I believe everyone is mistaken about the top 100

stevelomako

stevelomako

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The top 100......TOUR CARD HOLDERS......keep their cards for 2007



Players that get into tournaments via QUALIFIERS cannot win a Tour Card by being in the top 100 in money standings.


The only thing the QUALIFIER PLAYERS are eligible for, is the KOH Tournament where the #2 thru 41 in money winnings play to meet the number 1 money winner in the finals. The KING OF THE HILL could possibly be someone without a Tour card.

It would be even funnier if it was.......and then after, they couldn't win a tour card qualifier. How nice would that look?




Remember......ONLY......the top 100.....TOUR CARD HOLDERS.....keep their card.

Everyone else has to play in the Tour card qualifier tournament at the end of the year to earn one of the 50 available cards.
 
I don't think it works like that. I've spoken with the IPT staff at the tournament, and the top 100 prize money winners, WIN a 2007 card. I even asked if it was possible for more than 50 to lose their cards. He said YES. More than 50 can lose their cards if qualifiers do very well.


Think of it like this. No one loses a card or keeps a card. A card is only good for a year. So all 150 players lose their cards, but the top 100 prize money winners, whomever they are - players or qualifiers, win a 2007 card.


If the IPT does it the way you describe, the IPT is going to lose a lot of face with a lot of people. So much for their "best players in the world" rhetoric.



All of these controversies are a result of KT's early descriptions and explainations of how the IPT would work, and he always would describe the IPT in terms of being the 150 best. Not in the context that the IPT early on would have a lot of players coming in and going out till it stabilizes into the REAL 150 best.


Real rules, real money, real pool? Heh...how about real players?
 
You're 100% certain it works like this?


What makes you so certain? Please share.

There's at least 50-75 players who qualified or are in the process who would really like to know....
 
Bola Ocho is right. Unfortunately for me because I played so poorly at the first IPT event that I am one of those in danger of losing my card. If I only had to compete with the members I wouldn't be stressed right now. KT has stated clearly on several occasions that a qualifyer can earn a card over a member. I am guessing only 70-80 members will retain their cards.
 
stevelomako said:
The top 100......TOUR CARD HOLDERS......keep their cards for 2007

Players that get into tournaments via QUALIFIERS cannot win a Tour Card by being in the top 100 in money standings....
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Stevelomako, I do understand your confusion. I was very disappointed that the wives and girlfriends were not allowed in the players' meeting in Vegas. I only found out recently from my counterpart about a few topics which were discussed which I had not known about. On a upbeat note, next year the players in the top 100 will receive a VISA card worth $20,000 to help with initial traveling expenses. Nice little bonus, IMHO.

The qualifier players most certainly can get their tour card, Stevelomako. So that's a good thing too. As an example, Dave Matlock and Larry Nevel, who each earned 30 grand in Vegas and were qualifier players, are assured their tour card for 2007, even if they never play in another IPT event this year.

Also, originally, before the cancellation of this year's England stop, there were FOUR IPT events in which one could accumulate ranking. Two of them will have a 200-player field, 150 IPT members and 50 qualifier players. The remaining two will be limited to 150 IPT members, no qualifier players allowed.

Hope all is well with you and yours! See you in the Windy City at the IPT event, I hope! :)

JAM
 
JAM
Stevelomako, I do understand your confusion. I was very disappointed that the wives and girlfriends were not allowed in the players' meeting in Vegas.
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JAM, whats all the cloak and dagger stuff about? You should make yourself Ks agent and insist you be present.
So,.......... certain players can now loan money on their new credit card! Mmmmmmmmm.

I think next years IPT membership will be at least 10 grand, maybe 20. After all, you have a guaranteed 100 back!

Gabber
 
Gabber said:
JAM, whats all the cloak and dagger stuff about? You should make yourself Ks agent and insist you be present.
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LOL! :D I was disappointed that the wives/significant others and those with a VESTED INTEREST were not allowed in the players' meeting in Vegas. I very much wanted to learn what was going on with the IPT Tour and still do not know what information was given at the meeting. As I function in several roles -- significant other, manager, travel agent, backer, chauffeur, secretary, housekeeping aide, cook, tailor, and financial agent for accounts receivable and accounts payable -- I truly felt left out of the loop.

Gabber said:
So,.......... certain players can now loan money on their new credit card! Mmmmmmmmm.
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I don't understand why "certain players can now loan money on their new credit card." Why would anyone loan money via a credit card?

Gabber said:
I think next years IPT membership will be at least 10 grand, maybe 20. After all, you have a guaranteed 100 back!
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What will be 10 grand or maybe 20? Do you mean membership fees for the IPT?

JAM
 
JAM said:
LOL! :D I was disappointed that the wives/significant others and those with a VESTED INTEREST were not allowed in the players' meeting in Vegas. I very much wanted to learn what was going on with the IPT Tour and still do not know what information was given at the meeting. As I function in several roles -- significant other, manager, travel agent, backer, chauffeur, secretary, housekeeping aide, cook, tailor, and financial agent for accounts receivable and accounts payable -- I truly felt left out of the loop.



