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bubsbug

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Recently I bided on a cue component lathe on ebay and won. It recently came in, and this is how it looked!!!!!! No tail stock, no motor, and no cross slide peice. The seller agreed to refund purchase minus shipping and was told to ship it back. I wrote back and said that I didn't think I should have to pay return shipping. After all that would set me back $100. All I was wanting was for them to split the difference in shipping. Since this email they have reniged on there origional agreement. In the summary of ebay is states AS IS with no way of testing, but the pictures of said item is cleary different than what I got in. In one email they said that the motor was shipped in a different box. In another email they said that the motor and tail stock was mailed in another box. I have many questions, currently a resolution dispute as been filed with paypal. Wouldn't you know it my first paypal transaction and this is what happens. Does anyone have any similar experances and what were the outcome.
 

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It would be very interesting for me as well as others I am sure to know how paypal and eBay will handle this situation. Call your bank or whatever credit card you used in your paypal account and you may have to go up the ladder a little but your bank will eventually hold back the funds waiting for a resolution. You will however have to send it back to get anything done by your bank / credit card. Usually these issues get resolved before it comes to this, but it sounds like you will be paying all of the shipping costs
 
Is it me, or is the 'bed' and board, bent in the middle and alittle hilly towards the end?
Dave
 
Hammer Or Car

This lathe looks pretty well beat up. You didn't happen to back over it several times with your car or possible hit it with a big sledge hammer while you were sleep walking? GEEZ!!!!!

Best of luck on getting this deal squared away.

Jeffery
 
send it back

bubsbug said:
Recently I bided on a cue component lathe on ebay and won. It recently came in, and this is how it looked!!!!!! No tail stock, no motor, and no cross slide peice. The seller agreed to refund purchase minus shipping and was told to ship it back. I wrote back and said that I didn't think I should have to pay return shipping. After all that would set me back $100. All I was wanting was for them to split the difference in shipping. Since this email they have reniged on there origional agreement. In the summary of ebay is states AS IS with no way of testing, but the pictures of said item is cleary different than what I got in. In one email they said that the motor was shipped in a different box. In another email they said that the motor and tail stock was mailed in another box. I have many questions, currently a resolution dispute as been filed with paypal. Wouldn't you know it my first paypal transaction and this is what happens. Does anyone have any similar experances and what were the outcome.
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I would send it back to the seller ASAP and eat the shipping if you have to. PayPal has a way of ruling in the sellers favor if the buyer hasn?t returned the product. If I have learned one thing over the years it is just easier to buy brand new when it comes to a item like this. It is really getting hard to buy anything off Ebay. Good luck in getting this worked out.
 
Cue Companion lathe

This appears to be a Cue Companion lathe!? Did you buy it from Cue Components in Florida?

I'd ship it back to the Seller ASAP and file a claim with EBAY and PAYPAL.

Hopefully, you will get all your mony back -- BEST OF LUCK!
 
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Better to comply with all the details, if you keep it, it must be worth keeping in EBays eyes! What a piece of Sh__ that lathe is! Why are you buying up all this junk lately Bubsbug? I cannot believe it will cost $100 to ship what is in the picture, they may have charged you that to make more profit with "handling" charges. It looks like a 500# gorilla packed it!
 
Bug,

You need to be more careful in a post like this.

You stated that you bought a cue component lathe. On top of that, it came out of Florida.

Here is the listing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Cue-Repair-Pool-Cue-Lathe-Maker-By-Unique_W0QQitemZ140145090207QQihZ004QQcategoryZ21212QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I don't think this came from Joe, so it isn't a "cue component" lathe, and someone reading the post could quickly make that assumption regarding cue components.

The lathe looks pretty beat up in the listing, sometimes I am surprised at the price these sell for used. I agree with Waldo's post. For every machine that is intact and well cared for that someone gets a good deal on, there has to be one of these machines as well.

Bug, did the motor arrive in a separate box after you made the post? There is one in the listing, so I would be surprised if they wanted to cheat you out of the motor. Did you ask the seller if the bed was all beat to hell when he shipped it? Was it carefully packed? Was the box all bent up and beat up in the locations where the bed is damaged?

