Playability of Macassar Ebony vs Gaboon ebony for playing cues.

[Poolplaya9]

I'm sure the ebony cue will hit harder ( equals delivering more power ), wont it ?

Please correct me if u beg to differ ?

Thanks

Assuming hitting the same place on the cue ball, the only things that have any significant effect on the "power" (energy) delivered to the cue ball are:
-the weight of the cue
-the speed the cue is moving at the moment of impact with the cue ball
-and to a much lesser extent how hard the tip is (there is very little difference in the power transfer between leather tips within the range of hardness's most commonly used for playing though).
-and also probably to a small extent the stiffness of the shaft and the amount of mass in the front end, but again, any differences probably are too small to worry about in practical real life situations.

For practical purposes mostly what really matters is just the weight of the cue and the speed of the hit. The type of wood has essentially zero to do with "power" (how much energy is transferred into the cue ball).

What the type of wood can affect however is the type and amount of vibration (feedback) you will feel in your hand, and this vibration is a big part of what people call "feel" and terms such as "hard hitting" or "soft hit" are often used by people to describe it. So the type of wood can have an affect on the type of feedback (feel) you receive, and in that respect can be an important consideration in meeting your personal preferences for "feel", but it has no real effect on "power".

 

[KRJ]

Okay , next time u're trying to be funny, try putting a lol at the end of ur statement lol

Thought ya were trying to start something, all's good, im not a really good player, started playing a yr ago but just trying to learn more about cues and what i like or dislike and the reason behind it

Then if you're new to pool, then avoid what every other newbie on the planet does. Worrying so much about his cue. Jeez, just play pool and makes balls. The cue is the last thing you need to worry about when you're a beginner. Heck, many expert players don't really care that much about the "wood" in their cue. I'm thinking the shaft taper and tip is much more important to them.

 

[kntbeach]

I also love ebony cues. I have played with both and cannot tell a difference in hit. As far as longevity. I play with a jet black with jet black points R-10 non cored. It has maybe a couple hundred thousand games on it and looks like new so no worries about cracking with use or age as it is early 80's.

 

[NervousNovice]

Sorry for asking a different question. Mezz has a simple EC7 ebony cue. I think it is cored. The wood looks very black. Does anyone know what kind of ebony is used there?

http://www.billardpro.de/mezz-ec7-es-pool-billard-queue.html

 

[Tramp Steamer]

Then if you're new to pool, then avoid what every other newbie on the planet does. Worrying so much about his cue. Jeez, just play pool and makes balls. The cue is the last thing you need to worry about when you're a beginner. Heck, many expert players don't really care that much about the "wood" in their cue. I'm thinking the shaft taper and tip is much more important to them.

Absolutely. You should be way more concerned about the shape of your cue tip than the wood your cue is made of. The notion that a dark wood, like ebony, gives you power is pure nonsense.
It is a figment of your imagination.

 

[cesarmorales]

Hey, what is this, who is this OP, some cheap rolex knockoff, hahaha???

Anyway, I have a judd that is Gabon or is it Gaboon ebony 8 point and he did not core it and it shoots great. He did have to put a wrap on it to keep the weight down.

I have half a dozen Gabon ebony cues and they all play great, some are cored and some are not. I think the shaft is way more important than the butt.

The real CesarMorales, hahaha

 

[Tony_in_MD]

Yep, that about covers it.

From all the responses so far, most of you don't seem to have a favourite wood for playability.
If that's the case, do most of you when customizing a cue, choose wood solely based on asthetic factor ?

I still don't get it.
Lets put it this way,

Are y'all saying that an entire birdseye maple cue core with "x wood " will hit the same as an entire ebony cue core w similar "x wood "??

I'm sure the ebony cue will hit harder ( equals delivering more power ), wont it ?

Please correct me if u beg to differ ?

Thanks

 

[LAlouie]

I think most "solid" ebony is cored and replaced with maple. Solid ebony has a ping sound that many people don't like.

 

[Cezar Morales]

I think most "solid" ebony is cored and replaced with maple. Solid ebony has a ping sound that many people don't like.

Yup, think i got it.

Ebony has the ping sound that i adore so much and maybe mis-led me to the misconception that ebony delivers more power.

I just find moving the cue ball much easier with ebony cues maybe due to its weight as it tends to be heavier.

Most ebony are core because it tends to be heavier right ?
However i read on az that some people prefer uncore ebony, will it result in warping over a period of time ?

 

[Cezar Morales]

Absolutely. You should be way more concerned about the shape of your cue tip than the wood your cue is made of. The notion that a dark wood, like ebony, gives you power is pure nonsense.
It is a figment of your imagination.

I think it delivers more power because its heavy and i find moving the cue ball more easily , certainly not because it is dark .

 

[AK-Stick]

I hope i am not off topic but African Blackwood is a great substitute for ebony and may hit superioe IMO

 

[bbb]

do you think you should ask your question in the
ASK THE CUEMAKER section??