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iba7467

iba7467

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In light of the Jimmy Wetch carjacking I was wondering how many of us here have been in this type situation.

Not to bring up bad experiences, but I think alot of us would like to hear and it might help others avoid this fate.


I had a gun pulled on me in a parking lot, but I had nothing on me.

I know of another pool player who went home with a cute girl, then she stopped on the side of the road and her boyfriend came up pulled a pistol made him get out and took him for $3000.

A friend gave a young punk a ride "home" from the pool room. The kid took him to an old house where another guy came out and robbed him.
 
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Just be careful when in dangerous situations. If you have doubts about someone's intentions, act accordingly...even if it means rudely distancing yourself from them or causing a scene.

I had a situation once a long time ago where I was approached by a very good player to play some 9-ball sets. I had seen him play a couple days prior to this and knew he was a professional caliber player capable of putting multiple packs on me. I told him as much and that I wouldn't play without getting a huge spot, i.e. it likely wasn't worth his time. He agreed, and gave me the orange crush in races to 7.

He was dumping so I easily beat him the first two sets. We doubled the bet.

He tried to keep the third set close and get me at the end by leaving me a very tough shot, hoping I would miss either the ball or position. I made it even though I usually can't pull of that kind of shot and he said, "you don't make that shot". I said, "you're right. I usually don't...but I made it that time didn't I". I ran out the rest of that rack and broke and got to the five in the next to with the third set.

I had to leave in about 45 minutes so I told him I had time for one more set and that we could double the bet again if he wanted to. This was not good enough for him. He wanted to more than double the bet and regain all his dumpings and come out winner on one set! I said no to this huge bet increase, saying that we can raise the bet to double or nothing for what I'm owed...but not higher than that.

He started to get angry and up in my face and said something to the effect of, "I'm going to wait for you out in the parking lot and kill you". I could see that he wasn't joking and that I was in a tough spot considering nobody else had heard this. I took about 5 seconds to evaluate the situation and then I raised my voice and started yelling at him for all to hear.

I said, "What is your problem?!? Are you threatening me? I came down here to play some pool...not get threatened. When I lose, I pay...I don't whine about it. I didn't come here to listen to your gangster talk and be told that someone's going to kill me in the parking lot. Perhaps I should walk down to the police station and let them in on your little plan. What do you think they would say to that?"

He turned beet red and left. I was warned by an older guy that he was an extremely dangerous guy (read pimped out Impala) and that I shouldn't have angered him. I had to do something.

To this day, I think I did the right thing. I heard he died a while back. That's the first guy who died that owed me money. :(
 
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Franky said:
Just be careful when in dangerous situations. If you have doubts about someone's intentions, act accordingly...even if it means rudely distancing yourself from them or causing a scene.

I had a situation once a long time ago where I was approached by a very good player to play some 9-ball sets. I had seen him play a couple days prior to this and knew he was a professional caliber player capable of putting multiple packs on me. I told him as much and that I wouldn't play without getting a huge spot, i.e. it likely wasn't worth his time. He agreed, and gave me the orange crush in races to 7.

He was dumping so I easily beat him the first two sets. We doubled the bet.

He tried to keep the third set close and get me at the end by leaving me a very tough shot, hoping I would miss either the ball or position. I made it even though I usually can't pull of that kind of shot and he said, "you don't make that shot". I said, "you're right. I usually don't...but I made it that time didn't I". I ran out the rest of that rack and broke and got to the five in the next to with the third set.

I had to leave in about 45 minutes so I told him I had time for one more set and that we could double the bet again if he wanted to. This was not good enough for him. He wanted to more than double the bet and regain all his dumpings and come out winner on one set! I said no to this huge bet increase, saying that we can raise the bet to double or nothing for what I'm owed...but not higher than that.

He started to get angry and up in my face and said something to the effect of, "I'm going to wait for you out in the parking lot and kill you". I could see that he wasn't joking and that I was in a tough spot considering nobody else had heard this. I took about 5 seconds to evaluate the situation and then I raised my voice and started yelling at him for all to hear.

