Sharing Some of What I've Seen

sjm

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Well, I've been in Vegas since Tuesday evening, and I'm here with my college friend Vinnie who actually brought a laptop. Still, I'm a little pressed for time, andcan only offer bits and pieces of what I've seen so far.

Away from the table, I had the pleasure of meeting John Barton (onepocketchump) and we had a nice chat. John and I have sparred back and forth onthe forum, especially on the subject of jump cues, but we got along famously and I feel I made a new friend,

At the table, I can't say I remember too much from Tuesday, but one match that was a bit painful to watch was Robles vs Manalo, an uneven, poorly played match. Tony was two balls away from going up 8 - 6, but miscued and the tide turned. Tony had a few more good chances but just couldn't get it done, and he lost 11 - 9. For all I'd heard about Manalo, I was sad to see him play at what surely was the bottom of his form. On the other hand, watrching Corr thrash Kajitani 9 - 3 with near perfect play was a real treat.

Wednesday, I saw a lot of pool.

Women's Draw
Ouschan missed just one ball in the entire set against Dos Santos, for a 9 - 0 win. Wendy Jans also cruised impressively in the first match I'd ever seen her play. Wendy pockets very cleanly and plays stun-oriented position (meaning she uses a lot of cetner ball to get around the table) very much in the style of Allison Fisher, and plays very aggressively. Wendy has a bright future. Ewa is certainly the story of the event so far, as she added Chen to a victims list that already included Barretta. Sarah Rousey is on a nice roll, too, and has been wearing very nice clothes to her matches, and looks great. Lee's performance against Nelson was way off form, making Tiffany's work relatively easy. Nelson's safety play was outstanidng and appeared to furstrate Jeanette. In a match that lasted until 1:30 AM, Barretta made a spirited comeback against Janet Atwell. A few early mistakes cost Jennifer, and Atwell really played nicely for a 5 - 1 lead. Jennifer dug down deep, though, and had to come with a very tough seven ball to pull within 6 - 5 and rose to the occasion. Barretta then played at her highest level to close it out, eliminating Janet by 9 - 7. Fisher and Corr both appear to be in their top form, and seem sure to play for the hotseat Thursday evening. There a slight dispute in the Fisher vs Villareal match, and it would appear that referee Tipton misinterpreted a rule to Vivian's detriment and displeasure, which is unfortunate. Still, Fisher clearly outplayed Vivian in that one.

Men's Draw
A nice match early in the day was Baraks vs Morris, my first ever look at Baraks. I was quite impressed. Takahashi was absolutely phenomenal in his win ver Sambajon. The shot that really cost Morris in that one was at 4 - 3 behind, he had no choice but to run into a ball playing shape from the four to the five. Rodney misjudged the carom angle, and lost the cue ball right into the corner pocket. This was the defining moment of the match. A super match was Daulton vs Hemmah. Hemmah had been under my radar until I saw him beat Archer at the World summit in September, but this time I knew I was watching a fine player. Daulton, who appears to have lost about 40 pounds since I last saw him, played well to earn an early lead, but Hemmah played really well to comeback and ultimately sneaked by with a double hill win. Stve Lipsky delighted the New York faithful with a great win over Max Eberle, but had a hard time of it against Immonen, inclduong two missed nine ball in the early stages. Steve has a great tournament! Dave Matlock played well to beat Earl, but lost a nail biter to Robles that was close all the way, 11- 10. Archer and Hohmann are playing the best pool, and my sense of it is that Hohmann's the one to beatthis week.

These Connely's are playing a little on the tight sight by my standards, and a lot of balls are jawing out.

Wish I had more time to share, but if I don't run along immediately to breakfast, I'll be late for the 11 AM round, and there will be none of that.
 
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Thank you very much SJM! :D I hope that between you, Jimmy, and Kay we can get realitive quick updates of winners of the various matches...especially those of then AZ ladies.

Regarding the tables...is it your interpretation that they are better than last years, the same, or worse?

