certain plateaus, until you reprogram yourself to make that mental switch. It's "easy enough" to beat 600 level Fargorates, even when laying off a little bit.. But getting past 650+ level players consistently takes a whole other level of execution, that one generally cannot bring, if they haven't built their entire game around that.

I think it is super important.. Because you never really know what you are capable of.. Unless you put yourself through the fire with every trip to the table. If there is a gulf between me and another player, I am giving up spots, whether there be money on it or not. That's how I found out I was capable of running racks of 8 ball one handed on a 9 foot Gold Crown, on my first date with my future wife.

I have never met a decent European player who lays off, just because their opponent doesn't play as well as them. Freeplay.. Tournament.. Gambling.. Doesn't matter. This is a fundamental weakness of the American pool scene, and it's focus on gambling and winning money as a prerequisite for putting in practice time. The action eventually dries up if you get to a 650+ FR, and unless SVB lives locally, you have no reason to improve.

Russ,

Make a habit of betting money you don't have and can't lay hands on immediately after the match. You will find out you haven't been playing 100% every shot after all.

Hu
 
Russ,

Make a habit of betting money you don't have and can't lay hands on immediately after the match. You will find out you haven't been playing 100% every shot after all.

Hu
I don't know about making it a habit......
This book relates a similar situation.

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His escape plan to sneak out through the bathroom window hit a road block. Being backed into a corner will definitely get the fight or flight tickle to the brain.
It ain't fun until it's done.
Being broke doesn't require the POS. Bad decisions or life's issues can lead to the broke situation. Knowing how to survive......is Priceless 🤷‍♂️
 
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