My apologies... I didn't fully mean to come off like a dick. However the point still stands. A full bore power draw shot can be had without the need for a closed bridge. It really boils down to the quality of the mechanics. I understand using a closed bridge is easier than dialing in mechanics at that spd. ...but it is still a bandaid for a sub par stroke.Thanks.
I think it's mostly tradition, but carom (3C) has a lot of power and spin shots that will test the behavior of your grip hand. Also, carom players generally have a higher stance which may affect things. Carom has a set of closed bridges that the other disciplines rarely/never use.
Just my guess is that they need a lot of power, more than pool players or snooker players would ever regularly use. Just like a power break shot in pool you will never see an open hand bridge. They also seem to stand a little higher to get more stroke/follow through?
My sense is that an open bridge gives you a more precise aiming line to the specific hit on the object ball while a closed bridge gives you a more precise alignment on the point the cue tip will contact the cue ball, and hence better control over the English - and it remains more precise when the stroke is more powerful.I will always believe I have more control over a shot with a closed bridge
Do you think the top 3C players, who use a closed bridge almost exclusively, all have sub-par strokes? Or is there perhaps some factor you are not aware of or not taking into account?My apologies... I didn't fully mean to come off like a dick. However the point still stands. A full bore power draw shot can be had without the need for a closed bridge. It really boils down to the quality of the mechanics. I understand using a closed bridge is easier than dialing in mechanics at that spd. ...but it is still a bandaid for a sub par stroke.
I think stroke mechanics for potting balls is far more critical then it is in 3C. Introducing needless drag on your shaft with a closed bridge is foolish when precision cueing is required.Do you think the top 3C players, who use a closed bridge almost exclusively, all have sub-par strokes? Or is there perhaps some factor you are not aware of or not taking into account?
joshua filler uses a closed bridge a lot. most players switch between the two depending on the shot. open bridge is good for long shots or where sighting is more important than power. look at power draw shots and you'll see both raga, filler and others use the closed bridge.
powder does cause problems with the shot clock
Clearly there's personal bias in your comments above. No different then the comments in my previous post that fails to find an advantage for the closed bridge.An open bridge works OK with draw shots most of the time because the shot itself forces the shaft down into the bridge. When adding side the open bridge may show some flaw, the stick starting to move sideways before the tip has left the cue ball. This can cause more side than expected, can cause miscues too if the shot was already planned with the tip out towards the edge of the maximum side possible. One thing about the open bridge, you are dropping the shaft into a "V" shape. Where exactly is that "V" pointing? Are both sides of the "V" equally strong and stiff with the same amount of give?
"Obvious" is a strong word. I'd go with "potentially". Speaking only for myself. I actually place downward force on my cue with both my chin and chest. The only way my cue is popping out of my open bridge is if I hit real bad and stand up at the same time, which isn't going to happen, or my cue malfunctions and folds itself in half.A closed bridge can give some level of 360 degree support so no matter where the tip hits the cueball it is better restrained from moving further out on the cue ball. Shooting follow it is obvious that a closed bridge has better control.
With all due respect. You starting to grasp here. I know your history with shooting, so I can understand where the comparison is coming from, but to suggest an obstructed cueing view would be an advantage is a stretch.The advantages of an open bridge are two-fold. One, it is generally more comfortable. The other thing is that you get a longer unobstructed view of the shaft to aim with. This is of somewhat dubious value for most shots because those shooting with a closed bridge learn to aim with what they can see. It might even be argued that the finger wrapped over the shaft breaks it up into two areas to aim with, more like front and rear sights on a gun.
Here's the thing with old people that have been doing something the same way for a long time. They think how they do it, is the best way, even when it's not necessarily. I'm really no different in this regard. Just saying....The only person that played above "C" level and mentored me a little was an old shortstop that owned a hall. He advocated always using a closed bridge and always using a short bridge. Try this one night when you can't make a ball in the ocean and you may be surprised. It has turned around more than a few bad nights for me.
Based only on this video. I'm not overly impressed with his CB control. The bulk of the shots naturally funneled into the legal caroms and several of the OBs were buried in corners that allowed for carom with additional rails after the initial miss. I'm sure this video is awe inspiring for those who don't have a grasp of the various situational elements.Watch Mr Hoppe. Who is there in pool today that has better cue ball control than Mr Hoppe? Freely moving shoulder, closed bridge, carom and billiard championships by the dozen!