Here Are Your 2007 Mosconi Cup Teams
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lol the soft break format!
considering that the mosconi is a matchroom event like the WPC and they seemed to acknowledge that all this soft breaking was a bit gay, i like to think they will ensure it wont happen again. hopefully
considering that the mosconi is a matchroom event like the WPC and they seemed to acknowledge that all this soft breaking was a bit gay, i like to think they will ensure it wont happen again. hopefully
Just out of curiosity, what constitutes a soft break?
At the U.S. Open, they did away with the soft break by making it a rule that 3 balls had to pass the side pocket on all break. Otherwise, the soft break, with 3 balls not passing the side pocket, would be a foul, BIH to opponent. Can you imagine the outcome of this year's WPC if that rule had been in effect?! It would have been a much different tournament.
I read that organizers of this year's WPC and/or the governing body of this year's WPC was going to use a speed gun at the next WPC to avoid soft breaks. I can see it now, a man squatting down to his knees, holding a speed gun in the breaker's line of vision.
I don't know what I think about the usage of a speed gun. However, they do it in baseball, but for another reason, In baseball, it is to show how hard the player is swinging it!
I do know that I am not a fan of the soft break format. To each their own, I guess. I'd rather watch excellent shot-making skills and a strategic game, as opposed to who's mastered the same exact wing ball going in the same exact pocket.
JAM
At the U.S. Open, they did away with the soft break by making it a rule that 3 balls had to pass the side pocket on all break. Otherwise, the soft break, with 3 balls not passing the side pocket, would be a foul, BIH to opponent. Can you imagine the outcome of this year's WPC if that rule had been in effect?! It would have been a much different tournament.
I read that organizers of this year's WPC and/or the governing body of this year's WPC was going to use a speed gun at the next WPC to avoid soft breaks. I can see it now, a man squatting down to his knees, holding a speed gun in the breaker's line of vision.
I don't know what I think about the usage of a speed gun. However, they do it in baseball, but for another reason, In baseball, it is to show how hard the player is swinging it!
I do know that I am not a fan of the soft break format. To each their own, I guess. I'd rather watch excellent shot-making skills and a strategic game, as opposed to who's mastered the same exact wing ball going in the same exact pocket.
JAM
Pitster said:
I don't think I would like the prize fund to be determined by the hardest break.
Rather, like in football, as an example, the blend of offense and defense, strategically applied throughout the game, would be more my cup of tea.
Though the break is an important ingredient in the game of 9-ball for sure, the break should not be the primary determining factor of who advances and who does not. This is only my opinion. Maybe the break is as thrilling as hitting a grand slam in baseball for some.
JAM
Agreed, the hard break prize fund was more of a joke suggestion,
although the bookies would enjoy the chance to run a book on that one.
For entertainment purposes though, it's great to see powerful controlled breakshots like Bustamante, Feijen and Martel.
Far better than the bird break.
although the bookies would enjoy the chance to run a book on that one.
For entertainment purposes though, it's great to see powerful controlled breakshots like Bustamante, Feijen and Martel.
Far better than the bird break.
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vin said:the speed gun is a great idea but in my opinion it increases the chance of someone getting hit in the head bullseye if someones going to squat in there
One thing for sure, the poor fellow holding the speed gun better get himself a teeth guard, as well as a heavy-duty head helmet.
JAM
Rodney Morris
Can someone explain to me why Rodney Morris is always on the team. I cannot recall one event this year that he was competitive. Stevie Moore for example did win some events and finished high in many events. It would be nice to see the Mosconi Team be filled by people that did something the same year. SVB deserves it for sure. Corey Duel deserves it. The rest of the team is questionable!!!!
JMO
Can someone explain to me why Rodney Morris is always on the team. I cannot recall one event this year that he was competitive. Stevie Moore for example did win some events and finished high in many events. It would be nice to see the Mosconi Team be filled by people that did something the same year. SVB deserves it for sure. Corey Duel deserves it. The rest of the team is questionable!!!!
JMO
Neil said:
I think you answered yourself splendidly making my point!
The break shot is one shot in the game. Why then would the soft break shot elevate a player to win, more so than the other shots in the game?
In the soft break format, Bustamante beat Alex Pagulayan, 11 to 2. Was Alex the inferior player between these two? Was it because of Bustamante's all the shots in the game that made Bustie the winner of that match, or was it the one soft break shot that advanced Bustie over Alex?
If, in fact, the soft break is only one shot, it should not be the determining factor of the triumph. In this year's WPC, the soft break, that one shot, made many players advance in the tournament that would maybe not have advanced if the outcome was determined by the culmination of ALL shots and not just one.
Seeing the same wing ball fly in the same exact pocket over and over again with the soft break was not what I call good pool. Rather, it is the combination of all cuesports skills in a tournament that makes a champion. This year's WPC was the Tournament of Soft Breakers. That's my story, and I am sticking with it.
JAM
UGA330 said:
It is because the men's governing body of professional pool, i.e., UPA, is used as the MAIN measuring stick for most high-profile events, to include the Mosconi Cup.
I won't even get into the qualifications to be a U.S. "touring pro."
This is not meant to take away from Rodney Morris' talents. It just a comment about why some American players are chosen over others.
I think Stevie Moore, Louis Ulrich, Shannon Daulton,and Larry Nevel, as evidenced by their very recent tournament wins, would complement TEAM USA's other members, but there can only be six players. So it is what it is.
Next year, maybe the men's governing body of professional pool will have a better tour and attract fresh and new talent or, in the alternative, talent that exists in the U.S., but didn't pay 100 bucks to join.
JAM
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Jenny
I tend to agree with you until I consider the fact that Daryl Peach's safety knowledge is basically what won the final match for him. Just because he is more proficient with his knowledge about safety play, does that mean he won't be allowed to shoot safeties against an opponent without the same knowledge?
See my argument? If the players have more knowledge about breaking, why should their break be eliminated, therefore punishing them for having more knowledge?
This argument could apply to any specific area of Pool, jump shots, kicking, etc..
As with any specific area, it is 'survival of the fittest' as it has always been in Pool. I bought my first jump cue because I was getting beat with them, and had to learn to jump with one. I learned to kick good a long long time ago because I was getting beat by being hooked for awhile.
I tend to agree with you until I consider the fact that Daryl Peach's safety knowledge is basically what won the final match for him. Just because he is more proficient with his knowledge about safety play, does that mean he won't be allowed to shoot safeties against an opponent without the same knowledge?
See my argument? If the players have more knowledge about breaking, why should their break be eliminated, therefore punishing them for having more knowledge?
This argument could apply to any specific area of Pool, jump shots, kicking, etc..
As with any specific area, it is 'survival of the fittest' as it has always been in Pool. I bought my first jump cue because I was getting beat with them, and had to learn to jump with one. I learned to kick good a long long time ago because I was getting beat by being hooked for awhile.
It is not only the breaking skills that make some players very good at softbreaking. It s the preparation of the table as well. You can't do a reliable soft break without having the tables tapped more or less. I do understand the tapping though, it makes the racking a lot easier and faster. But it does make the game just a little bit more boring.
The Eurotour has applied rules that say 3 balls must cross the headstring or fall in an pocket or it will be considered a dry break. There are many solutions.. I am sure something will happen, all I hear are players complaining about the softbreak, nobody actually like it even though they use it
The Eurotour has applied rules that say 3 balls must cross the headstring or fall in an pocket or it will be considered a dry break. There are many solutions.. I am sure something will happen, all I hear are players complaining about the softbreak, nobody actually like it even though they use it