Kremlin Cup 2015 (10 Ball) Moscow, Russia (6-8 Nov2015)

Has anyone found brackets or a match-results listing for this event? When will the finals be played?
 
terryhanna said:
brackets http://tournamentservice.net/service.php?chart=14321&menu=c7e49a&header
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Thank you, Terry! So it looks like the finals will be Immonen vs. Chinakhov tomorrow at noon local time, which will be 4 am USA east coast time. ugh.

By the way. I see this bracket spells Chinakhov's name with a khov. In the challenge match with Shane, it was spelled just hov, without the k. I've seen it both ways in lots of places. Is one correct and one incorrect? Is it pronounced as if the k were there even when it is spelled without it? Any Russian experts here?
 
AtLarge said:
Thank you, Terry! So it looks like the finals will be Immonen vs. Chinakhov tomorrow at noon local time, which will be 4 am USA east coast time. ugh.

By the way. I see this bracket spells Chinakhov's name with a khov. In the challenge match with Shane, it was spelled just hov, without the k. I've seen it both ways in lots of places. Is one correct and one incorrect? Is it pronounced as if the k were there even when it is spelled without it? Any Russian experts here?
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No expert here, but the Russian guy who interviewed Shane pronounced it as if it had a "k" in it.
 
Sloppy Pockets said:
No expert here, but the Russian guy who interviewed Shane pronounced it as if it had a "k" in it.
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I did a tiny bit of research (which is always dangerous). It appears to me that both kh and h are transliterations of the 23rd letter of the Russian alphabet, which is named kha and is written with an x. And it is pronounced like the ch in Scottish loch.

So now that's clear, right? :)
 
Congrats, Ruslan

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Poolmanis said:
So Chinakhov was a man for weekend!! :cool:
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Chinakhov has been playing a man's game since he was a kid. I believe the reason we haven't heard more from him in the last year is that he had to take a hiatus, and do a mandatory stint in the military. I would expect that we'll be really familiar with his name, which is pronounced as if the K were silent (according to a written interview), in tournaments to come. :grin-square:
 
AtLarge said:
I did a tiny bit of research (which is always dangerous). It appears to me that both kh and h are transliterations of the 23rd letter of the Russian alphabet, which is named kha and is written with an x. And it is pronounced like the ch in Scottish loch.

So now that's clear, right? :)
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First stats, now linguistics. What other abilities are you going to showcase? You're not trying to make yourself indispensable here, are you? ;)
 
Sloppy Pockets said:
First stats, now linguistics. What other abilities are you going to showcase? You're not trying to make yourself indispensable here, are you? ;)
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:smile: I really shouldn't do this.

Here's his name using the Russian alphabet: Чинахов

Apparently there have been quite a few systems for converting the Russian alphabet to the Latin alphabet. The latest system used in their passports would be:

Ч = Ch
и =i
н = n
а = a
х = kh
о = o
в = v

But x has been converted as just h in some earlier systems.

Ok, this is probably wrong in a bunch of ways. I think I'll stop.

[I wonder which conversion he prefers -- kh or h?]
 
AtLarge said:
:smile: I really shouldn't do this.

Here's his name using the Russian alphabet: Чинахов

Apparently there have been quite a few systems for converting the Russian alphabet to the Latin alphabet. The latest system used in their passports would be:

Ч = Ch
и =i
н = n
а = a
х = kh
о = o
в = v

But x has been converted as just h in some earlier systems.

Ok, this is probably wrong in a bunch of ways. I think I'll stop.

[I wonder which conversion he prefers -- kh or h?]
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AtLarge, you are actually quite closer to correct than you think.

The "kh" sound of the letter "x" is unlike anything we have in the English language. the closest we can come to it is "kh" but it's not a hard "k" sound, yet it's not as soft as the "h" sound. The closest thing I can describe it is like a clearing of your throat sound.

My wife speaks both Ukrainian and Russian fluently and she always gets a kick out of my "American accent" when I speak the language. That's a big tell, the "kh" sound. Needless to say, I would have been a terrible spy in the cold war days - they would have pegged me as an American as soon as I ordered a cup of coffee. :grin:

On a side note: In Russian, there isn't a "h" sound as in Henry. In Ukrainian, there is the letter "Г " which is the "h" sound, but in Russian that is pronounced as a hard "g" sound as in "golf".

So for Ruslan, his pronunciation would be with the "kh" sound as you called it correctly for their letter "x". But when translated into English, "chinakhov" would be the closest to correct because it would tend to have the "k" softened by the English reader/speaker
 
Chinakhov looks like one to watch out for in the future.
Would he be eligible to play in a Mosconi Cup? Does Russia even count as Europe?
 
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