1. If the motor arrived, albeit delayed, and
2. The seller says the bed was in good shape and the shipping was suspect or the box was damaged in those locations, then it looks to me from the pics you really got what you paid for, and it is time to find out if you paid for insurance and make a claim for the item being destroyed during shipping. I have never had to do that, so I don't know if you have to do that, or the seller.

Note the name of the seller: wegotjunk4u

I feel for you, a lot of $$ to drop and have that arrive. :(

Kelly
 
Kelly_Guy said:
Bug,

You need to be more careful in a post like this.

You stated that you bought a cue component lathe. On top of that, it came out of Florida.

Here is the listing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Cue-Repair-Pool-Cue-Lathe-Maker-By-Unique_W0QQitemZ140145090207QQihZ004QQcategoryZ21212QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I don't think this came from Joe, so it isn't a "cue component" lathe, and someone reading the post could quickly make that assumption regarding cue components.

The lathe looks pretty beat up in the listing, sometimes I am surprised at the price these sell for used. I agree with Waldo's post. For every machine that is intact and well cared for that someone gets a good deal on, there has to be one of these machines as well.

Bug, did the motor arrive in a separate box after you made the post? There is one in the listing, so I would be surprised if they wanted to cheat you out of the motor. Did you ask the seller if the bed was all beat to hell when he shipped it? Was it carefully packed? Was the box all bent up and beat up in the locations where the bed is damaged?

1. If the motor arrived, albeit delayed, and
2. The seller says the bed was in good shape and the shipping was suspect or the box was damaged in those locations, then it looks to me from the pics you really got what you paid for, and it is time to find out if you paid for insurance and make a claim for the item being destroyed during shipping. I have never had to do that, so I don't know if you have to do that, or the seller.

Note the name of the seller: wegotjunk4u

I feel for you, a lot of $$ to drop and have that arrive. :(

Kelly
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No it has nothing to fo with Joe's Place. It is a companion, not component my mistake. Seller said that board wasnt broken. Machine was just placed in a very large box, like 2'x2' square box. Box didn't look to be beat up. No, I am new to paypal and didnt know about insurance, I guess chalk that up to a lesson learned. I didnt make a claim that item shiped was damaged in shipping although seller did. I made the claim that it wasnt what I was expecting. The second box hasnt arrived yet, it willbe interesting to see when the post mark date was.
 
bubsbug said:
No it has nothing to fo with Joe's Place. It is a companion, not component my mistake. Seller said that board wasnt broken. Machine was just placed in a very large box, like 2'x2' square box. Box didn't look to be beat up. No, I am new to paypal and didnt know about insurance, I guess chalk that up to a lesson learned. I didnt make a claim that item shiped was damaged in shipping although seller did. I made the claim that it wasnt what I was expecting. The second box hasnt arrived yet, it willbe interesting to see when the post mark date was.
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The motor arriving late could be an honest mistake by either the seller or the shipper. Unfortunate, but could still be an honest mistake.

It sounds like the packing job was terrible for something like this, and the seller is at fault there, but at least the seller filed the damaged claim. That is one positive sign. However, having that kind of damage and the box being intact and not damaged doesn't seem logical. Good luck.

Kelly
 
Hey buggy, that lathe looks pretty sad. I don't believe that the motor in the listing is the correct one anyway. The motor originaly has a veriable speed control and is dc. Check with the carrier and make sure a claim has been filed. If a claim was filed then the funds will be sent to the sender.

good luck.

jimbo.
 
The sender will get any money paid for a claim. UPS will come and pick it up at their expense and inspect it, if it was shipped UPS. The lathe will become the property of UPS if they desire and if he insured it fully he will get a refund. That is the tricky part as he will then have to ship you the money. So I am not sure what to tell you to do. It takes a few weeks to sort it all out. You do need to aks him the UPS claim number then you can call UPS and have them come and get it. They will not talk to you until he makes a claim. Once you have the claim # you have some leverage to get a paypal refund and let him collect from UPS. If it is another shipper I have never had to deal with claims except post office.
 
