Player of the decade Earl or Sigel?

Earl or Sigel

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Stevexjfe

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The Billiards Digest elected Earl the player of the decade in the 80s, but I don't see it after looking at there records, I would say Sigel, what do you think?

Sigel's record-

* 1980 Piedmont Open 9-ball
* 1980 Rocky Mountain Open 9-ball
* 1980 World Series of Pool
* 1980 U.S. Open 9-Ball Championship
* 1981 PPPA World Straight Pool Championship
* 1981 Caesars Tahoe Billiard Classic
* 1981 Southeastern Open 9-Ball
* 1982 Music City Open 9-ball
* 1982 Southeastern Open 9-ball
* 1982 Australian 8-Ball Invitational
* 1982 Denver Open 9-ball
* 1983 Southeastern Open 9-ball
* 1983 Caesars Boardwalk Billiard Classic
* 1983 Rocky Mountain Open 9-ball
* 1983 U.S. Open 9-Ball Championship
* 1983 Clyde Childress Memorial 9-Ball Open
* 1984 Wolfpack Open 9-Ball
* 1984 Coors Tar Heel Open 9-Ball
* 1985 Florida Nine-ball Open
* 1985 Glass City Open 9-Ball
* 1985 Spring Open 9-Ball Championship
* 1985 PBA World Straight Pool Championship
* 1985 Sands Regency 9-Ball Open
* 1986 Glass City Open 9-Ball
* 1986 B.C. Open 9-ball Championship
* 1986 Sands Regency 9-Ball Open
* 1986 Busch Open 9-ball
* 1986 Akron Open 9-Ball
* 1986 Resorts International Last Call For 9-Ball
* 1986 Moline Open 9-Ball
* 1987 Florida Open 9-Ball
* 1987 Carolina Open 9-Ball
* 1987 Corner Pocket Classic
* 1987 Peter Vitalie Invitational 9-Ball Championship
* 1987 Classic Cup VI 9-ball
* 1987 Rak'em Up Classic
* 1987 Brunswick 9-Ball Team Challenge - with (Ewa Mataya)
* 1988 Swedish Open 9-Ball
* 1988 King of the Rings 14.1
* 1988 King of the Rings Mixed Doubles - with (LoreeJon Jones)
* 1988 Sands Regency 9-Ball Open
* 1988 PBA World Straight Pool Championship
* 1989 B.C. Open 9-Ball Championship
* 1989 Sands Regency 9-Ball Open

Earl's record-

* 1989 Cue Time Classic 9-Ball
* 1989 Akron 9-Ball Open
* 1988 Tara 9-Ball Open
* 1988 Brunswick Open 9-Ball Championship
* 1988 Shoals Classic 9-Ball
* 1988 Lexington All-Star Nine-ball
* 1988 Augusta Classic 9-Ball
* 1988 Greater Greenville 9-Ball Open
* 1988 Akron 9-Ball Open
* 1988 South Carolina 9-Ball Open
* 1987 U.S. Open 9-ball Championship
* 1987 North California Fall 9-Ball Classic
* 1987 Joe Farhat Open
* 1987 Bowling Green Open 9-Ball
* 1987 Tara 9-Ball Open
* 1987 Sands Regency 9-Ball Open
* 1987 Charlotte 9-Ball Open
* 1987 Fall Classic 9-Ball
* 1987 Akron 9-Ball Open
* 1986 Bowling Green Open 9-Ball
* 1986 Citrus 9-Ball Open
* 1986 North California Fall Classic 9-Ball
* 1985 Tar Heel 9-Ball Open
* 1985 Clyde Childress Memorial 9-Ball Open
* 1985 Charlotte 9-Ball Open
* 1985 Akron 9-Ball Open
* 1985 West Virginia State 9-Ball Open
* 1984 U.S. Open 9-ball Championship
* 1984 Caesars Palace Billiard Classic
* 1984 Houston Red's 9-Ball Open
* 1984 McDermott Masters 9-Ball Championship
* 1984 Akron 9-Ball Open
* 1983 Caesars Tahoe Billiard Classic
* 1982 Dayton 9-Ball Open
* 1982 Akron 9-Ball Open
 
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Mich

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raphcleary said:
The Billiards Digest elected Earl the player of the decade in the 80s, but I don't see it after looking at there records, I would say Sigel, what do you think?

