Some neat Jump Shot Videos

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There are are some neat jump shot videos in the web site of Xtreme Billiard Concept showing how the X Breaker jumps. (www.xtremebilliard.com)

1. A girl tried the X Breaker and jump with a FULL CUE table length and made the object ball. She is only 5"5 or so.

2. Double Jump: The cue ball jumped over the first ball, then it jumped AGAIN over the second ball, before it hit the third ball. This video was amazing!

3. Jump with FROZEN cue ball: The cue ball was frozen down one end of the table, the object ball was frozen on the other end. The cue balled jumped, with top left English, went all the way down table for about 8 feet, made the object ball, and came back with spin for the next shot!

4. After you watch the above, jumping over the balls when they are only a ball apart looked relatively easy. There was a video showing a close jump with the cue ball jumped up very high; and then a few other videos showing how this close jump was made with a LOW trajectory.

Please pay attention that the cue ball was always going straight in the videos, and the tip never gave out the "glassy" noise that other jump break cue would.

Please enjoy your visit to the site: www.xtremebilliard.com

Richard
 
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Snapshot9 said:
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Try the following links:

http://xtremebilliard.com/Gallery4/Fancy-jump-shots
http://xtremebilliard.com/Gallery4/FULL-CUE-Jump-and-close-jumps

Click the camera log, click it again and wait a bit, do you still get the error message?

If so, what do you think should be done? Are you using highspeed?

Thank you.
Richard
 
Please click on the projector, not the RSS button. When you go to video, click on the projector, and the video will come up.
Enjoy.
Rich
 
:D :D :D :D :D

I think the double jump and the full cue jump by the girl are really amazing, dont you think so?

By the way, the girl in the video is WPBA pro Hsin Huang.

Thank you.

Richard
 
I have seen nothing on the videos that indicates that this cue is any better than any of the other good break jump cues on the market. Just last year at the Super Billiards Expo I had an APA 4 girl jumping balls with her full normal cue about three balls's width from the blocking ball. With a Fury JB she was jumping one ball away. This was a result of teaching her the proper stroke and technique.

I think it's amazing that the video captions don't mention that a pro is doing the shots. They just say "a girl, 5ft5in".

I will be at the APA next week. I'll bet that the Extreme Breaker cannot beat the Bunjee or the Fury Jump Breaker in a break and jump contest. If anyone cares to bet I have $500 to bet against it. It may tie but it will not be a clearly better performing cue. If I am wrong then someone is $500 richer and Extreme gets a good bump.

Not hating - just setting the record straight.

John
 
nipponbilliards said:
There are are some neat jump shot videos in the web site of Xtreme Billiard Concept showing how the X Breaker jumps. (www.xtremebilliard.com)

1. A girl tried the X Breaker and jump with a FULL CUE table length and made the object ball. She is only 5"5 or so.

2. Double Jump: The cue ball jumped over the first ball, then it jumped AGAIN over the second ball, before it hit the third ball. This video was amazing!

3. Jump with FROZEN cue ball: The cue ball was frozen down one end of the table, the object ball was frozen on the other end. The cue balled jumped, with top left English, went all the way down table for about 8 feet, made the object ball, and came back with spin for the next shot!

4. After you watch the above, jumping over the balls when they are only a ball apart looked relatively easy. There was a video showing a close jump with the cue ball jumped up very high; and then a few other videos showing how this close jump was made with a LOW trajectory.

Please pay attention that the cue ball was always going straight in the videos, and the tip never gave out the "glassy" noise that other jump break cue would.

Please enjoy your visit to the site: www.xtremebilliard.com

Richard
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Are you kidding, I, as well as most anyone else with a little skill, can perform all those basic jump shots with most any jump cue with the right tip. The double jump on the video is just the cue ball bouncing when it hits the table and they have placed a second ball where this is going to happen. The cue nor the shooter has anything to do with the second jump, it is not exactly amazing. The shooter missed the ball by the way. I can appreciate you trying to hustle your cue and make some sales but there is nothing special about those shots? You know this forum is made up of a lot of players not rubes.
 
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Hi John,

How are you doing? Thank you for taking the time to click the site www.xtremebilliard.com and watch the videos.

