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ThinSlice

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I can tell you this for sure, over the last 39 years working on pool tables in the commercial industry, I've seen a lot of changes take place, some good, some bad.

But one of the most impacts I've seen is the cost of cloth going sky high, and because of that, pool room owners as well as bar owners going way to long before replacing the cloth on their tables, seriously effecting the playability and attraction to play on pool tables with cloth clearly worn out. This is not a good thing for this industry when it comes to attracting players to pay the higher rates to play pool.
Then, all the other cloth manufacturers following in the footsteps of Simonis, coming out with THEIR worsted woolen cloth, "just as good as, but cheaper than Simonis just to secure their place in the market as well, everyone is after those sales dollars!!

Because of the cloth wars so to speak, there has been a Domino's effect such as jump cues, faster and faster cloth, higher and higher costs of changing cloth, which cloth should I buy, the whole chain reaction.

Before the worsted woolen cloths hit the market, there was no such thing as jump cues, because you could make a jump shot with your playing cue, no problem.
Today, I swear every player I see playing on a league has a jump cue, and just can't wait to use it, but can't run 3 balls in a row, can't draw the cue back, and have all learned to pity pat the cue ball around the table because the cloth is so damn fast! It's getting to the point that its damn near impossible to level a table anymore because the cloth is so sensitive to ball roll, or grain tracking!

Pool has changed so much, and in my opinion, not for the good of the sport, but rather for the good of the market place sellers!!! This sport has turned into a sales platform for everyone selling anything to do with pool, to the point that those sales platforms could give a shit less about the sport, because if they DID care, they'd be taking a portion of their sales profits and kicking them back into the support of this sport, but they don't, unless it's to sponsor players in the hopes of using those players to create more sales!!!

Its my intentions to do what's right for the sport, not what's best for those that feed off of it!!!

Glenn, your intentions are in the right place. I think that sometimes it’s hard to move the needle in what I consider to be the right direction. It’s kinda like the current political climate where people just follow a trend not knowing anything about that trend. I get into debates here on AZ all the time about pity-pat pool and the speed of tables. It DOES NOT help pool for the table to be faster. Nor do I think over tight pockets help the game. It takes away the stroke of the players which then lends to a boring game. Many will argue this but then many if not most of the current day players have a pity-pat stroke so of course they like the current trend. I find it lame.

Constantly overrunning the cue ball trying to control cue ball speed and then hitting soft to compensate. This does nothing for a persons stroke. It ruins the game is what it does.

I can say that for one pocket, I can understand tight pockets and fast tables because you are forced to hit balls slower a majority of the time just by the nature of the game.

You know I wish and want things to change I am just skeptical about how much you or anyone can make that change effectively. You do have my support however. Whatever that’s worth.


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realkingcobra

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Glenn, your intentions are in the right place. I think that sometimes it’s hard to move the needle in what I consider to be the right direction. It’s kinda like the current political climate where people just follow a trend not knowing anything about that trend. I get into debates here on AZ all the time about pity-pat pool and the speed of tables. It DOES NOT help pool for the table to be faster. Nor do I think over tight pockets help the game. It takes away the stroke of the players which then lends to a boring game. Many will argue this but then many if not most of the current day players have a pity-pat stroke so of course they like the current trend. I find it lame.

Constantly overrunning the cue ball trying to control cue ball speed and then hitting soft to compensate. This does nothing for a persons stroke. It ruins the game is what it does.

I can say that for one pocket, I can understand tight pockets and fast tables because you are forced to hit balls slower a majority of the time just by the nature of the game.

You know I wish and want things to change I am just skeptical about how much you or anyone can make that change effectively. You do have my support however. Whatever that’s worth.


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Just like money changed the game into what it is today, money can make major changes to improve the game for the betterment of the sport as well, those who play the game, will prosper, those who don't, will always complain, yet never amount to anything in this sport other than being a bystander! Just as they've been for years as this game changed into what its become today!
 

ThinSlice

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Careful Glen you have a google snipper on your hands. They will google you to death. I have seen it happen it’s not pretty! Ever watch walking dead? Sorta like that but you can’t find them and they haunt you in your sleep.


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9balltherapy

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Anyone have any updates on Simonis shipping cloth? I am close to being done with my Gold Crown 1 restoration and need some 860 HR in tournament blue.
 

bradsh98

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Anyone have any updates on Simonis shipping cloth? I am close to being done with my Gold Crown 1 restoration and need some 860 HR in tournament blue.
As of yesterday, it is still unavailable. However, I have heard from a reliable third-party source that there is a shipment inbound. Though, I have not been able to confirm.

If you don't want to wait, I would recommend Electric Blue... It is ever so slightly darker, but it matches blue chalk much better. I like it better than Tournament Blue.
 

rexus31

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As of yesterday, it is still unavailable. However, I have heard from a reliable third-party source that there is a shipment inbound. Though, I have not been able to confirm.

If you don't want to wait, I would recommend Electric Blue... It is ever so slightly darker, but it matches blue chalk much better. I like it better than Tournament Blue.
I thought HR only came in Tournament Blue and Green?
 
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