Sigel's record-

* 1980 Piedmont Open 9-ball
* 1980 Rocky Mountain Open 9-ball
* 1980 World Series of Pool
* 1980 U.S. Open 9-Ball Championship
* 1981 PPPA World Straight Pool Championship
* 1981 Caesars Tahoe Billiard Classic
* 1982 Music City Open 9-ball
* 1983 Southeastern Open 9-ball
* 1983 Caesars Boardwalk Billiard Classic
* 1983 Denver Open 9-ball
* 1983 Rocky Mountain Open 9-ball
* 1983 U.S. Open 9-Ball Championship
* 1983 Clyde Childress Memorial 9-Ball Open
* 1984 Wolfpack Open 9-Ball
* 1984 Coors Tar Heel Open 9-Ball
* 1985 Florida Nine-ball Open
* 1985 Glass City Open 9-Ball
* 1985 Spring Open 9-Ball Championship
* 1985 PBA World Straight Pool Championship
* 1985 Sands Regency 9-Ball Open
* 1986 Glass City Open 9-Ball
* 1986 B.C. Open 9-ball Championship
* 1986 Sands Regency 9-Ball Open
* 1986 Busch Open 9-ball
* 1986 Akron Open 9-Ball
* 1986 Resorts International Last Call For 9-Ball
* 1986 Moline Open 9-Ball
* 1987 Florida Open 9-Ball
* 1987 Corner Pocket Classic
* 1987 Peter Vitalie Invitational 9-Ball Championship
* 1987 Classic Cup VI 9-ball
* 1987 Rak'em Up Classic
* 1987 Brunswick 9-Ball Team Challenger - with (Ewa Mataya)
* 1988 Swedish Open 9-Ball
* 1988 King of the Rings 14.1
* 1988 King of the Rings Mixed Doubles - with (LoreeJon Jones)
* 1988 Sands Regency 9-Ball Open
* 1988 PBA World Straight Pool Championship
* 1989 B.C. Open 9-Ball Championship
* 1989 Sands Regency 9-Ball Open

Earl's record-

* 1989 Cue Time Classic 9-Ball
* 1989 Akron 9-Ball Open
* 1988 Tara 9-Ball Open
* 1988 PBA Brunswick World Open 9-Ball
* 1988 Shoals Classic 9-Ball
* 1988 Lexington All-Star Nine-ball
* 1988 Augusta Classic 9-Ball
* 1988 Greater Greenville 9-Ball Open
* 1988 Akron 9-Ball Open
* 1988 South Carolina 9-Ball Open
* 1987 U.S. Open 9-ball Championship
* 1987 North California Fall 9-Ball Classic
* 1987 Joe Farhat Open
* 1987 Bowling Green Open 9-Ball
* 1987 Tara 9-Ball Open
* 1987 Sands Regency 9-Ball Open
* 1987 Charlotte 9-Ball Open
* 1987 Fall Classic 9-Ball
* 1987 Akron 9-Ball Open
* 1986 Bowling Green Open 9-Ball
* 1986 Citrus 9-Ball Open
* 1986 North California Fall Classic 9-Ball
* 1985 Tar Heel 9-Ball Open
* 1985 Clyde Childress Memorial 9-Ball Open
* 1985 Charlotte 9-Ball Open
* 1985 Akron 9-Ball Open
* 1985 West Virginia State 9-Ball Open
* 1984 U.S. Open 9-ball Championship
* 1984 Caesars Palace Billiard Classic
* 1984 Houston Red's 9-Ball Open
* 1984 McDermott Masters 9-Ball Championship
* 1984 Akron 9-Ball Open
* 1983 Caesars Tahoe Billiard Classic
* 1982 Dayton 9-Ball Open
* 1982 Akron 9-Ball Open
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Sigel.
 
hang-the-9

hang-the-9

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I don't think they just look at the tournament results for that, but maybe how dominant the player was. I don't think anyone put fear into the opponent as much as Earl did in his prime. Sure it was tough to beat Sigel, but I bet more players shit their pants when they had to think about playing Earl. It's a bit like Efren, he may not have as many titles as other players you would compare him to, but he sure is regarded as the best of all time and for good reason.
 
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Stevexjfe

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hang-the-9 said:
I don't think they just look at the tournament results for that, but maybe how dominant the player was. I don't think anyone put fear into the opponent as much as Earl did in his prime. Sure it was tough to beat Sigel, but I bet more players shit their pants when they had to think about playing Earl. It's a bit like Efren, he may not have as many titles as other players you would compare him to, but he sure is regarded as the best of all time and for good reason.
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Efren does have more titles than pretty much any other player though, thus the more titles the better player.

List of Efren Reyes championships - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Also if it was based on fear Efren would have won player of the decade in the 90s, without a doubt.
 
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Fatboy

Fatboy

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Mike by a nose hair.

Photo finish 🏇🏇

Tough one to call,

At the end of the day, thinking about it, it’s a toss up. Mike was out of the gate a few years earlier than Earl, they overlapped some for a few years then Mike retired at 39 years old. Earl kept playing.

Who played better? Mikes answer, not mine. “About the same, Earl had that high gear in 9 ball-forget about it”.

Fatboy<———don’t shoot the messenger
 
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Cameron Smith

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I think Mike should have won. It looks like Earl became more dominant towards the end of the decade which seems like it might have resulted in a recency bias. I always felt like Mika getting awarded player of the decade in the 00s was a similar recency bias due to his form in 2008-2010.
 
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Stevexjfe

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Cameron Smith said:
I think Mike should have won. It looks like Earl became more dominant towards the end of the decade which seems like it might have resulted in a recency bias. I always felt like Mika getting awarded player of the decade in the 00s was a similar recency bias due to his form in 2008-2010.
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A lot of people thought Souquet or Efren were the player of the decade in the 2000s.
 