Again, thank you so much! And thank Vinnie for brining along that laptop!!!
 
sjm said:
Wendy Jans also cruised impressively in the first match I'd ever seen her play. Wendy pockets very cleanly and plays stun-oriented position (meaning she uses a lot of cetner ball to get around the table) very much in the style of Allison Fisher, and plays very aggressively. Wendy has a bright future.

:mad: Is she still doing that.... i told her to play more safe! ;)
Hopefully she can do some more damage this tournament.

MH
HOB Weert
 
sjm said:
Well, I've been in Vegas since Tuesday evening, and I'm here with my college friend Vinnie who actually brought a laptop. Still, I'm a little pressed for time, andcan only offer bits and pieces of what I've seen so far.

Away from the table, I had the pleasure of meeting John Barton (onepocketchump) and we had a nice chat. John and I have sparred back and forth onthe forum, especially on the subject of jump cues, but we got along famously and I feel I made a new friend,

At the table, I can't say I remember too much from Tuesday, but one match that was a bit painful to watch was Robles vs Manalo, an uneven, poorly played match. Tony was two balls away from going up 8 - 6, but miscued and the tide turned. Tony had a few more good chances but just couldn't get it done, and he lost 11 - 9. For all I'd heard about Manalo, I was sad to see him play at what surely was the bottom of his form. On the other hand, watrching Corr thrash Kajitani 9 - 3 with near perfect play was a real treat.

Wednesday, I saw a lot of pool.

Women's Draw
Ouschan missed just one ball in the entire set against Dos Santos, for a 9 - 0 win. Wendy Jans also cruised impressively in the first match I'd ever seen her play. Wendy pockets very cleanly and plays stun-oriented position (meaning she uses a lot of cetner ball to get around the table) very much in the style of Allison Fisher, and plays very aggressively. Wendy has a bright future. Ewa is certainly the story of the event so far, as she added Chen to a victims list that already included Barretta. Sarah Rousey is on a nice roll, too, and has been wearing very nice clothes to her matches, and looks great. Lee's performance against Nelson was way off form, making Tiffany's work relatively easy. Nelson's safety play was outstanidng and appeared to furstrate Jeanette. In a match that lasted until 1:30 AM, Barretta made a spirited comeback against Janet Atwell. A few early mistakes cost Jennifer, and Atwell really played nicely for a 5 - 1 lead. Jennifer dug down deep, though, and had to come with a very tough seven ball to pull within 6 - 5 and rose to the occasion. Barretta then played at her highest level to close it out, eliminating Janet by 9 - 7. Fisher and Corr both appear to be in their top form, and seem sure to play for the hotseat Thursday evening. There a slight dispute in the Fisher vs Villareal match, and it would appear that referee Tipton misinterpreted a rule to Vivian's detriment and displeasure, which is unfortunate. Still, Fisher clearly outplayed Vivian in that one.

Men's Draw
A nice match early in the day was Baraks vs Morris, my first ever look at Baraks. I was quite impressed. Takahashi was absolutely phenomenal in his win ver Sambajon. The shot that really cost Morris in that one was at 4 - 3 behind, he had no choice but to run into a ball playing shape from the four to the five. Rodney misjudged the carom angle, and lost the cue ball right into the corner pocket. This was the defining moment of the match. A super match was Daulton vs Hemmah. Hemmah had been under my radar until I saw him beat Archer at the World summit in September, but this time I knew I was watching a fine player. Daulton, who appears to have lost about 40 pounds since I last saw him, played well to earn an early lead, but Hemmah played really well to comeback and ultimately sneaked by with a double hill win. Stve Lipsky delighted the New York faithful with a great win over Max Eberle, but had a hard time of it against Immonen, inclduong two missed nine ball in the early stages. Steve has a great tournament! Dave Matlock played well to beat Earl, but lost a nail biter to Robles that was close all the way, 11- 10. Archer and Hohmann are playing the best pool, and my sense of it is that Hohmann's the one to beatthis week.

