Shaw 714 DVD

tim913

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In 50 years a DVD will be about as playable as a 78 rpm shellac record is now :LOL:
There’s some 78 rpm records, and I have a few in my ‘future’s safe’, that are worth some money. If I sell them in the future the buyer wouldn’t be playing them. You don’t understand collectibles. In 50 years the 714 would have been all over the Internet and future formats anyway. You wouldn’t buy Babe Ruth’s bat to go out and hit some balls with it .. boy is your face red 🤭
 

skip100

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There’s some 78 rpm records, and I have a few in my ‘future’s safe’, that are worth some money. If I sell them in the future the buyer wouldn’t be playing them. You don’t understand collectibles. In 50 years the 714 would have been all over the Internet and future formats anyway. You wouldn’t buy Babe Ruth’s bat to go out and hit some balls with it .. boy is your face red 🤭
Most "instant collectibles" that are pitched from the beginning as rare or interesting end up not being collectible or valuable.

The majority of truly collectible objects start out as normal, not especially desirable items but happen to become valuable through a combination of increased demand via unpredictable external factors and tight supply.

In your defense, it would certainly be unpredictable if the Shaw 714 DVD is viewed as desirable in 50 years :geek:
 

oknazevad

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In 50 years a DVD will be about as playable as a 78 rpm shellac record is now :LOL:
Less, even. Shellac is a fairly stable substance, and any turntable can still play them so long as they have a 78 rpm setting. DVDs, like all optical discs, will suffer from disc rot in which the layers separate if exposed to widely varying temperatures, and all digital formats are only as good as they player's compatibility.
 

TheLoneSilencer

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Less, even. Shellac is a fairly stable substance, and any turntable can still play them so long as they have a 78 rpm setting. DVDs, like all optical discs, will suffer from disc rot in which the layers separate if exposed to widely varying temperatures, and all digital formats are only as good as they player's compatibility.
Properly cared for optical media will outlast people's life span & that is a fact.
 

Samiel

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I've watched most of the DVD now and I can definitely say it's played at a good pace with a lot of good position play. The table was definitely easier than your standard table. I saw probably 20+ shots go that would not have gone on the tables I play my straight pool league on. Shaw is an incredible player though and I'll bet if the table was tighter he would have bore down a little more. I definitely learned a few things from commentary as well. It's a pleasure so far to watch.
 

kling&allen

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I've watched most of the DVD now and I can definitely say it's played at a good pace with a lot of good position play. The table was definitely easier than your standard table. I saw probably 20+ shots go that would not have gone on the tables I play my straight pool league on. Shaw is an incredible player though and I'll bet if the table was tighter he would have bore down a little more. I definitely learned a few things from commentary as well. It's a pleasure so far to watch.

Did Shaw do the commentary himself?
 

middleofnowhere

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I've watched most of the DVD now and I can definitely say it's played at a good pace with a lot of good position play. The table was definitely easier than your standard table. I saw probably 20+ shots go that would not have gone on the tables I play my straight pool league on. Shaw is an incredible player though and I'll bet if the table was tighter he would have bore down a little more. I definitely learned a few things from commentary as well. It's a pleasure so far to watch.
Coincidentally just last night I watched him play two straight pool matches on accusats. He played great a hundred plus run and each match one match he won in two innings. not exactly the same player you see on that video freewheeling around.

It's two different types and styles of play. Im more convinced now it would not be possible to do 714 as he did on a legitimate piece of equipment, he just couldn't do it. Most definitely on that run an asterisk is required.
 

Nostroke

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Most "instant collectibles" that are pitched from the beginning as rare or interesting end up not being collectible or valuable.

The majority of truly collectible objects start out as normal, not especially desirable items but happen to become valuable through a combination of increased demand via unpredictable external factors and tight supply.

In your defense, it would certainly be unpredictable if the Shaw 714 DVD is viewed as desirable in 50 years :geek:
Very true- Just look at the price of Franklin Mint 'collectibles' of 40/50 years ago or Hummel figures- same thing-worth almost nothing.
 

arnaldo

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I'd like to hear more comments from the new DVD owners about the nature and quality of the audio commentary they heard on the DVD.

