Here is a 10-question video quiz by Sharivari. I think one or two need more explanation. Comments?
Quick quiz by Sharivari
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The bank shot more angle/less angle one was confusing to me, although now that I think about it, it was just due to wording. "When hitting a bank shot hard, do you have to aim for more angle or less angle?" was the question. I was thinking less angle because harder banks will bank with, you know, less angle. But the answer was more angle because I guess you have to have your aim point farther out so that when the bank is shortened it goes into the pocket. Not how I ever aim banks, and I guess I can understand it now, but poorly worded. "How does shooting hard affect bank shots?" would have been a much better wording.
in the video he shows the line of more angle so the answer was not so ambigious
I thought it was excellent. "When hitting a bank shot hard do you have to aim for more angle or less angle?" The effect of hitting hard is to shorten the path so aim to miss long (more angle) and swing away. RTFQS!
I think he makes a couple of errors. Anyone?
I thought they were all mostly right, just some phrasing could be improved.
The one with shortening the banks when hitting harder I've heard some top players say that is generally true, except when super hard they can start to lenghen again. IDK though from my own ewperincecies its inconclusive to me (the super hard hit).
The one with following the hanging ball in, I'd still play it with draw, but softer speed, not hard.
The one that said how long does the ball stay on the tangent line, should have specified for a cut shot. He showed a straight in shot, and the choices seemed they were for a straight in shot.
The first one was confusing, I think because no one ever phrases it that way, but it seemed correct after he explained it.
The one with shortening the banks when hitting harder I've heard some top players say that is generally true, except when super hard they can start to lenghen again. IDK though from my own ewperincecies its inconclusive to me (the super hard hit).
The one with following the hanging ball in, I'd still play it with draw, but softer speed, not hard.
The one that said how long does the ball stay on the tangent line, should have specified for a cut shot. He showed a straight in shot, and the choices seemed they were for a straight in shot.
The first one was confusing, I think because no one ever phrases it that way, but it seemed correct after he explained it.
Certainly a few trick questions in there that he could have been clearer on, as well as a few of his correct answers that are debatable, in my opinion.
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tomatoshooter
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Yeah, a few of the questions were worded differently than I think most people around here would have phrased them. When the clock is ticking and you are trying to think of things a little differently, it can be tricky.
The one where he shot the 8 through the other ball, I just think of just as hitting softly to let the object ball pick up roll from the table, and where do I leave the cue ball. In 8 Ball I just need to keep it on the table; in 9 Ball, I don't need to make the 8; in 10 Ball, it depends.
When compensating for spin induced throw, I don't aim for the rail, per se. I would just line up the shot and then aim fatter.
I come to the same conclusions but I'm used to getting there a little differently.
The one where he shot the 8 through the other ball, I just think of just as hitting softly to let the object ball pick up roll from the table, and where do I leave the cue ball. In 8 Ball I just need to keep it on the table; in 9 Ball, I don't need to make the 8; in 10 Ball, it depends.
When compensating for spin induced throw, I don't aim for the rail, per se. I would just line up the shot and then aim fatter.
I come to the same conclusions but I'm used to getting there a little differently.
You don't want to be comparing his output to yours...
He would run you over if you played.
I believe the super long/ super hard result is due to the OB leaving the playing surface.
Further, it is possible to hit it hard/ long enough that one or more balls will need to be picked up from the floor.
When I say I'm gonna go knock some balls off the table ...I aint lying.
Just think about how the rail is going to react to a shot with more speed. It’s going to compress more towards the direction the ball comes into the rail. It’s not complicated physics. It just takes some visualization on the fact the rail is going to compress differently depending on the amount of force.
I agree, some of the phraseology was weird.
I answered all but the first one the way he did, so if there are some errors, I probably need to know what they are, so that I can learn something…
The 8 Ball follow shot answer is the way that I would’ve shot it, but you could make the eight ball with any of the four shots in question.
It’s also worth mentioning that the cue ball will not follow the tangent lying for a “stop shot”. A stop shot by definition stops the cue ball dead, it won’t move along the tangent line at all.
I suspect he meant stun shot…
*edited to add that I now understand how I missed the first question… thanks 7stud
I answered all but the first one the way he did, so if there are some errors, I probably need to know what they are, so that I can learn something…
The 8 Ball follow shot answer is the way that I would’ve shot it, but you could make the eight ball with any of the four shots in question.
It’s also worth mentioning that the cue ball will not follow the tangent lying for a “stop shot”. A stop shot by definition stops the cue ball dead, it won’t move along the tangent line at all.
I suspect he meant stun shot…
*edited to add that I now understand how I missed the first question… thanks 7stud
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Your posts are mind breaking.
Hitting the cue ball softly with outside english?
1. You would aim at B if the OE is less than gearing OE.
2. You would aim at C if the OE is equal to gearing OE.
3. You would aim at A, if the OE is more than gearing OE.
Without knowing how much OE the CB is hit with, i.e. how far off center you hit the CB, I don't think you can answer the question.
1. You would aim at B if the OE is less than gearing OE.
2. You would aim at C if the OE is equal to gearing OE.
3. You would aim at A, if the OE is more than gearing OE.
Without knowing how much OE the CB is hit with, i.e. how far off center you hit the CB, I don't think you can answer the question.
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I believe the tangent line is defined like this:
1. Draw a line through the center of the OB to the pocket.
2. Draw a line perpendicular to the line in #1 (which goes through a ghost ball that is behind the OB, touching the OB, and centered on the line in #1).
Note that according to that definition, the tangent line is completely independent of where the CB is. Therefore, the tangent line cannot change unless the OB moves. I think you could argue that depending on which part of the pocket you are aiming at, the tangent line does change slightly--because the angle of #1 would change.
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