Bubsbug,

You can contact your bank where you pay and use your PayPal account and stop payment. Then you make copies of all documents to show item not as described, and you will have your bank doing all the necessary legwork to keep your money in your pocket including shipping fees to you. However, you MUST return item before bank will get involved. They will want all emails and correspondence between seller and buyer to help determine outcome.

Hope this helps, I feel for you, WOW!!

John
 
It was shipped through the U.S. mail system. I paied paypal through checking account number. It took like 10 day for it to all go through. I got a conframation stating the account was paied and then 3 days latter my package arrived. To me this means that the seller already got his money. Am I miss lead?
 
bubsbug said:
It was shipped through the U.S. mail system. I paied paypal through checking account number. It took like 10 day for it to all go through. I got a conframation stating the account was paied and then 3 days latter my package arrived. To me this means that the seller already got his money. Am I miss lead?
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The seller gets his money the instant you transfer it to him thru Paypal.
More correctly it is taken from your bank account and placed into his Paypal account and is available for use.

The lathe looks like it is in rough shape.
That is NOT the motor it came with.
That is a Cue Companion and is a repair lathe but is capable of making Sneaky Pete cues from house cues.
It is the same model repair lathe I started out with seven years ago.
I sold it for $1500 with the variable speed DC motor and all the tooling.

I would send it back for a refund even if I had to eat $100 in shipping and write it off to experience.
It will cost you at least $1000 just for for the correct motor and all the tooling that you will need to use it.
(assuming the bearing in the chuck is OK)
Jim and Bryan at Unique Products can and will help you get it back in shape should you decide to keep it.
They are great guys.
If you decide to keep it ask them for the video showing how to set it up and use it and you will see what other tooling you will need.
 
Dave38 said:
Is it me, or is the 'bed' and board, bent in the middle and alittle hilly towards the end?
Dave
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Yep ... that bow should not be there and is bad news.
 
The bed didn't look bent as bad in the auction pics, but if the board was broke I think It may have been better shipped without the board attached. I wonder if that didn't cause more damage to the lathe bed during the shipping.

BTW It was showing shipping at only 49 bucks for Me, but I'm in FL, so maybe that's why.

Sorry to hear the news Bubs, I'm sure the 500 could be better spent. There may Be some parts there to build something else with, but not sure It would be worth the cost.

Greg
 
bubsbug said:
Recently I bided on a cue component lathe on ebay and won. It recently came in, and this is how it looked!!!!!! No tail stock, no motor, and no cross slide peice. The seller agreed to refund purchase minus shipping and was told to ship it back. I wrote back and said that I didn't think I should have to pay return shipping. After all that would set me back $100. All I was wanting was for them to split the difference in shipping. Since this email they have reniged on there origional agreement. In the summary of ebay is states AS IS with no way of testing, but the pictures of said item is cleary different than what I got in. In one email they said that the motor was shipped in a different box. In another email they said that the motor and tail stock was mailed in another box. I have many questions, currently a resolution dispute as been filed with paypal. Wouldn't you know it my first paypal transaction and this is what happens. Does anyone have any similar experances and what were the outcome.
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This is a Cue Companion, and it is in pretty rough shape. The funny thing is that I have gotten many machines in the shop in this kind of shape, or a couple even worse than this. Since I build the machinery, there is nothing we cannot fix or replace but sometimes it is easier and less expensive to purchase a new machine than it is to replace the parts on a machine that looks like this. Let me know if you need pricing, or assistance with the machine. Good luck

Jim
 
billiardbum said:
This is a Cue Companion, and it is in pretty rough shape. The funny thing is that I have gotten many machines in the shop in this kind of shape, or a couple even worse than this. Since I build the machinery, there is nothing we cannot fix or replace but sometimes it is easier and less expensive to purchase a new machine than it is to replace the parts on a machine that looks like this. Let me know if you need pricing, or assistance with the machine. Good luck

Jim
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Funny how things come full circle sometimes. Very classy, a greenie for you.
Kelly
 
bubsbug said:
Since this email they have reniged on there origional agreement.
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want to try to get a little $ back for it???I might can use it but it would have to be basement bargain
 
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