How would you compare the hit of a Kielwood shaft to the hit of an LD shaft like the Jacoby Edge Hybrid shafts?

[9ballscorpion]

How would you compare the hit of a Kielwood shaft to the hit of an LD shaft like the Jacoby Edge Hybrid shafts?

Do you think the hit of those 2 types of shafts are very different, and in what way?

I been wanting to try out a Kielwood shaft for a long time, but just wonder if the hit on them has any similarities to some of the popular LD shafts on the market.

Asking about a comparison with the Jacoby LD shafts, because they are my favorite.

I also really loved my experience with the Mezz Hybrid Pro 2 shaft, with Wavy threads, so does the hit of Kielwood compare at all with those shafts?

Thank you for any thoughts that you have about Kielwood shafts, and if you have a favorite cue maker who builds them.

 

[ribdoner]

How would you compare the hit of a Kielwood shaft to the hit of an LD shaft like the Jacoby Edge Hybrid shafts?

Do you think the hit of those 2 types of shafts are very different, and in what way?

I been wanting to try out a Kielwood shaft for a long time, but just wonder if the hit on them has any similarities to some of the popular LD shafts on the market.

Asking about a comparison with the Jacoby LD shafts, because they are my favorite.

Thank you for any thoughts, if you have played with both types in the past.

i've only had one Kielwood shaft so i'm far from an authority, that said my take away:

the kielwood shaft didn't have the "dynamics" of the Jacoby EHB shafts i've owned so do you like steady and predictable or are you capable of handling something a little more on the wild side, another way to look at it is that steady and predictable will require a better stroke on some shots

again this is based on test driving a Kiewood shaft for about 2 hrs

i gave the Jacoby shafts a longer trial and put them up because i was more comfortable with solid, quality maple shafts

GL and hit m str8

 

[9ballscorpion]

i've only had one Kielwood shaft so i'm far from an authority, that said my take away:

the kielwood shaft didn't have the "dynamics" of the Jacoby EHB shafts i've owned so do you like steady and predictable or are you capable of handling something a little more on the wild side, another way to look at it is that steady and predictable will require a better stroke on some shots

again this is based on test driving a Kiewood shaft for about 2 hrs

i gave the Jacoby shafts a longer trial and put them up because i was more comfortable with solid, quality maple shafts

GL and hit m str8

Thank you. So, do you think the Kielwood had a very stiff hit, compared to other regular maple shafts? Do you feel that the hit is more like an LD shaft, like Predator or Jacoby Edge Hybrid, or do you feel that the hit is more like a standard maple shaft? Or was the hit just very unique in its own unique way? Thanks.

 

[garczar]

Jacoby i have has a really soft hit. Nothing like the k'wood shafts i've tried. Kielwood was stiffer and had kind of a weird 'tonky' hit. Also pretty light and it made cue feel butt heavy to me. You'll just need to try one out.

 

[ribdoner]

Thank you. So, do you think the Kielwood had a very stiff hit, compared to other regular maple shafts? Do you feel that the hit is more like an LD shaft, like Predator or Jacoby Edge Hybrid, or do you feel that the hit is more like a standard maple shaft? Or was the hit just very unique in its own unique way? Thanks.

Kielwood was stiffer that maple of the same diameter, hit more like a solid maple shaft but unique in it's own right

That said i like stiff shafts and thi.nking about getting a custom KIELWOOD shaft with a longer SZAM type taper, 12.75 +- mm, quality tip between soft and med hard

 

[garczar]

Kielwood was stiffer that maple of the same diameter, hit more like a solid maple shaft but unique in it's own right

That said i like stiff shafts and thi.nking about getting a custom KIELWOOD shaft with a longer SZAM type taper, 12.75 +- mm, quality tip between soft and med hard

If you want to keep same balance/feel you might get a longer shaft. Every k'wood shaft i've seen(about 6) have all been pretty light.

 

[JohnnyOzone]

Bob Danielson makes a really good LD Kielwood shaft. Need to get 30" due to weight

 

[MTfish]

I just got an OB Phoenix shaft last week. The other "LD" shaft I have the most experience with is a Meucci Black Dot, and I would say the OB Phoenix hits noticeably stiffer than the Meucci shaft, and stiffer than other LD shafts I've hit balls with, and just as stiff or stiffer than normal wood shafts. I play a lot with old Hueblers and a Schon, so that's what I'm comparing it to with standard shafts. The description of the hit being "tonky" is a very good one.

It is lighter (about 3.5 ounces with 5/16x18 insert and 12.8 mm tip, compared to 4+ ounces on my other shafts with that insert) and that moves the balance back. I have to question the advice I keep seeing given to buy an inch longer shaft to move the balance point forward. It will do this when you balance the cue on one finger, but if you maintain the same bridge length with the longer shaft, it's just going to move the heaviest part of the cue back an inch when you're actually playing. Maybe I'm missing something.

Other than it being lower in deflection that my other shafts, I don't find it "weird" to play with. Less so than other LD shafts I've tried. I'm not really an equipment junky, though so I don't have a lot of experience with other LD shafts and that's very subjective anyway. I do like the OB shaft and it's my player for now. Good luck with whatever you decide.