I think you have come up with a great product when you invented the Bunjee(I hope I am getting the facts right?) and you have really made a difference in the way people looked at jump shots or jump cues ever since. With the Bunjee, even someone whose technique is not perfect can jump. I think that is realy a hugh leap forward. It makes the game a lot more enjoyable and accessible for the general public.

Your Instroke cases is another innovative and revolutionary invention and again, it has made a hugh difference in the billiards industry.

I am sure you took a lot of heat and went through a lot of troubles to promote your products when you first started your venture. I remember reading how you had to switch factories many times and all that.

There is no doubt that the Bunjee is a great jumper and a great breaker. The Fury is an awesome product for the price. I am glad that you have so much confidence in your product. You have to believe in your product before you can turn others into believers.

But the X Breaker is not interested in copying your design like a lot of companies have in Asia, either is it interested in copying the sledgehammer design or the stinger design. The X Breaker is an original jump/break cue engineered to perform in a class of its own.

I do not come to this forum to attack your product or any one else's product. I especially have a lot of respect for what you have done to make jump shot so accessible to all the players. I do not know you personally but I have a lot of respect for what you have acheived as a business person and an inventor.

With regard to the girl making the full cue jump, Hsin is known to be very bad with her break and jump shots among those who know her :) . She used to jump with a Bunjee copy made in Taiwan. She could not jump one ball away consistently and she could not jump with a full cue when she tried a Sledgehammer. Those are the facts.

I do not know if it was because she had bad technique or not. As everyone can see from the videos, now she is not having any problem with her X Breaker at all.

As her friend, I am very happy to see her being able to jump with great control and consistency with her X Breaker.

I hope you have a good show at the APA.

Best wishes,

Richard
 
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In order to perform the double jump shown in www.xtremebilliard.com, the player and the cue are both important. The player has to be able to hit the ball with so much power that the ball jumps very high in its first bounce, and then it needs to have enough energy to bounce again. The second bounce has to be high enough to clear the second ball. The player also needs to have good control on where the cue ball lands on its first jump. The cue has to give a lot of power on this shot. A lot of jump cue would cause the cue ball to masse or miscues when the ball has to be striked so hard.

When the video of the double jump was made, the shooter just placed the last ball where it was and shot away. He made this shot in his first try. For a good player, the second ball can be placed at various positions and the shooter can still perform this shot by adjusting the height of his first jump and on where the ball lands on its first jump. This shot is a test of power and control, the shooter needs to have a powerful stroke and a cue which offers high performance and energy transfer would help a lot.

The Double Jump is a not a trick shot whereas the person can set it up so anyone can just step to the table and make the shot. I am sure a lot of players on this forum are good may be even great players, but I do not think most of them would say that this is an easy shot.

The close jump is another shot that even a lot of professional players would not try in a real game. Of course, with a cue with a phenolic tip,this shot can be done. And it is true that with the proper technique, most players can be taught to perform this shot. But what is the percentage of success for an average player without the proper technique?

Now, they can perform this shot with the X Breaker more consistently without a miscue, and they can do it even if their technique is not perfect. The X Breaker is more powerful and more forgiving. I am not saying the X Breaker is the only cue which can perform, but it is very forgiving and consistent.

The shot whereas the cue ball was frozen on the rail was to show the viewer the kind of control and precision one can get from using the X Breaker. The cue ball was striked with top left english as can be seen from where the cue ball was addressed, and then it jumped, made the object ball, and came back for shape two rails on the next ball. This shot was also done on the first try.

The X Breaker holds chalk a lot better than other phenolic tips so it allows the shooter to make jump shots with spin a lot more consistently. You no longer have to try so hard, and your percentage of success is much higher with the X Breaker.

I will not be at the APA, but I will see you folks at the US Open. Please come to my booth and check out my cues. Thank you very much.
 
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What did you expect him to use...someone who can't jump. The reality is that most "good" J/B's work well. The balance of whether you like it or not from that is strictly personnel. How else can you explain people who uses Meucci's?

Richard is a straight up guy. I don't use his product but know many people who have done business with him. My motto is from time to time things happen. It's how you handle the f'ups that indicate your business ethics and trust worthiness.