I don't understand why "certain players can now loan money on their new credit card." Why would anyone loan money via a credit card?



What will be 10 grand or maybe 20? Do you mean membership fees for the IPT?

JAM
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Yip, why not? You get a 100 grand back- a win of 90/80 grand!!!!!

A credit card is just that- credit. You have to pay it back.

G
 
stevelomako said:
The top 100......TOUR CARD HOLDERS......keep their cards for 2007

Players that get into tournaments via QUALIFIERS cannot win a Tour Card by being in the top 100 in money standings.
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If you will go to this link and scroll down to $1500 entry fee and read what is there you will see that qualifiers can win a tour card for 2007.

http://www.internationalpooltour.com/ipt_content/event_qualifiers/na_06_open_default.asp

The top 100 players ranked by amount of money won will get their 2007 cards.

Jake
 
I think it is confusing because in the beginning that is what they said, but then a lot of things changed when they started adding Qualifier's to the mix. As I recall in early info posted, they were going to allow anyone who wanted to pay the entry into the "Open" events...the Q'ers I think were a later idea after the massive success of the tour card tournaments.
As we all know a lot of things with the IPT have changed, I think it is just them figuring it out as they go...
 
Steve,

How are ya? Hope things are well......anything going on at the Rack for tourneys in the next month or so? Feel free to PM me if needed.

Thanks.

Perk
 
stevelomako said:
They need to update the site then because they have conflicting information.
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Heh. As a web developer of ten years, I think I can safely say that that is the NORMAL STATE of most websites. :D
 
stevelomako said:
They need to update the site then because they have conflicting information.
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Was that a very discreet and quiet slipping of the gearshift into reverse that I just heard?:D

Steve,you must have been locked in a dark cupboard for the last 3 weeks not to have seen any of the hundreds of previous posts on the subject of the top 100 and on the subject of how they will select who gets automatic entry into the end of season qualifying event......but the certainty of all the top 100 definitely getting a card,whether they are qualifiers or existing card holders has been crystal clear for quite a long time now.

You are right about the website,it needs an overhaul to remove all these blips:)
 
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memikey said:
Was that a very discreet and quiet slipping of the gearshift into reverse that I just heard?:D

Steve,you must have been locked in a dark cupboard for the last 3 weeks not to have seen any of the hundreds of previous posts on the subject of the top 100 and on the subject of how they will select who gets automatic entry into the end of season qualifying event......but the certainty of all the top 100 definitely getting a card,whether they are qualifiers or existing card holders has been crystal clear for quite a long time now.

You are right about the website,it needs an overhaul to remove all these blips:)
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I'm still going by what I said because that's the info that's still on the site.

As a matter of fact, they just e-mailed Friday (8/11/06) the same info I stated, so I don't know??????????
 
stevelomako said:
I'm still going by what I said because that's the info that's still on the site.

As a matter of fact, they just e-mailed Friday (8/11/06) the same info I stated, so I don't know??????????
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:D Do you mean Deno's circular e mail of 11th August regarding how the money list placings are defined?

If yes,that e mail clearly says....."click here to see how non-ipt tour members can still qualify for a place on the tour money list.....AND A 2007 TOUR CARD":)
 
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I don't see why any of the original 150 "appointed" members should be
squabbling about competing with qualifier winners.

The top 100 in the money is the top 100, period.

There seems to be some sort of eltism mentality within the original 150, small man syndrome and insecurity if you ask me.
 
smashmouth said:
I don't see why any of the original 150 "appointed" members should be
squabbling about competing with qualifier winners.

The top 100 in the money is the top 100, period.

There seems to be some sort of eltism mentality within the original 150, small man syndrome and insecurity if you ask me.
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The original 150 includes many that are not high calibur players. The winners of the qualifiers are high calibur players. It makes perfect sense for someone to be less than thrilled with this change. :rolleyes:

smashmouth, just out of curiosity (I'm not being mean or a smart aleck) A couple of your posts just got me curious... Where are you in the food chain of pool? Are you someone that simply enjoys the game and maybe plays in a league? Are you someone that plays in tournaments? Do you know or are you friends with any pro players? There is no "wrong" answer, I'm just trying to see where your fit is in the pool world to better understand some of your posts, that's all. Thanks.
 
Another IPT website discrepency

I noticed a couple of comments in this thread about the IPT website possibly being wrong or out of date regarding tour cards. Did anyone notice several players at the Venitian had fouls called on them for moving the cue ball with thier cue when they had ball in hand (I think Allison was one of them) BUT, on the IPT website they have a page with their "official rules" and in those rules it states you MAY move the cueball with your cue. Does anyone know whats going on here?
 
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