How would you compare the hit of a Kielwood shaft to the hit of an LD shaft like the Jacoby Edge Hybrid shafts?

[Jaden]

That’s because they’re meant for shooters not breakers if I’m not mistaken

Yeah, it broke great until it broke. I've shattered standard shafts too, I just break super hard.

Jaden

 

[Undercoverpoolplayer18]

Lol Purple Heart shaft or Diamondwood if you want to stay wood or you might have to go Carbon fiber break cue or shaft

 

[boogieman]

I had a Hsunami kielwood shaft and did like it. I was still adapting to LD of any kind. I gave up and sold it. I later bought a Diviney with a kielwood shaft and played long enough to actually get onto LD.

I've since played with the Hsunami again and can see it is a very good shaft but it feels a bit muted compared to my Diviney. It could be down to the fact that I am playing with a Zan GripHard on the Kamui and the Hsunami was a hard milkdud. Both are very good shafts. They feel very precise but somehow less clinical feeling than the one CF I tried for a few shots.

Both products will serve a player well but personally I'd give a slight advantage to the Diviney shaft. It seems to play a bit stiffer and a touch more LD which I like.

 

[Undercoverpoolplayer18]

I had a Hsunami kielwood shaft and did like it. I was still adapting to LD of any kind. I gave up and sold it. I later bought a Diviney with a kielwood shaft and played long enough to actually get onto LD.

I've since played with the Hsunami again and can see it is a very good shaft but it feels a bit muted compared to my Diviney. It could be down to the fact that I am playing with a Zan GripHard on the Kamui and the Hsunami was a hard milkdud. Both are very good shafts. They feel very precise but somehow less clinical feeling than the one CF I tried for a few shots.

Both products will serve a player well but personally I'd give a slight advantage to the Diviney shaft. It seems to play a bit stiffer and a touch more LD which I like.

The Diveney is my next purchase trans-K in radial pin I think will serve it’s purpose

 

[hang-the-9]

Thank you. So, do you think the Kielwood had a very stiff hit, compared to other regular maple shafts? Do you feel that the hit is more like an LD shaft, like Predator or Jacoby Edge Hybrid, or do you feel that the hit is more like a standard maple shaft? Or was the hit just very unique in its own unique way? Thanks.

The hit feel is in the taper, diameter, wood grade, tip, ferrule, not really just the fact the wood is roasted. It's all in how the shaft is put together overall. I have shot with over 10 different keilwood shafts, 4-5 custom ones made by a local cuemaker, a few OB ones and a few Hsunami ones. Maybe 1/3rd of those I liked enough to play with along with a few normal LD maple shafts and my Revo. The hit feel I can't tell too much difference from the standard maple LD shafts I have, they are a bit stiffer to me, but maybe by like 10-15%. That could be from the taper variations and natural wood differences as much as anything else though.

It depends on the type of hit you like, the OB and the Hsunami are a bit too whippy for me, but from reading the posts people that liked the softer more flexible shafts like the 314-2 or the OB1 liked them. The custom shafts I have are stiffer like the Z3 shafts, that is what I am comfortable with, and I like those better.

I played with the Edge Hybrid, to me it was not a good shaft at all compared to most others, too stiff and dead feeling and the LD properties were a bit odd, could not get much action out of the cueball with it. Almost all the keilwood shafts I tried I liked better.

 

[Undercoverpoolplayer18]

The hit feel is in the taper, diameter, wood grade, tip, ferrule, not really just the fact the wood is roasted. It's all in how the shaft is put together overall. I have shot with over 10 different keilwood shafts, 4-5 custom ones made by a local cuemaker, a few OB ones and a few Hsunami ones. Maybe 1/3rd of those I liked enough to play with along with a few normal LD maple shafts and my Revo. The hit feel I can't tell too much difference from the standard maple LD shafts I have, they are a bit stiffer to me, but maybe by like 10-15%. That could be from the taper variations and natural wood differences as much as anything else though.

It depends on the type of hit you like, the OB and the Hsunami are a bit too whippy for me, but from reading the posts people that liked the softer more flexible shafts like the 314-2 or the OB1 liked them. The custom shafts I have are stiffer like the Z3 shafts, that is what I am comfortable with, and I like those better.

I played with the Edge Hybrid, to me it was not a good shaft at all compared to most others, too stiff and dead feeling and the LD properties were a bit odd, could not get much action out of the cueball with it. Almost all the keilwood shafts I tried I liked better.

No wonder why I like them them because I like the Ob1 and 314-2 lol both shafts are great the Z shafts I could never get used to it

 

[DJKeys]

i live in brooklyn so it was easy for me
to try out a tsunami kielwood shaft
from somebody

i tried it i loved it
i ordered one and
now that i am playing
with it i cannot say enough
good things

i don’t have enough experience with
other LD shafts to compare and speak
intelligently about the whys and all

but for me and my game it’s pretty much
before tsunami kielwood and after

I tried most every type of CF shaft, and although I liked the Cynergy the best, I decided to get the Hsunami shaft from Richard Hsu. His shafts are not lighter than a normal shaft and the entire order is custom. I have to say it is a fantastic shaft with lot of feedback (which I prefer) and is a maple shaft with no hollow space in it.

 

[DJKeys]

I thought ”cooking” the wood just brings out the qualities of a broken-in and well-seasoned shaft, and that any LD qualities would depend on the construction i.e. front-end mass.

I have a full-keilwood ( butt and shaft) cue on the way and will report back when I get it.

Actually, the torrefaction process removes all the moisture from the shaft. This is what makes the mass less.

-dj

 

[RickLafayette]

The torrification process also hardens the wood. If you sharpen a stick (like a spear) and place the point in a fire the point will get harder and stay sharper longer and be less prone to damage. I've accidently hit the side of my kiel wood shaft on the metal edge of a Valley table and there was no mark whatsoever. If it had been a standard maple shaft there certainly would have been a ding on the shaft. I played CF shafts extensively for about 5 years and I just missed the feel of a wood shaft hit. The kiel wood shaft fit my niche perfectly. I also think it looks better on my traditional cues better than a CF.