Inlaid carbon fibre cues

justnum

Billiards Improvement Research Projects Associate
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You could put a hygrometer in there while you're at it.

I was hoping for an internal temperature control system for my cue.

sweaty hands, I push button and the condensation evaporates.

if its a cold room, push another button and the cue warms up.

I think a cold cue is stronger than a warm cue
 

CocoboloCowboy

Cowboys are my hero's
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To me the basic look of Carbon Fibre is pretty cool, do not think inlay are going to make a Carbon Fibre Cue play better. It's just adds bling, that add nothing to the play ability.
 

justnum

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To me the basic look of Carbon Fibre is pretty cool, do not think inlay are going to make a Carbon Fibre Cue play better. It's just adds bling, that add nothing to the play ability.

looking the part of a hustler is just as essential as table equipment.

you trying to say cue makers made a sneaky pete so players can hunt or keep it at home? Just the name of the cue is inspiring.

A CF cue makes me feel like the cue would be useful if some protestors attacked anyone or any of my favorite pool rooms... I would find new ways to a cue a stick.

If the wood breaks I don't want to leave splinters. Carbon fiber requires more advanced forensics
 

skins

Likes to draw
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most inlays of 1/2 inch wide or wider are .120-.140 in depth to allow for the curve of the cue.

Smaller inlays could be .030-.040 and still would be fine.

Carbon fiber is 1-2 mm in thickness(.039-.078 thickness).

It appears that one would need some sort of backing to inlay a carbon fiber cue. Backing would add weight which may or may not be a good thing.

I would not want to inlay into carbon fiber without some type backing below the inlay.

Inlays can be radial or "wrapped" so the 1/2" limitation is a non issue.. The biggest issue IMO, as I've eluded to in my previous post, is the carbon fiber dust created from milling... Again, No Thanks
 

iusedtoberich

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I don't know enough about the process, but could inlays be "laid in" while the carbon fiber tube is manufactured? Using perhaps another color or grain direction of carbon fiber? So not traditional wood inlays, but rather a new concept. I'm just brainstorming here...
 

conetip

AzB Silver Member
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The best way would actually be done in the layup. Then the fibres are not cut to put in the inlays, but become part of the matrix.
 

ceebee

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Just use Decals..

If you want fancy, the sky is the limit with decals & then put a few coats on top of that, for protection & you too can have a fancy Cue...

My Cue ain't Fancy, but it shoots straight...
 

hang-the-9

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I don't think the design or use of the butt part of the cue will benefit from using different materials. There is very little worry about dings in the butt compared to those in the shaft you can feel while using it and the rear of the cue has 0 impact on shaft performance so material used there is for balance, looks and feel of the hit. None of those would be improved by using CF. I hate change just because it's a change, working in IT I see that often, someone does a change just because it's new or someone else is doing it and all it does is cause new issues, almost never an actual worthwhile improvement and a lot of times there is not only no improvement it actually makes things worse for the people using the hardware or software. It's a solution in search of a problem.
 

LWD

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FYI: BeCue out of Italy only makes full carbon fiber cues, and has been doing so for almost two years now. As far as I know, only GO cues in US makes a completely CF cue. BeCue does offer different paint schemes on their cues.

I think your question is a good one. What you have to give up when you switch to all CF is all the beautiful design work that cuemakers put on the butts of their cues. I would love it if we could have highly designed CF butts. (I use a BeCue myself.) I bet somebody will figure out a way before long.
 

Quesports

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FYI: BeCue out of Italy only makes full carbon fiber cues, and has been doing so for almost two years now. As far as I know, only GO cues in US makes a completely CF cue. BeCue does offer different paint schemes on their cues.

I think your question is a good one. What you have to give up when you switch to all CF is all the beautiful design work that cuemakers put on the butts of their cues. I would love it if we could have highly designed CF butts. (I use a BeCue myself.) I bet somebody will figure out a way before long.

Thanks for the info. I knew about Becue but have never heard of Go cues. I'll look them up.
Nothing will ever replace the beauty of wood, it is so unique to each piece. But I still believe we will see cues evolve and for now carbon fiber seems t be where is is going. Along with that companies will start to experiment how to add inlays, colors and who knows what to embellish them and make them more desirable. Look at cues today. Collectors look for different things in their search for things to collect. I have two stunning cues and several plain ones. The lookers are so much fun. People have called me over from 25 feet away to look over my cues.. Yep it's fun. I bet carbon fiber cues will become just as audacious!!
 

justnum

Billiards Improvement Research Projects Associate
Silver Member
I am familiar with a solution. See the diagram

Higher end versions of this exists.

But in another thread I was laughed off the forum for suggesting sticker decals made of actual inlay material.

Etching the carbon would not be needed for heat bonding. Just don't know the reaction to the CF and inlay being bonded under load.

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most inlays of 1/2 inch wide or wider are .120-.140 in depth to allow for the curve of the cue.Smaller inlays could be .030-.040 and still would be fine.Carbon fiber is 1-2 mm in thickness(.039-.078 thickness).It appears that one would need some sort of backing to inlay a carbon fiber cue. Backing would add weight which may or may not be a good thinI would not want to inlay into carbon fiber without some type backing below the inlay.
 

hang-the-9

AzB Silver Member
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Thanks for the info. I knew about Becue but have never heard of Go cues. I'll look them up.
Nothing will ever replace the beauty of wood, it is so unique to each piece. But I still believe we will see cues evolve and for now carbon fiber seems t be where is is going. Along with that companies will start to experiment how to add inlays, colors and who knows what to embellish them and make them more desirable. Look at cues today. Collectors look for different things in their search for things to collect. I have two stunning cues and several plain ones. The lookers are so much fun. People have called me over from 25 feet away to look over my cues.. Yep it's fun. I bet carbon fiber cues will become just as audacious!!

Paint or stickers on a CF cue will not be the same for being desirable as a wood cue done by a craftsman. Having a thick CF butt made for someone to carve out inlays just seems silly and odd, and stickers or paint on a cue is more graphic design than anything else.
 

rhinobywilhite

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Inlays can be radial or "wrapped" so the 1/2" limitation is a non issue.. The biggest issue IMO, as I've eluded to in my previous post, is the carbon fiber dust created from milling... Again, No Thanks

I am well aware of 4th axis wrapping.

Problem remains the same as you have a total of .039 on most cf shafts and up to .078 for some no-name shafts.

Cut that carbon fiber down with any depth inlay and see how well the carbon fiber deals with this weakened area.

Be my guest- post photos when you get one made.
 
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