Shafts made of Timeless Timer, or Old Growth Wood

FAST_N_LOOSE

<--THE AMAZING JESSE JANE
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I've Had Several.

They Are Very Solid, And Consistant. But To Me, Very Dead Feeling. I've Had Different Makers Retaper, And Make Shafts Using That Wood, And Have Not Liked Any So Far.

P.s. I'm Not Planning On Trying Anymore Either.
 

qbilder

slower than snails
Silver Member
Never used timeless timber's wood for shafts, but I often do use old growth maple. The timeless timber wood is reclaimed logs that have been submerged in deep water for a long time. Old growth wood comes from a tree that is 150+ yrs. old before harvesting. Two totally different lumbers here. Old growth is exceptional wood & very stable, plus very lively. I use it on my personal cue and am very selective of who I will sell it to. The submerged lumber is molecularly different due to a chemical change that occurs over the years under icy cold water & ultra high pressure. It reacts differently than normal wood & therefore will feel different during play. I'm in the middle of some experimentation with submerged lumber, but do not yet have enough experience working or playing with it to give a fair comparison. I will say that it is MUCH different, though.
 

FAST_N_LOOSE

<--THE AMAZING JESSE JANE
Silver Member
qbilder said:
Never used timeless timber's wood for shafts, but I often do use old growth maple. The timeless timber wood is reclaimed logs that have been submerged in deep water for a long time. Old growth wood comes from a tree that is 150+ yrs. old before harvesting. Two totally different lumbers here. Old growth is exceptional wood & very stable, plus very lively. I use it on my personal cue and am very selective of who I will sell it to. The submerged lumber is molecularly different due to a chemical change that occurs over the years under icy cold water & ultra high pressure. It reacts differently than normal wood & therefore will feel different during play. I'm in the middle of some experimentation with submerged lumber, but do not yet have enough experience working or playing with it to give a fair comparison. I will say that it is MUCH different, though.

AGREED, OLD GROWTH IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT. AND IN MY OPINION IS THE BEST SHAFT WOOD AVAILABLE.

P.S. I MISSED THE OLD GROWTH PART OF THE THREAD TITLE.
 
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Juda4936

AzB Silver Member
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Timeless Timer Shafts

I have played with a few Timeless Shalfs and they play OK but they make your hand stink after an hour or so of playing:confused:
I would not buy one just for that reason
 

RoyL

AzB Silver Member
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qbilder said:
Never used timeless timber's wood for shafts, but I often do use old growth maple. The timeless timber wood is reclaimed logs that have been submerged in deep water for a long time. Old growth wood comes from a tree that is 150+ yrs. old before harvesting. Two totally different lumbers here. Old growth is exceptional wood & very stable, plus very lively. I use it on my personal cue and am very selective of who I will sell it to. The submerged lumber is molecularly different due to a chemical change that occurs over the years under icy cold water & ultra high pressure. It reacts differently than normal wood & therefore will feel different during play. I'm in the middle of some experimentation with submerged lumber, but do not yet have enough experience working or playing with it to give a fair comparison. I will say that it is MUCH different, though.

Eric, please tell me that mine are in the mail:)
 

Cuephoric

1hole anyone?
Silver Member
Paul Dayton used to swear by them, but I haven't really heard alot about them in the last couple of years.
I liked the weight and play of them, but never kept anything around long enough (back then) to really decide one way or the other.
Old growth is the way to go for shafts, obviously, although I was wondering how an entire cue would play with the submerged stuff.
Haven't had that opportunity, yet.
 

pawnmon

AzB Silver Member
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Old Growth

I've got a 1 of 1 JAcoby with 2 shafts; 1 is an old growth. Had it for many years. Still can't make up my mind if it's any better than a good quality new growth shaft. It's definately darker in color and has more growth rings.
 

SPINDOKTOR

lool wtf??
Silver Member
I was watching the history channel the other day and they showed some Old logs retrived from the bottom of a lake, as well as older logs dug up, some of these logs looked 18 feet or larger in diameter, when they showed a finished product the grain had a golden hue, it was amazing! I thought Id really like a cue made out of one of those, can you imagine having a cue thats built with 10,000 year old wood?


SPINDOKTOR
 

QMAKER

LIVE FREE OR DIE
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Ancient Kauri Wood

SPINDOKTOR said:
I was watching the history channel the other day and they showed some Old logs retrived from the bottom of a lake, as well as older logs dug up, some of these logs looked 18 feet or larger in diameter, when they showed a finished product the grain had a golden hue, it was amazing! I thought Id really like a cue made out of one of those, can you imagine having a cue thats built with 10,000 year old wood?


