Paypal has to offer the no fee option to compete with the half dozen other no fee electronic payment options. They want you tied in for the times you want the fee based protection. It isn't scamming Paypal when using F&F carries no buyer protection with it.Well if PalPal, or E-Bay catches you scamming them.
They just boot you, and your off their platform.
What is the AZB name?? You have been asked on several posts. Not sure what you expect from AZB users if we have no idea who you are talking about.SCAMMED SO I POSTED ON THE WANTED PAGE, I PERSON WHO HAS A AZ BILLIARD ACCT. CONTACTED ME ABOUT THE CUE I WAS LOOKING FOR AND THEN SEND ME PICS. MAKED A DEAL TOLD ME THE ONLY WAY TO PAY WAS PAYPAL SO I DID. AFTER I PAID ALL COMMUNICATION STOPPED. SO HERE IS THE PERSON, NAME, ADDRESS, PHONE, AND PAY PAYPAL ACCT. BATISTA 401 N. E. MIZNER BLVD BOCA RATON, FL. 33432. 1-352-612-9490, PETER PATS 33, HAVILAH,ESTATE BALLE,GOS 524678, Patspeter34@gmail.com FOUND OUT THE ONLY WAY TO CHAT WAS BY TEXT ONLY. AND HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING SINCE PAYMENT. SO HE SOMEWHERE HERE ON AZ BILLIARDS. THANKS FOR THE POST
Myself, I don't care to know the name at this time. It has been less than a week since the OP reposted his Wanted ad.What is the AZB name?? You have been asked on several posts. Not sure what you expect from AZB users if we have no idea who you are talking about.
if you do f&f for a buying transaction, you are indeed scamming pay pal for their commission. so its like a pick pocket crying about thieves after his car gets stolen while he is out at his work.
what goes around comes around.
if this guy didnt use it then all he has to do is cancel the sale. or if he was smart and used his credit card to fund his paypal he has two ways to stop the sale.
I disagree that it needs input from site management.I have bought 4 or 5 higher end cues ($1,000+ ) off some AZers here in the last 3 years. I paid Pay Pal F&F each time- I did not like it - but never had a problem- thank goodness! I don't think that I will do Pay Pal F&F again - not sure if my CC company would back me if I used F&F - I do not use bank accounts to pay- only CC via pay pal.
If I were running this site I would not allow sellers to request F&F - just state the price you want for your cue- if the Pay pal fees are too much for you to absorb, then add them into your price.
This recent example of fraud has me feeling that I will take no more risks to save a lousy $30 to $60 on fees- just not worth it to me anymore.
I really feel that the site manager here needs to look seriously at eliminating requests for Pay Pal F&F. These ARE business transactions and should be conducted as such- period.
Agree.If people are too cheap to absorb the fees or pay them, they maybe shouldn’t be trusted in the first place.
If they rip off PayPal, why shouldn’t they rip you off, too?
I have only used it a couple of times, so I don’t remember how much they are.Never used PayPal...Are the fees reasonable or like bank overdraft fees?
Nobody is arguing that we all should NOT be paying Pay Pal via F&F, just for the reasons you state- my point was that IMO, if this site is going to have a BUSINESS section- which it does ( For Sale items) - then it should conduct the site in a business fashion and not allow sellers to offer the F&F option.I disagree that it needs input from site management.
PayPal provides notice that that type of payment is without recourse through PayPal and if 3% of the total cost is too much to ensure- insure- you don't get screwed...think about 100% and see which looks better.