Help, Joint won't tighten

[CaptainHook]

I have a old Cue with a 3/8-10 pin and the Joint will no longer tighten.
The shaft has no insert, the treads are in the wood of the shaft.
I do not know what brand of cue it is, look's like a McDermott copy.
When I screw it together it feels nice & firm as it threads, then when
the shaft & butt joint come together it will not get nice & tight, you can still turn it some.

Can anyone fix this without building a new shaft?

Thank you,
"CH"

 

[Craig Fales]

Are the threads stripped?...if so then the ole' phenolic insert will have to come out...
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[CaptainHook]

Are the threads stripped?...if so then the ole' phenolic insert will have to come out...

Well I looked into the shaft with a flashlight and it looks like the bottom
part of the treads is almost smooth, and the last 1/2 are still there. The strange thing is that it feels nice & snug as I thread it together.

Can you fix it? Will it cost allot?

 

[Craig Fales]

Well I looked into the shaft with a flashlight and it looks like the bottom
part of the treads is almost smooth, and the last 1/2 are still there. The strange thing is that it feels nice & snug as I thread it together.

Can you fix it? Will it cost allot?

Yup, I can fix it....is it 3/8 x 10?
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[CaptainHook]

Yup, I can fix it....is it 3/8 x 10?

Yes 3/8X10 it is a long pin with a tiny hole in the top.

 

[Craig Fales]

PM sent...
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[CaptainHook]

PM sent...

PM sent back.

 

[Matthys]

A quick fix might be to pour some water into the wood threads and let it set for a night. The wood will swell a little and give you back some threads. Done this a lot.

 

[CaptainHook]

A quick fix might be to pour some water into the wood threads and let it set for a night. The wood will swell a little and give you back some threads. Done this a lot.

Thank you, I may have to try that. The Cue was donated to the local Senoir Center by another A-Z member. the guys love shooting with it, but I don't have the money to get it fixed.

Thank you,
"CH"

 

[shakes]

A quick fix might be to pour some water into the wood threads and let it set for a night. The wood will swell a little and give you back some threads. Done this a lot.

Someone has mentioned using liquid wax for this function before, but I would NEVER EVER pour water into a shaft. That is asking for immediate and irreversible trouble. Water is rarely a cue's friend. And certainly not in the amounts that you are talking about here. Here is the thread I'm talking about. The comment you want to read is on the second page, posted by rhncue.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=20768&highlight=liquid+threads

Good luck.

 

[CaptainHook]

Someone has mentioned using liquid wax for this function before, but I would NEVER EVER pour water into a shaft. That is asking for immediate and irreversible trouble. Water is rarely a cue's friend. And certainly not in the amounts that you are talking about here. Here is the thread I'm talking about. The comment you want to read is on the second page, posted by rhncue.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=20768&highlight=liquid+threads

Good luck.

Thanx. I am going to have it fixed over in Tampa by Wayne Ball at Robertsons Billiard supply. He can fix it for $30.00.

 

[cueball1950]

Captain.....was it 1 of the cues i sent you. If so maybe i can get a replacement shaft for it. please let me know...........mike

 

[CaptainHook]

Captain.....was it 1 of the cues i sent you. If so maybe i can get a replacement shaft for it. please let me know...........mike

It was one of the used cues, the black one. As far as the KC cues, one did have a shaft go out. I spoke to Jim and he said to mail it back and he would send a replacement. I mailed it last Friday.

The guys love all the Cues, and they break down the 2-piece cues and lock them up, so the joint on that old cue was getting allot of use.
The reason they lock them up, is cause the discount pharmacy is across from the billiard room, and sometimes they get punks checking the place out looking for stuff to steal, when they come pick up Granny's perscriptions.

I was looking for a A-Z member who could fix it cheap, maybe someone that liked to tinker with Cue builing/Repair as a hobby, but most wanted
$25 to 30 bucks, and with paying shipping both ways, it was not cost effective. So I called Wayne Ball and he said he could do it for $30.00,
so at least I won't have freight charges. He is over in Tampa, so I will take it over to him this Saturday and pick it up on another saturday after he is done with it.

 

[Matthys]

I should clarify with my comment. You don't want to leave the water in the hole. Just pour it in and dump it out. Then let if dry. there will be no side effects. I've done this for years. works great. I have saved guys from replacing many shafts doing this. I"ve also bored out a 1/2 sleeve into the thread end and replaced it with fresh maple and strucural epoxy, face it off and re-tap the hole. Got lots of those out there too. no probkems at all, straight as can be and no change in the hit. Same thing can be done with an phenolic. The Phenolic will lasst longer than wood. You can use PVC for that matter as well. So many ways to do the same thing.

 

[CaptainHook]

I should clarify with my comment. You don't want to leave the water in the hole. Just pour it in and dump it out. Then let if dry. there will be no side effects. I've done this for years. works great. I have saved guys from replacing many shafts doing this. I"ve also bored out a 1/2 sleeve into the thread end and replaced it with fresh maple and strucural epoxy, face it off and re-tap the hole. Got lots of those out there too. no problems at all, straight as can be and no change in the hit. Same thing can be done with an phenolic. The Phenolic will last longer than wood. You can use PVC for that matter as well. So many ways to do the same thing.

Thank you,
I am going to try it this weekend. I have a bad back and really don't want to sit in the car for a 45 minute drive each way to take it over to Tampa.
That is why I just wanted to mail it off to a A-Z member, the receptionist at my office takes care of the mail and I would not have to go anywhere.
Oh yeah, forgot about the price of Gas also.

Thank you for your help.

"CH"

 

[Tiddler]

quick fix

I'd put some bondo in the hole, wrap the screw with teflon plumbers tape and screw it together until the bondo sets and voila brand new threads...

 

[CaptainHook]

I should clarify with my comment. You don't want to leave the water in the hole. Just pour it in and dump it out. Then let if dry. there will be no side effects. I've done this for years. works great. I have saved guys from replacing many shafts doing this. I"ve also bored out a 1/2 sleeve into the thread end and replaced it with fresh maple and strucural epoxy, face it off and re-tap the hole. Got lots of those out there too. no probkems at all, straight as can be and no change in the hit. Same thing can be done with an phenolic. The Phenolic will lasst longer than wood. You can use PVC for that matter as well. So many ways to do the same thing.

I took the Cue home Friday, and Friday night I filled the thread hole with water, and dumped the water out after a minute or so. Saturday around noon, I screwed it on the butt, and it was back to being nice & tight.

Thank you so much for telling me that.

I then took a magic eraser and cleaned up the shaft, polished up the Butt with a soft towel with some Pledge, and it look's brand new.

I will take it back over at lunch time today, and surprise the guys.

Thank you so much,

"CH"