SPINDOKTOR

Actually I have made several cues with Ancient Kauri wood for handles and butt sleeves. The wood is carbon dated to 50,000 years and it is quite amazing and expensive. To see some samples visit my web site at www.denalicues.com.

Bob Flynn
International Cuemakers Assn.
 

SPINDOKTOR

lool wtf??
Silver Member
Bob That is way cool! and YES thats the wood I was talking about!!!

Im definately going to your site to check out those examples too....

SPINDOKTOR




QMAKER said:
Actually I have made several cues with Ancient Kauri wood for handles and butt sleeves. The wood is carbon dated to 50,000 years and it is quite amazing and expensive. To see some samples visit my web site at www.denalicues.com.

Bob Flynn
International Cuemakers Assn.
 

Eric Wynne

Banned
Sunken Maple

I 've made 2 shafts out of the sunken maple , one on a jump brake custom 8 pt. that I played with for a while , then gave to John Lewis form Fort Worth and the other on a 6 pt custom I made that I will keep ... The taper is old Szamboti , yet it plays stiff and hits real solid ... I guess the 55 to 60 growth rings might have something to do with it ... simply I love the stuff but hard to get ... I heard SamSara cues had a stock of it but the never replied to my inquiry ... some or most of it is dark in color which most people don't like ... I could care less if the hit and feel is great ... If the balls don't go in you don't get paid ... DSC00006.JPG

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poolplayer2093

AzB Silver Member
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Eric Wynne said:
I 've made 2 shafts out of the sunken maple , one on a jump brake custom 8 pt. that I played with for a while , then gave to John Lewis form Fort Worth and the other on a 6 pt custom I made that I will keep ... The taper is old Szamboti , yet it plays stiff and hits real solid ... I guess the 55 to 60 growth rings might have something to do with it ... simply I love the stuff but hard to get ... I heard SamSara cues had a stock of it but the never replied to my inquiry ... some or most of it is dark in color which most people don't like ... I could care less if the hit and feel is great ... If the balls don't go in you don't get paid ...View attachment 61478

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great looking cue bro
 

JoeyInCali

Maker of Joey Bautista Cues
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brianna187 said:
i met a guy at derby that makes shafts from bowling alley floors
Like Efren's shaft on that $15 cue.

Too much of a headache pulling all those nails and working around their holes.
 

CocoboloCowboy

Cowboys are my hero's
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Eric Wynne said:
I 've made 2 shafts out of the sunken maple , one on a jump brake custom 8 pt. that I played with for a while , then gave to John Lewis form Fort Worth and the other on a 6 pt custom I made that I will keep ... The taper is old Szamboti , yet it plays stiff and hits real solid ... I guess the 55 to 60 growth rings might have something to do with it ... simply I love the stuff but hard to get ... I heard SamSara cues had a stock of it but the never replied to my inquiry ... some or most of it is dark in color which most people don't like ... I could care less if the hit and feel is great ... If the balls don't go in you don't get paid ...View attachment 61478

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Thanks for the photos.
 

HollyWood

AzB Silver Member
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85yr old wood is good so far-

I bought a fillippino cue with the( 85yr.old shaftwood) cue is amboyna burl-cored- with ivory inlays, leather seasnake. Jump cue with same shaft wood(stacked linen jump tip) made from Ambonya burl as well. great cue looks like a million-good enough for Jim Buss to by a jumper or two. mark
 

rhncue

AzB Silver Member
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In the mid-nineties when they were first pushing the sunk log lumber for an exorbitant price they sent my ex-partner and myself a couple to see what we thought of them. After taking a couple of passes on the shaft blanks I gave them both to my partner as there was black bacteria or fungus down in the pores. I didn't like them.

Dick
 

rayjay

some of the kids
Silver Member
I have two timeless timber shafts that Chester Krick roughed out and gave to a friend, who put them in his closet for 8-9 years. My friend gave them to me last year and I had William Lee finish them out (super job) for a piloted 5/16x14 joint. I gave one back to my friend and kept one. I like the way they play, but they are different... Very solid, but not as crisp as I'd like, still a real nice shaft.
:p
 

chaozzzsg

AzB Silver Member
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heyz..i am currently using the old growth by eric crisp and i have to say it is the best hitting shaft i have tried til date, great action on the cueball and the control is effortless..
 
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