Cornerman

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raphcleary said:
The Billiards Digest elected Earl the player of the decade in the 80s, but I don't see it after looking at there records, I would say Sigel, what do you think?

Sigel's record-

* 1980 Piedmont Open 9-ball
* 1980 Rocky Mountain Open 9-ball
* 1980 World Series of Pool
* 1980 U.S. Open 9-Ball Championship
* 1981 PPPA World Straight Pool Championship
* 1981 Caesars Tahoe Billiard Classic
* 1982 Music City Open 9-ball
* 1983 Southeastern Open 9-ball
* 1983 Caesars Boardwalk Billiard Classic
* 1983 Denver Open 9-ball
* 1983 Rocky Mountain Open 9-ball
* 1983 U.S. Open 9-Ball Championship
* 1983 Clyde Childress Memorial 9-Ball Open
* 1984 Wolfpack Open 9-Ball
* 1984 Coors Tar Heel Open 9-Ball
* 1985 Florida Nine-ball Open
* 1985 Glass City Open 9-Ball
* 1985 Spring Open 9-Ball Championship
* 1985 PBA World Straight Pool Championship
* 1985 Sands Regency 9-Ball Open
* 1986 Glass City Open 9-Ball
* 1986 B.C. Open 9-ball Championship
* 1986 Sands Regency 9-Ball Open
* 1986 Busch Open 9-ball
* 1986 Akron Open 9-Ball
* 1986 Resorts International Last Call For 9-Ball
* 1986 Moline Open 9-Ball
* 1987 Florida Open 9-Ball
* 1987 Corner Pocket Classic
* 1987 Peter Vitalie Invitational 9-Ball Championship
* 1987 Classic Cup VI 9-ball
* 1987 Rak'em Up Classic
* 1987 Brunswick 9-Ball Team Challenger - with (Ewa Mataya)
* 1988 Swedish Open 9-Ball
* 1988 King of the Rings 14.1
* 1988 King of the Rings Mixed Doubles - with (LoreeJon Jones)
* 1988 Sands Regency 9-Ball Open
* 1988 PBA World Straight Pool Championship
* 1989 B.C. Open 9-Ball Championship
* 1989 Sands Regency 9-Ball Open

Earl's record-

* 1989 Cue Time Classic 9-Ball
* 1989 Akron 9-Ball Open
* 1988 Tara 9-Ball Open
* 1988 PBA Brunswick World Open 9-Ball
* 1988 Shoals Classic 9-Ball
* 1988 Lexington All-Star Nine-ball
* 1988 Augusta Classic 9-Ball
* 1988 Greater Greenville 9-Ball Open
* 1988 Akron 9-Ball Open
* 1988 South Carolina 9-Ball Open
* 1987 U.S. Open 9-ball Championship
* 1987 North California Fall 9-Ball Classic
* 1987 Joe Farhat Open
* 1987 Bowling Green Open 9-Ball
* 1987 Tara 9-Ball Open
* 1987 Sands Regency 9-Ball Open
* 1987 Charlotte 9-Ball Open
* 1987 Fall Classic 9-Ball
* 1987 Akron 9-Ball Open
* 1986 Bowling Green Open 9-Ball
* 1986 Citrus 9-Ball Open
* 1986 North California Fall Classic 9-Ball
* 1985 Tar Heel 9-Ball Open
* 1985 Clyde Childress Memorial 9-Ball Open
* 1985 Charlotte 9-Ball Open
* 1985 Akron 9-Ball Open
* 1985 West Virginia State 9-Ball Open
* 1984 U.S. Open 9-ball Championship
* 1984 Caesars Palace Billiard Classic
* 1984 Houston Red's 9-Ball Open
* 1984 McDermott Masters 9-Ball Championship
* 1984 Akron 9-Ball Open
* 1983 Caesars Tahoe Billiard Classic
* 1982 Dayton 9-Ball Open
* 1982 Akron 9-Ball Open
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Sigel by just a little bit. He was the transition, and showed everyone what high-caliber 9-ball was all about.
 
JusticeNJ

JusticeNJ

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For the period of 1980 - 1989 Sigel. Earl sits in a weird space having been truly dominant between the 80s and 90s but not throughout both decades IMO, with Mike “retiring” around that in between time. It’s really a timing issue for me. Both these guys were as tough a draw as you could get in their primes.
 
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Stevexjfe

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Fatboy said:
Mike by a nose hair.

Photo finish 🏇🏇

Tough one to call,

At the end of the day, thinking about it, it’s a toss up. Mike was out of the gate a few years earlier than Earl, they overlapped some for a few years then Mike retired at 39 years old. Earl kept playing.

Who played better? Mikes answer, not mine. “About the same, Earl had that high gear in 9 ball-forget about it”.

Fatboy<———don’t shoot the messenger
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Sigel retired in 1994 at 41 years old. Made a short comeback four years late winning the first tournament he entered, the 1998 French Open 9-Ball.
 
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RADAR

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There is no doubt sigel was the best all around tournament player world wide anyone has seen perhaps since Mosconi days! Incredible consistent and played all games to a echelon level. Just ask Efren.
 
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