I said, "What is your problem?!? Are you threatening me? I came down here to play some pool...not get threatened. When I lose, I pay...I don't whine about it. I didn't come here to listen to your gangster talk and be told that someone's going to kill me in the parking lot. Perhaps I should walk down to the police station and let them in on your little plan. What do you think they would say to that?"

He turned beet red and left. I was warned by an older guy that he was an extremely dangerous guy (read pimped out Impala) and that I shouldn't have angered him. I had to do something.

To this day, I think I did the right thing. I heard he died a while back. That's the first guy who died that owed me money. :(
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That was exactly what you needed to do. Make sure evryone knew what was said for one thing. The other was to stand up to him. It don't always work, but when you're in a corner, you have to attack.
I was sitting on a street corner one time on my motorcycle and was approached by 5 guys. They kinda surrounded me and started getting aggressive. The biggest guy, about 6'2" and 250lbs {I weighed about 150 at the time} grabbed the front of my shirt and started telling me he was gonna break my F-in neck. I knocked his hand away and said I don't think so. They let me go with no further problems. I heard from a friend that they beat up another guy shortly after that.
I had a friend in a wheelchair got robbed outside a bar one night as he was going to his van. The guy didn't just pull a gun or something, he actuaaly turned him over in his chair. Robbed him and left him laying there. I was mad enough to kill someone when I heard about it.
 
iba7467 said:
In light of the Jimmy Wetch carjacking I was wondering how many of us here have been in this type situation.

Not to bring up bad experiences, but I think alot of us would like to hear and it might help others avoid this fate.


I had a gun pulled on me in a parking lot, but I had nothing on me.

I know of another pool player who went home with a cute girl, then she stopped on the side of the road and her boyfriend came up pulled a pistol made him pull over and took him for $3000.

A friend gave a young punk a ride "home" from the pool room. The kid took him to an old house where another guy came out and robbed him.
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people these days seem to think it's the wild west out there. if someone already has their gun drawn and comes at you and you reach for yours you're going to get shot
 
I was stabbed 9 times when I was 16yrs old by two 30yr olds and another 16yr old. Three times in the head, twice in the chest, three times in the arm and once in my hand. I spent two days in intensive care and almost two weeks in the hospital.

I am now 25 and the two older guys that stabbed me are still in prison:D one of them wrote me a few years ago asking for forgiveness and told me how his kids want nothing to do with him and they now call another man daddy, Karma is a biatch. The 16yr old actually saved my life by screaming at them to let me live after they took my money, he was sent to jail until his 18th bday.

It still haunts me and I am extremely paranoid to this day.:mad:
 
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We have recently had 14 poolrooms and resturant-bars robbed here in Charlotte NC. It is reported to be three blacks who come in shoot through the ceiling and rob everyone in the place and the cash registers, They hit Moreys Billiards and three nights later hit 5 steps down both places had around 30 customers, one guy charged one of the three and they shot at his feet and he crawled under a table unharmed. The Charlotte police arrived at 5 steps 50 seconds after the silent alarm was triggered and started asking questions instead of searching the parking lot. Theres a few pubs in the area that will have sawed-off shotguns close by so maybe they will pick the right place soon.--Leonard
 
older and smarter

The vast majority of problems can be prevented by prior planning and paying attention to details. I was rolled once, at fifteen. Drunk and stupid but not so stupid that I didn't voluntarily hand over the money. Fortunately I had money in two pockets, they got the very small stack! Soon after that I learned to park the car where there was lights even if it meant across a busy highway and I also learned that a few bucks to a bouncer or just a big guy at the bar could be a good idea.