Thanks for any replies in that regard.

Arnaldo
 

Texas Carom Club

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Coincidentally just last night I watched him play two straight pool matches on accusats. He played great a hundred plus run and each match one match he won in two innings. not exactly the same player you see on that video freewheeling around.

It's two different types and styles of play. Im more convinced now it would not be possible to do 714 as he did on a legitimate piece of equipment, he just couldn't do it. Most definitely on that run an asterisk is required.

who cares
 

wrldpro

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I'd like to hear more comments from the new DVD owners about the nature and quality of the audio commentary they heard on the DVD.

Thanks for any replies in that regard.

Arnaldo
Well you can just order one and see and hear for yourself. They are only 35.00 now for the remainder of what's kept in stock.
 
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wrldpro

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I don't know, I was making a joke but from your post number 411 maybe I wasn't that far off.
Maybe you need an asterisk next to ass and I'm more convinced after seeing your many post busting Jaysons chops and our event and equipment. Jayson ran over 700 balls on legitimate equipment and thousands of people has seen it. The only run over 526 than more than 5 people have seen unedited footage of.
 

middleofnowhere

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Maybe you need an asterisk next to ass and I'm more convinced after seeing your many post busting Jaysons chops and our event and equipment. Jayson ran over 700 balls on legitimate equipment and thousands of people has seen it. The only run over 526 than more than 5 people have seen unedited footage of.
If I'm such an ass, why to you bother posting to me? In fact, your other post is to a post I think I made like a month ago. Personally, I don't hang with people I don't care for. I suggest you put me on ignore.
 

lfigueroa

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If I'm such an ass, why to you bother posting to me? In fact, your other post is to a post I think I made like a month ago. Personally, I don't hang with people I don't care for. I suggest you put me on ignore.

Sometimes it's fun to toy with silly people.

Lou Figueroa
 

middleofnowhere

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Sometimes it's fun to toy with silly people.

Lou Figueroa
I agree, except that he's dead serious. This entire thread every negative comment cuts him to the quick. He should not be reading any of this or worse commenting.

Have a friend who's a comedian. He told me a long time ago he never reads reviews and he says it's foolish because if you believe the good ones then you have to believe the bad ones too.
 
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lfigueroa

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I agree, except that he's dead serious. This entire thread every negative comment cuts him to the quick. He should not be reading any of this or worse commenting.

Have a friend who's a comedian. He told me a long time ago he never reads reviews and he says it's foolish because if you believe the good ones and you have to believe the bad ones too.

I know Bobby pretty well now.

And believe me, though he takes a lot to heart purely out of his passion for the game, comments such as yours are water off a duck's back.

Lou Figueroa
 

arnaldo

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Well you can just order one and see and hear for yourself. They are only 35.00 now for the remainder of what's kept in stock.
I want to order one Bobby. Likely other addicts like me also will. Will you or Lou or Jayson please post details for obtaining one. Is shipping included in that $35.00 price; I hope so. It would be a smart move to do so.

Greatly looking forward to receiving, enjoying, and studying it multiple times. Who doesn't love when that phase kicks in where you know the guy is totally in the zone -- totally on auto-pilot. As Willie always was, from the get-go and the purity and instantaneity was overwhelmingly beautiful to behold.

Arnaldo
 

wrldpro

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I want to order one Bobby. Likely other addicts like me also will. Will you or Lou or Jayson please post details for obtaining one. Is shipping included in that $35.00 price; I hope so. It would be a smart move to do so.

Greatly looking forward to receiving, enjoying, and studying it multiple times. Who doesn't love when that phase kicks in where you know the guy is totally in the zone -- totally on auto-pilot. As Willie always was, from the get-go and the purity and instantaneity was overwhelmingly beautiful to behold.

Arnaldo
They are in the fir sale section right now.
 
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