 

[terpdad]

I have both a Predator 314-3 & a kielwood shaft. IMO, the Predator isn't nearly as "dead" as many seem to think. I played w/ it for over a year & like it. Got a new cue w/ k'wood shaft a couple weeks ago. So far, I can say I'm still adjusting to it (it has a different tip & I'm sure that's part of it) but I can say the hit does feel stiffer & resonates more. Is it any better than the Predator? No, but it's no worse. I plan to keep it b/c it's something a little different, it's both a throwback & something new at the same time, it plays just as well, it's cheaper than a top-quality LD shaft, & it looks better on my new cue. I really like my kielwood shaft, but I don't know that I would tell someone to sell what they have to get one or that I'll never try anything else.

 

[PhilosopherKing]

I thought ”cooking” the wood just brings out the qualities of a broken-in and well-seasoned shaft, and that any LD qualities would depend on the construction i.e. front-end mass.

I have a full-keilwood ( butt and shaft) cue on the way and will report back when I get it.

 

[Stew boo]

I have hit with a Dayton old growth shaft, definitely stiffer than regular maple. Has similar qualities to a low deflection shaft like a Predator 314, Personally I prefer regular maple because it has more feel and flex. It really just depends on what tickles your peach.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

I thought ”cooking” the wood just brings out the qualities of a broken-in and well-seasoned shaft, and that any LD qualities would depend on the construction i.e. front-end mass.

I have a full-keilwood ( butt and shaft) cue on the way and will report back when I get it.

I think the theory is that most/all of the moisture and "sugar" is cooked out, which lightens the wood overall. That would reduce squirt - I don't know how much. On the video I saw it sounded tonky alright, almost hollow sounding - I think that's a sign it's less dense.

pj
chgo

 

[Scratch85]

314-2 is my regular playing shaft. I have also played with the OB Phoenix. The Kiel wood shaft plays stiffer than the 314-2. It did not seem to be anywhere near the LD of the 314-2. It also felt very light and made the cue feel butt heavy. Compared to standard maple, both shafts have a dead feel to them but the Kiel wood didn’t feel as dead as the 314-2.

I know the above description is very subjective, making it ambiguous, but it is my .02. Hope it helps.


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[9ballscorpion]

314-2 is my regular playing shaft. I have also played with the OB Phoenix. The Kiel wood shaft plays stiffer than the 314-2. It did not seem to be anywhere near the LD of the 314-2. It also felt very light and made the cue feel butt heavy. Compared to standard maple, both shafts have a dead feel to them but the Kiel wood didn’t feel as dead as the 314-2.

I know the above description is very subjective, making it ambiguous, but it is my .02. Hope it helps.


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I really like this reply. It makes sense to me. Thank you.

I remember when the 1st Predator Z shaft came out, and I believe it had like a 11.75mm tip, with a Conical taper in the shaft. Dead seems like a very good term for the way that shaft hit, to me. I could not play with it.

 

[Undercoverpoolplayer18]

I have a hsunami shaft I love it best money I’ve ever spent plus I do shoot with an Ob-1+ and a Jacoby EH all three get great action but for me it’s a tie between Ob and Hsunami just the overall feel and hit of the Hsunami is superb IMO

 

[markjames]

i live in brooklyn so it was easy for me
to try out a tsunami kielwood shaft
from somebody

i tried it i loved it
i ordered one and
now that i am playing
with it i cannot say enough
good things

i don’t have enough experience with
other LD shafts to compare and speak
intelligently about the whys and all

but for me and my game it’s pretty much
before tsunami kielwood and after

 

[phreaticus]

I recently got a 29” custom Hsunami to see what Keilwood was all about. Its gorgeous & exceptionally well made. Interestingly it feels & plays almost exactly like my Cynergy CF, with a slightly different tone. Deflection wise, I’d say its more of a medium LD. Its a 29” 12.5 mm with 1/2” ferrule which is what I prefer, it is pretty light at 3.3 oz…

Its great but offers no real advantage over my Cynergy which I’ve already gotten in tune with so I’ll probably sell it if anyone is interested, PM me.

 

[Undercoverpoolplayer18]

i live in brooklyn so it was easy for me
to try out a tsunami kielwood shaft
from somebody

i tried it i loved it
i ordered one and
now that i am playing
with it i cannot say enough
good things

i don’t have enough experience with
other LD shafts to compare and speak
intelligently about the whys and all

but for me and my game it’s pretty much
before tsunami kielwood and after

I have Harry Krugelstein sneaky Pete the shaft that came it was dead on accurate and it wasn’t a low deflection according to the Late Mr.Krugelstein but it was lights out

 

[Jaden]

How would you compare the hit of a Kielwood shaft to the hit of an LD shaft like the Jacoby Edge Hybrid shafts?

Do you think the hit of those 2 types of shafts are very different, and in what way?

I been wanting to try out a Kielwood shaft for a long time, but just wonder if the hit on them has any similarities to some of the popular LD shafts on the market.

Asking about a comparison with the Jacoby LD shafts, because they are my favorite.

I also really loved my experience with the Mezz Hybrid Pro 2 shaft, with Wavy threads, so does the hit of Kielwood compare at all with those shafts?

Thank you for any thoughts that you have about Kielwood shafts, and if you have a favorite cue maker who builds them.

I had a kielwood shaft on a jacoby. I only used it as a break cue and I shattered the ah shaft.

Jaden

 

[Undercoverpoolplayer18]

I have Harry Krugelstein sneaky Pete the shaft that came it was dead on accurate and it wasn’t a low deflection according to the Late Mr.Krugelstein but it was lights out

I had a kielwood shaft on a jacoby. I only used it as a break cue and I shattered the ah shaft.

Jaden

That’s because they’re meant for shooters not breakers if I’m not mistaken