Often I simply made a point of buying a few beers when I bought my own. When I came in the place I was a stranger but a handful of regulars had me down as a good guy by the time I hit the door. Usually a few large regulars,

Definitely older and hopefully smarter I do a pretty good job of avoiding problems now. First and foremost in avoiding problems is simply being alert. I had a probable car jacker approach my vehicle with forty-five in hand in an empty lot a few years back, got careless picking up chinese food. However I was watching him from the time he started angling my way from several hundred feet away. I wasn't real happy, I had a .357 snubby in hand but was behind the steering wheel of my SUV, he had a 1911 in hand and much more room to maneuver. Never the less when he saw me watching him all the way he decided he didn't like the deal. The bad guys are looking for easy pickings. You don't have to look and act ten foot tall and bulletproof, just like there are easier pickings to be had.

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This is the short version of my Blackstone Billiards story. It happened in Fresno in the mid 70's. I went there to play and ended up winning about $800 total. I was informed by Jim Walker (the owner) that three guys were planning on robbing me when I left. He pointed them out to me. The biggest guy was in the middle.

I looked at them across the room for a few minutes and found myself getting very mad. I had played the best players in Fresno all night and for what. Just to get robbed? No way! I stood up and walked directly across the poolroom and right up to the biggest one, who was much bigger than me (I may have weighed a buck fifty myself). As I got closer the two other guys moved slightly away from the middle guy. I noticed this and got right up in the face of the "leader" of the pack.

I looked him dead in the eye and proclaimed "I understand you are planning to rob me when I leave." To say he was speechless is an understatement. He tried to talk and the words just sputtered out of his mouth. In an instant he looked no bigger than a flea and just as helpless. I did not get robbed that night!
 
Only time I got robbed was in a crap game under the boardwalk in Long Beach, LI, NY around 1957. Al, the guy that ran the game and went on to be one of the bigest coin opperated amusement busineses on Long Island was always a little nuts IMO.

There were about 10-12 guys under the boardwalk when these two hop-heads with sawed-shotguns got the jump on us. I was only about 15 or 16 but I could see these guys were jumpy as hell. All I wanted was to hand over my 80 bucks and hope they didn't start shooting if someome blinked. The soon as they had all the money they started to walk away when Al said, "hey man, can you leave fifty here way I can get the game started again?"

I thought they were going to open fire when they turned around, but they just laughed and backed out of there. Johnnyt
 
I can certainly say i havent been robbed but have been in some bad situations in some of the roughest spots.I have been in a knife fight with someone who had 75 pounds on me and luckily got away unscathed among numerous bar brawls and parking lot fights.I try to be careful when i carry alot of money,i have been out with a few grand in my pocket and sometimes over 5000,i look back on it and dont know why i would carry that much,i wasnt to wise then and felt too comfotable where i would go,most spots i was going to gamble at only needed a few hundred to get into whatever card game or pool game i wanted.

I have been in bars around dealers who had alot of cash but no game and beating them a $100 a game on the bar box and things can get bad,you like the easy money but it might not be so easy when people get ingnorant and want to roll you.

I had one of those guys who is just "the man" at everything,i clean him out and his friend goes over to him and cant believe he has lost hundreds to me,and says this is not happening,were going to get your money back,he says to me that he wants his friends money back,i laugh and tell him his friend shouldnt bet and he would have taken my money if he couldve.Fortunately i got away from that situation as i had no back up there,i mean i knew people but nobody who i could count on,so it couldve gotten bad considering i was white in a nearly all black environment.

I consider myself fortunate to have not gotten robbed or beat up,im a tough kid who has been around but it can happen to anyone even Mike Tyson when your the stranger and taking the local guys money. :)
 
Almost.

During a beer run in the middle of the afternoon, I was pulling into a major chain grocery store parking lot that was pretty full and out at the edge there was a spot, but there were three guys just standing near it that just looked odd for some reason and I kept going looking for another spot. Just sort of an automatic city reflex. As soon as I got out of the car, about 6-7 gun shots rang out. I hit the deck and rolled over behind the engine and front wheel of my car. A car sped away and the police and an ambulance were there in less than two minutes. I got up, and I could see a guy in a pool of blood groaning and crying. The ambulance left almost as soon as it got there and left the guy groaning and crying.

