Irish verses Hurlbert Linen for wraps
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olgoat said:
Hurlbert is just a brand name. Very good linen btw. Presses very smooth.
olgoat said:
Got some pictures? I would like to see the wood, rings etc. before making a recomedation.
Murray
The only pictures I have are in my head and they are a little foggy... I was going to order a mid range cue and was trying to go through the details. Pretty daunting..
The usual Black with white spec or white with black spec never seems to look good to me on a cocobolo but and point cue. Seemed like a bronze color would go better. From the atlas billiard site the difference between walnut/black and black/walnut is very subtle. Just curious if it was equally subtle in real life.
Thanks again for the reply. I appreciate it. BTW, that is some pretty coco on the sneaky pete on your site. Very pretty.
Tim
The only pictures I have are in my head and they are a little foggy... I was going to order a mid range cue and was trying to go through the details. Pretty daunting..
The usual Black with white spec or white with black spec never seems to look good to me on a cocobolo but and point cue. Seemed like a bronze color would go better. From the atlas billiard site the difference between walnut/black and black/walnut is very subtle. Just curious if it was equally subtle in real life.
Thanks again for the reply. I appreciate it. BTW, that is some pretty coco on the sneaky pete on your site. Very pretty.
Tim
olgoat said:
I did a black/walnut on a ebony/bocote cue one time. I thought it looked like a dirty black/white wrap when it was done. I very rarely do linen on my cues so my knowlege on the colors is pretty limited. The repair guys like Mike Webb, Ted Harris or Blud who wrap more cues in a month than I have in my lifetime would be better to ask than me.
The first color in the linen's name is the predominant color. If the brown is a little less than a perfect match, it works better to have black or white as the predominant color. If the match is off a little, it does not stand-out like a sore thumb. If the match is a good one, then go with the brown with black. It helps if you can hold the spools next to the cue, to see how well they compliment the wood.olgoat said:
Tracy
First of all, picking colors off of an internet site is very tricky. Colors are not always rendered accurately, especially with some of the small differences between the different wrap materials. It would be better if you could see them in person and make your choice.olgoat said:
I have two coco cues, one is the red type and one is the brown type.
IMHO, I wouldn't use black with either of them. But again, that is JMHO.
I prefer the white with brown speck, with either. However, as you may have noticed, on the Atlas site, they have the white with either a brown or a walnut brown, in the "Genuine Irish Linen". They only have the white with walnut brown in the "Hurlbert Irish Linen". This is where the differences will be very slight and it would be best to see them in person.
BTW, I have white with brown specks on both of my cues, but I couldn't tell you if it was a regular brown or a walnut brown.
You can also wrap two colors at once alternating, It can look very cool and be different from the same old-same old. I did a cue recently with a white with black and a black with white on the same wrap. I like to also do something like a white with black alternating with a solid black as well as a black with white alternating with a solid white (actually more like cream not really white). There are a lot of possibilities, even banding with different colors, in other words changing the color within the wrap. Jack Justis, (The case guy), who used to build fishing rods can do wraps that would blow your mind. It is not as limited as one would think.olgoat said:
Like Murray Mentioned,
There are other guys here that do alot more wraps then I do also, but something I do is buy the small spools for single wraps at around 5 bucks a piece, then I can match the color to the cue better with the linen in hand, and If I decide I want more of a paticular color, I can just buy the larger spool in the color I picked to do more cues with. Maybe the small spools would be an option if having a hard time matching a color to the cue. Just an idea. Good Luck with It. Greg
There are other guys here that do alot more wraps then I do also, but something I do is buy the small spools for single wraps at around 5 bucks a piece, then I can match the color to the cue better with the linen in hand, and If I decide I want more of a paticular color, I can just buy the larger spool in the color I picked to do more cues with. Maybe the small spools would be an option if having a hard time matching a color to the cue. Just an idea. Good Luck with It. Greg
Do you have any pics?macguy said:
Tracy
BiG_JoN said:If you happen to spill beer on your cue, the Irish will soak it up better... (or would that be worse?)
Leave it to you. That was good.
http://www.cuestik.com/cuestik/catalog.cfm?dest=dir&linkid=74&linkon=subcategoryolgoat said:
http://www.cuestik.com/cuestik/catalog.cfm?dest=dir&linkid=76&linkon=subcategory
There are a couple that are 7.50, but most are 5 bucks. There just enough for one cue for the most part on these, but good way to test your color before investing in a full roll. They also fit in the pouch of My cue case easily so I can show people when I am out hitting a few balls, or making pickups and drop offs. Some linen will change color slighty after being pressed, so good for testing that as well. The hurlbert is good, but the genuine I have used, and It presses nicely also. Either kind seems fine to use to me.
Good Luck, would love to see what match you come up with when done. It does seem to be somewhat of an art matching linen colors with woods & materials in different cues to get the best look, and I am still experiementing with them Myself.
GC
macguy said:
Double wraps work really well with a cue that has multiple colors (ie woods) and none of the colors of the wrap seem to match. I love doing them because they really make some cues stand out - different than that cue at the next pool table. Cocobolo is one of those colors hard to match because the colors in the Cocobolo vary. I have wrapped a lot of cues 3 and 4 times just trying to get the wrap to look like it goes with the cue - waste half the day. Sorry but you may have to waste a little in time and wrap material to get the look you are happy with.
Jack
www.johnmaddencues.com
I've never seen any of these double wraps, does anyone have pictures of some?Jack Madden said:
Tracy
Cue Crazy said:
You know, that's pretty expensive if you think about it. It takes about 1/2 ounce to do a cue. That makes it $160.00 per pound compared to around $45.00 a pound. If you just invest in the basic most popular colors you would be better off. Even if you buy some of the weird colors you'll use them eventually and the first wrap almost pays for it all.