Joss vs Pechauer

[FortPoolGuy]

I've always been partial to Joss cues. I love the way they hit, especially the 20+ years old cues. I'm also a huge fan of 70s - early 90s Mali cues, which I also own. I'm looking to buy a Pechauer at the moment and was wondering about how it might compare to the hit of a Joss. I understand everyone has different preferences. I'm really into a stiffer wooden shaft and the balance of the cue. Any insight and info is appreciated.

 

[AlexandruM]

Hit will be similar. Same SS joint on both cues.
Both brands are great quality, can't go wrong.

Only downside is that Pechauer has his own kind of joint and this makes harder to find alternative shafts.

 

[wakuljr]

You can order a JP with a 5/16 14 pin.

 

[Johnny Rosato]

Pechauer has a lifetime warranty that they actullay honor,,, as does McDermott.

 

[bbb]

I've always been partial to Joss cues. I love the way they hit, especially the 20+ years old cues. I'm also a huge fan of 70s - early 90s Mali cues, which I also own. I'm looking to buy a Pechauer at the moment and was wondering about how it might compare to the hit of a Joss. I understand everyone has different preferences. I'm really into a stiffer wooden shaft and the balance of the cue. Any insight and info is appreciated.

why pechauer now?
just curious

 

[FortPoolGuy]

why pechauer now?
just curious

Just kinda wanting to try something different. A buddy got one and I really liked how the hit felt and the balance of the cue.

 

[FortPoolGuy]

Hit will be similar. Same SS joint on both cues.
Both brands are great quality, can't go wrong.

Only downside is that Pechauer has his own kind of joint and this makes harder to find alternative shafts.

I appreciate the info, thank you.

 

[measureman]

Hit will be similar. Same SS joint on both cues.
Both brands are great quality, can't go wrong.

Only downside is that Pechauer has his own kind of joint and this makes harder to find alternative shafts.

I had a Pechauer and called them about the pin they use.
The person I spoke to laughed and said if I wanted a shaft I would have to order it from them,I sold the cue,screw them.

 

[FortPoolGuy]

I had a Pechauer and called them about the pin they use.
The person I spoke to laughed and said if I wanted a shaft I would have to order it from them,I sold the cue,screw them.

That's totally understandable.

 

[Zerksies]

I had a Pechauer and called them about the pin they use.
The person I spoke to laughed and said if I wanted a shaft I would have to order it from them,I sold the cue,screw them.

looks like they use two types of pins

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If the cue is using that speed joint you probably are screwed. 5/16x14 is a very common size.

I also would pf probably told them to screw off too.

 

[FortPoolGuy]

You can order a JP with a 5/16 14 pin.

That's good to know.

 

[x Wild Bill x]

That's good to know.

The JP speed joint is 5/16" - 14 however, the joint pin has an unthreaded portion at the bottom of the pin that requires the shaft / insert to be bored out to 5/16" dia. for 0.400" depth....

 

[Michael Webb]

The JP speed joint is 5/16" - 14 however, the joint pin has an unthreaded portion at the bottom of the pin that requires the shaft / insert to be bored out to 5/16" dia. for 0.400" depth....

Have you actually measured it?

 

[Michael Webb]

I had a Pechauer and called them about the pin they use.
The person I spoke to laughed and said if I wanted a shaft I would have to order it from them,I sold the cue,screw them.

Pechauer Speed Joint

Has anyone converted a shaft with a 5/16x14 joint to fit a Pechauer butt-section with the speed joint screw? If yes, how complicated was the work and what tools were used to make it happen? Thanks in advance

forums.azbilliards.com

 

[x Wild Bill x]

Have you actually measured it?

I have, but now you have me questioning myself. I made a carbon shaft for myself to fit my JP series cue. Here is the CAD drawing I made for my insert, I took a premade self-aligning insert and bored it to fit. I will measure the pin on my cue tonight to double check.

 

[Michael Webb]

I have, but now you have me questioning myself. I made a carbon shaft for myself to fit my JP series cue. Here is the CAD drawing I made for my insert, I took a premade self-aligning insert and bored it to fit. I will measure the pin on my cue tonight to double check. View attachment 786876

If the shank on your screw accepts an 5/16"
That might be the only one. The rest are around .320 and almost a 1/2" long.

 

[x Wild Bill x]

If the shank on your screw accepts an 5/16"
That might be the only one. The rest are around .320 and almost a 1/2" long.

Interesting, I checked my measurements of the pin last night, so you can see where I got my measurements for an insert from. I purchased this cue with a custom stain from Pechauer in May of 2023.

 

[Michael Webb]

Interesting, I checked my measurements of the pin last night, so you can see where I got my measurements for an insert from. I purchased this cue with a custom stain from Pechauer in May of 2023.View attachment 787063View attachment 787064

.320 isn't 5/16"
But ok

 

[x Wild Bill x]

.320 isn't 5/16"
But ok

You're completely correct, I totally goofed on the 5/16" - 0.3125" earlier. Got it mixed in my head with the 5/16"-14 and didn't catch myself. Sorry.

 

[BilliardBay]

I've always been partial to Joss cues. I love the way they hit, especially the 20+ years old cues. I'm also a huge fan of 70s - early 90s Mali cues, which I also own. I'm looking to buy a Pechauer at the moment and was wondering about how it might compare to the hit of a Joss. I understand everyone has different preferences. I'm really into a stiffer wooden shaft and the balance of the cue. Any insight and info is appreciated.

Great to hear about your love for Joss and Mali cues—they’re both classics! If you’re into a stiff wooden shaft and balanced cue, Pechauer could be a great fit for you.


The N Series and S Series from Pechauer are both excellent options. The N Series offers a solid, consistent feel, while the S Series has a smooth balance with a slightly softer hit. Both are known for their top-notch craftsmanship and playability, so it really comes down to your personal preference.


You can check out more about Pechauer cues here: Pechauer Pool Cues.