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merylane

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well maybee not so old

gee i wonder who made this?
 

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What, er, um, is it? Are you going to have a cue made out of it? Who is going to do the work?

Martin


merylane said:
gee i wonder who made this?
 
jazznpool said:
What, er, um, is it? Are you going to have a cue made out of it? Who is going to do the work?

Martin

oops my note didnt come out complete? " i wonder who made it ? " did you notice the writing on it?

thats just a peice of history i got in a bunch of old stuff.
 
I was still in diapers so it wasn't me.

Why can't I ever come across cool stuff like that? :mad: ;)
 
TATE said:
That looks a lot like the short splice they used in the third catalog Palmer #10, a blue color. Right time period.

Palmer 3rd catalog

Chris

technically its a full splice.

i though somthing like but the veneers are black, light blue, white, light blue, black.

have you seen a # 10 ?

oh shoot i should have had my friend take pics of that case for :confused: you :confused:
 
merylane said:
technically its a full splice.

i though somthing like but the veneers are black, light blue, white, light blue, black.

have you seen a # 10 ?

oh shoot i should have had my friend take pics of that case for :confused: you :confused:

I've just seen a pic of one and I remember it was blue but not the exact veneer layout. The odd thing about this one of yours is that it's 5 veneers. Tad used 5. I wonder who else did?

Chris
 
TATE said:
I've just seen a pic of one and I remember it was blue but not the exact veneer layout. The odd thing about this one of yours is that it's 5 veneers. Tad used 5. I wonder who else did?

Chris

ive not seen that same combo either.

did tad do fullsplice blanks? or even birds eye on birds eye?

burt did a sh*t load 5 veneer blanks, some made it into alot of famous cues.

to include alot of diamond kings, cranes bushka, tullos bushka .....
 
Can someone explain to me how this is a full splice? This is not meant to be derogatory, I just don't understand. I thought a full splice went all the way to the butt cap. This cue looks to be a half splice.

Please help!

Jim
 
jhendri2 said:
Can someone explain to me how this is a full splice? This is not meant to be derogatory, I just don't understand. I thought a full splice went all the way to the butt cap. This cue looks to be a half splice.
This is an example of a short-full splice. Many cuemakers cut the back part of the blank off, especially on ebony blanks to conserve weight. After a while, the blanks were just made short to begin with. So less point wood had to be used per blank. Burton Spain referred to these as short splices. He referred to the splice which is made of five pieces of wood, as half spliced. The photos in this thread look like straight grain maple spliced into birdseye, to me. Burton did make 5 veneer points. My guess is, that he made this one.

Tracy
 
iconcuecom said:
well let's see!
my EXPERT opinion is that this is either a spain or a paradise.
and the handwriting looks to be burt spains!

but! what do i know i'm only an EXPERT :)

Well, I guess here's one thing: He had stopped making them by then (before restarting in 1974). It could have been made by John Davis I guess.

Chris
 
iconcuecom said:
ok! ok! i'm not really an expert. you just had to make me look bad.

Sorry!

I once owned this cue and like an idiot, sold it.
http://www.proficientbilliards.com/cues/Josswest/1970/images/DSC07898_jpg.jpg

It is a very early JW by Bill Stroud. Fortunately the next owner had it refinished by Proficient (and I recognized it) so I have their photo to use.

Notice this is very similar work. It's a full splice birdseye on birdseye with 5 veneers, black/natural/green/natural/black.

Chris
 
RSB-Refugee said:
This is an example of a short-full splice. Many cuemakers cut the back part of the blank off, especially on ebony blanks to conserve weight. After a while, the blanks were just made short to begin with. So less point wood had to be used per blank. Burton Spain referred to these as short splices. He referred to the splice which is made of five pieces of wood, as half spliced. The photos in this thread look like straight grain maple spliced into birdseye, to me. Burton did make 5 veneer points. My guess is, that he made this one.

Tracy

Thanks Tracy. Good explanation. I never really understood what a short full splice was. Much appreciated.

Jim
 
merylane said:
my new cue


well now we got a mystery.... joel said john davis said it was not his or burts, but was not sure if burt delt with doc?

so does anyone know of anybody making fullsplice shorties ?

in the early 70's ?
 
merylane said:
well now we got a mystery.... joel said john davis said it was not his or burts, but was not sure if burt delt with doc?

so does anyone know of anybody making fullsplice shorties ?

in the early 70's ?

At the price that is on that blank I know of no one except maybe Adams or Taiwan where I believe Adams had there full spliced cues made. Burton was always proud of his work so I'm sure he would have charged more than that. In the mid eighties you could get veneered prongs from praether for around 20-25.00 but Burtons was around a 100.00 if I remember right.
Dick
 
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