These Connely's are playing a little on the tight sight by my standards, and a lot of balls are jawing out.

Wish I had more time to share, but if I don't run along immediately to breakfast, I'll be late for the 11 AM round, and there will be none of that.


I'm sorry SJM, is Steve out now? I wasn't sure if you meant Mika eliminated him.
 
What was the call in the Vivian/Allison match that was cause for dispute? Thanks for the updates.


PJ
 
sjm said:
Women's Draw
Sarah Rousey is on a nice roll, too, and has been wearing very nice clothes to her matches, and looks great.

Someone with a camera get a few shots of what Sarah is wearing. I for one would like to see........

Well, that's OK. I'll get to see on TV when she makes it to the TV round. :)

Mike
 
No second, she also played The Great Lakes Classic, but was nervous there as it was here first time.

MH
HOB Weert
 
OK, the first two day sessions are in the books, and here's what I saw.

First session
White over Hemmah
Chamat over Basavich
Korsiak over Crosby
Kawabata over Souquet
Ouschan over S Hurst
Hines over Paglia
Jans over Kajitani
Little over Ellerby

The truly memorable matchof the session was Jans vs Kajitani, in which Kajitani led 8 - 5, but Jans dug down deep to tie it at double hill. At double hill, Jans had to pocket a six ball into half a pocket to get out, and was up to the challenge, securing a double hill win.

Second Session
Kawabata over White
Engert over Robles
Chamat over Korsiak
Immonen over Takahashi
GY Kim over Rousey
Ouschan over Little
Jans over Hines
Hofstatter over Barretta

Rousey really fought the good fight against GY Kim, and, despite a scratch on the nine at a key moment, Sarah got it to 7 - 7, but never got another really good chance and went down 9 - 7. Barrretta had a chance to get to 6 - 6 with Hofstatter but had a fairly bad miss on a seven ball, and she never recovered. Immonen is catching a serious stroke, and is starting to look very dangerous.

As for round three of the day session, I left fairly early, but noticed the following scores of matches in progress:

Lee led Hostatter 5 - 1
Immonen led Garcia 7 - 4
Jans led Villareal 5 - 3
Chen led GY Kim 4 - 3

Well, I'm looking forward to the evening session. They'll be playing down to three on both sides.

If I have the energy, I'll post something before I go to sleep.
 
Pjadedd said:
What was the call in the Vivian/Allison match that was cause for dispute? Thanks for the updates.


PJ

The rule in play was the one in which a ball is repeatedly tapped to a rail as a safety. After the shot occurs three times, the object ball is considered frozen (whether against the rail or not). Hence, the incoming player would then have to drive that object ball to another rail or send the cue ball to a rail to avoid a foul. As understand it, Tipton informed Vivian that she was required to drive the object ball to another rail, a misstatement of the rule. Acting in reliance of Tipton's ruling, Vivian played a shot that otherwise would not have been played and sold out at a key moment in the match.
 
Thanks for the answer. At least it was 9-5, so it doesn't seem as crucial; it could've been 9-8, which would've really been bad.


PJ
 
Pjadedd said:
At least it was 9-5, so it doesn't seem as crucial; it could've been 9-8, which would've really been bad.
You're probably right, although it's hard to say whether that misinterpretation was instrumental in Vivian's loss - it could have swayed the momentum in Allison's favor. It could also possibly have affected Vivian's attitude (since sjm mentioned her "displeasure"), especially if she figured out Steve's error afterwards; even if the score had been 5-5, selling out the shot could have had an impact on Vivian's subsequent mental outlook.....though hopefully not. That is, I hope Vivian was able to shrug off the bad call and play well anyway!!

BTW, thank you so much, sjm and Pjadedd, for your terrific reporting!! Makes us all feel a little more like we're there, too. :)
 
Thanks, sjm, for the always incisive comments and observations. Looking forward to the report on Hohmann v. Manalo. You say the latter is not at the top of his game, but he's still on the A side in one hell of a tough field! Anxiously waiting to see what happens...
 