I didn't get a good enough look at the robbers faces, and I couldn't help the police any more as they seemed to have everything under control so I went into the store and bought the beer I came for and when I came out, the guy was still groaning with a few policemen looking on, and then as I got to my car, the groaning stopped and the guy was apparently dead. I hung around for a bit to see what would happen, and then about five minutes later, a second ambulance arrived to take the dead guy away.

After asking around, it finally dawned on me that everything happened at the parking spot I passed up, and found out that the guy groaning was one of the robbers that instead of possibly holding up me, held up the next guy that pulled into the space, who happened to be an off duty cop who fortunately still had his flak vest on and ended up shooting one of the robbers during the holdup. The ambulance took away the cop who turned out okay and they were obviously in no hurry to send another for the robber he shot.

Can't say I blame them.
 
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iba7467 said:
In light of the Jimmy Wetch carjacking I was wondering how many of us here have been in this type situation.

Not to bring up bad experiences, but I think alot of us would like to hear and it might help others avoid this fate.


I had a gun pulled on me in a parking lot, but I had nothing on me.

I know of another pool player who went home with a cute girl, then she stopped on the side of the road and her boyfriend came up pulled a pistol made him pull over and took him for $3000.

A friend gave a young punk a ride "home" from the pool room. The kid took him to an old house where another guy came out and robbed him.
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i had two friends that was robbed with shotguns out siad a room sounds like a set up to me. {southpaw] can you tell this story with out ther namws???:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
We might need to start considering pool a contact sport after reading some of these stories.
 
About this time last year, I was the victim of a series of residential burglaries... All in all, they took my brand new 42" plasma HDTV, a PS2 and controllers, a 360 controller (they left the 360!), a 60gb ipod, my Alpine car stereo, and my Sony MiniDV video camera. Bummer!

I've never had a robbery in person... Although a friend of mine was in Vegas and had a guy pull a knife on the street and demand money. He just turned and ran, they guy didn't chase.
 
Gregg said:
We might need to start considering pool a contact sport after reading some of these stories.
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Sriously is this Thanksgiving or Halloween again? These stories are like nightmares.
 
iba7467 said:
In light of the Jimmy Wetch carjacking I was wondering how many of us here have been in this type situation.

Not to bring up bad experiences, but I think alot of us would like to hear and it might help others avoid this fate.


I had a gun pulled on me in a parking lot, but I had nothing on me.

I know of another pool player who went home with a cute girl, then she stopped on the side of the road and her boyfriend came up pulled a pistol made him pull over and took him for $3000.

A friend gave a young punk a ride "home" from the pool room. The kid took him to an old house where another guy came out and robbed him.
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The stories on this thread are extremely scary... I wonder if the females around here find the pool halls to be as dangerous as the men do? Any stories to share?

(Actually, the reason I ask is I once had a guy shocked and amazed when I told him I frequent pool halls... he wondered how many times my life had been threatened, and I told him to be honest, I've barely even felt uncomfortable in a pool hall before!)
 
lodini said:
The stories on this thread are extremely scary... I wonder if the females around here find the pool halls to be as dangerous as the men do? Any stories to share?

(Actually, the reason I ask is I once had a guy shocked and amazed when I told him I frequent pool halls... he wondered how many times my life had been threatened, and I told him to be honest, I've barely even felt uncomfortable in a pool hall before!)
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These stories seem to have little to nothing to do with pool, and everything to do with gambling.

Just something to consider.
 
Gregg said:
These stories seem to have little to nothing to do with pool, and everything to do with gambling.

Just something to consider.
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This is true... but does that mean women don't gamble very much?
 
Gregg said:
These stories seem to have little to nothing to do with pool, and everything to do with gambling.

Just something to consider.
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I think this stories have more to do with alpha male ego's and ignorance. I haven't ever had any problems.....knock on wood.
 
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