SJM, I would like to meet up with you. How about the Splash bar at your convenience. I am listed at the RIV call my room or cell at 630-244-2900.

Thanks,

Eydie
 
sjm said:
The rule in play was the one in which a ball is repeatedly tapped to a rail as a safety. After the shot occurs three times, the object ball is considered frozen (whether against the rail or not). Hence, the incoming player would then have to drive that object ball to another rail or send the cue ball to a rail to avoid a foul. As understand it, Tipton informed Vivian that she was required to drive the object ball to another rail, a misstatement of the rule. Acting in reliance of Tipton's ruling, Vivian played a shot that otherwise would not have been played and sold out at a key moment in the match.

Yep, that particular rule applies only in straight pool. I know, I have gone through the same injustice in a 9-ball ranking event. But, after I hit the object ball three times in a row near the cushion, the jury of the tournament claimed that it's a loss of the rack in process.
:confused:

After that incidence, I always carry a rule book with me. Don't want to be judged by rule-ignorant people.
 
Kerry Impson said:
You're probably right, although it's hard to say whether that misinterpretation was instrumental in Vivian's loss - it could have swayed the momentum in Allison's favor. It could also possibly have affected Vivian's attitude (since sjm mentioned her "displeasure"), especially if she figured out Steve's error afterwards; even if the score had been 5-5, selling out the shot could have had an impact on Vivian's subsequent mental outlook.....though hopefully not. That is, I hope Vivian was able to shrug off the bad call and play well anyway!!

BTW, thank you so much, sjm and Pjadedd, for your terrific reporting!! Makes us all feel a little more like we're there, too. :)



You're welcome, Kerry. I'm actually not there; just reporting what I find from the WPBA website. I'm still mad that the event that used to be held in Valley Forge ended because I go to school 20 minute from there and it's the one event I could get to.


PJ
 
Bob Romano said:
SJM, I would like to meet up with you. How about the Splash bar at your convenience. I am listed at the RIV call my room or cell at 630-244-2900.

Thanks,

Eydie

Is this a pickup and can I come/watch? :p ;)
 
OK, it was a very late night in the tournament room, but there are now three left on each side.

Ewa Laurance beat Tiffany Nelson 9 - 8 to earn a TV match with Karen Corr, with the winner to play Allison fisher for the title on Saturday.

Mika Immonen beat Roschkowski 11 - 7 to earn a TV match with Thorsten Hohmann, with the winner to play Archer on Satureday for the title.

Nelson was three balls from victory when she missed a fairly routine five ball.

Immonen traled 5 - 2, but dug down deep for the comeback victory.

5th/6th Szuter, Manalo and Lee, Kim
7th/8th Kawabata, ????? and Webb, Villareal

Match of the session on the men's side was Archer vs Szuter in the winner's bracket semi. Hard fought and well played up to 7 - 7, and Szuter failed to convert a simple out for an 8 - 7 lead. Looked like it would cost him any chance to win, but breaking with a 10 - 9 lead, Archer landed in a push situation. Szuter ended up playing a super tough cut on the one, and hit it superbly, but the cue ball scratched. As Szuter owned the double hill break and the rack twenty layout was very simple, it's quite possible that this scratch decided the match,

Matchof the session on the women's side was Monica Webb vs GY Kim. Webb played well for an 8 - 5 lead, but Kim fought very hard for a great comeback and double hill win.

Anyone out there that still thinks alternate break is enough to slow down Johnny Archer?
 
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Several fans were wondering whether forty-something Ewa Laurance will become the oldest player to play in the TV round of a WPBA nine ball event.

She will not. Anyone able to answer the question of who the oldest woman to reach the TV rounds ina WPBA nineball event was? Yes, I know the answer.

Will buy a v-drink with some of my v-cash for the first correct answer.
 
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