Nick
 
Some more info ...

On the www.xtremebilliard.com website there is
a vchat function that you can go into to chat with them.
You have to register, and then you can chat.

I found out that the jump portion of the X breaker is 41" long,
and 11 oz. in weight.

I thought it was funny, because in chatting with him, I asked him
if the girl doing the jumpshots was a 40 year old pro dressed as
a schoolgirl as a joke, and TURNS out she is a pro, but probably not
forty .... lol

I also made a suggestion that a dark gold wrap on the maple, and
a dark tan with white specks on the birdseye X breaker might make
them have a richer look than the white wraps.

It does make me twinge a little to think of putting out that much money
for a cue that I haven't tried in person, but that is just me ....
 
lacey6783 said:
You must get paid by them.You keep posting about them.
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lacey, I don't think Richard has been secretive about his relationship with Xtremebilliard.com. His posts are clearly of a selling nature, and his e-mail address is listed as contact person of 'xtremebilliard.com'. I don't get the impression he is pretending to be uninvolved. So I don't see any controversy here?
 
Thank you for everyone's kind word. I really appreciate them. It is guys like you who make a long hard day of work enjoyable. Thank you Nick, Shinobi, and Snapshot.

I posted on the fourm that the girls in the video was Hsin Huang who is playing on the WPBA tour. No one has ever tried to deceive anyone saying that she was a beginner. Hsin did not really want her name mentioned too much on the site. I understand that since she did not get paid or get anything for free to use the cue or to shot the video. She did everything out of courtesy.

The videos were shot in Guys n Dolls Billiards on Main and Boardway in Vancouver, BC, Canada. It is a very nice pool hall with 11 or so Gold Crown 4 tables with Simon. cloth and a very clean and nice atomsphere. It is a licenced establishment built for and catered to the serious players. The tables are well kept and the music is never too loud. In my opinion, it is the best pool hall in Vancouver and one of the best in BC, Canada. For those who might visit Vancouver, Guys n Dolls Billiards is for sure the place to go to if you want to play on the best tables in Vancouver. It is less than 10 minutes away from downtown.

The owner, Tony, always tries to promote the game by running big tournaments which he would add money out of his pocket(and he never takes money out from the players' entry fee). He also hosted a couple Canadian qualifiers in the hopes of sending local players to the Canadian Championship. I am sure he has done a lot more than what I have just mentioned in regard to promote billiards. He is a definite asset to the billiard industry. Tony was very gracious in allowing the videos to be shot in his pool hall. Thank you.

By the way, the videos in "Standard Jump Shots" in www.xtremebilliard.com were indeed done by a beginner. :) It was filmed in a poolhall called Q 1 Billiard in Richmond, BC, Canada. The shooter just happened to be there when a shooter was needed. :p Needles to say, he was very excited being able to jump for the first time in his life! :)

Richard
 
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nipponbilliards said:
Thank you for everyone's kind word. I really appreciate them. It is guys like you who make a long hard day of work enjoyable. Thank you Nick, Shinobi, and Snapshot.

I posted on the fourm that the girls in the video was Hsin Huang who is playing on the WPBA tour. No one has ever tried to deceive anyone saying that she was a beginner. Hsin did not really want her name mentioned too much on the site. I understand that since she did not get paid or get anything for free to use the cue or to shot the video. She did everything out of courtesy.

The videos were shot in Guys n Dolls Billiards on Main and Boardway in Vancouver, BC, Canada. It is a very nice pool hall with 11 or so Gold Crown 4 tables with Simon. cloth and a very clean and nice atomsphere. It is a licenced establishment built for and catered to the serious players. The tables are well kept and the music is never too loud. In my opinion, it is the best pool hall in Vancouver and one of the best in BC, Canada. For those who might visit Vancouver, Guys n Dolls Billiards is for sure the place to go to if you want to play on the best tables in Vancouver. It is less than 10 minutes away from downtown.

The owner, Tony, always tries to promote the game by running big tournaments which he would add money out of his pocket(and he never takes money out from the players' entry fee). He also hosted a couple Canadian qualifiers in the hopes of sending local players to the Canadian Championship. I am sure he has done a lot more than what I have just mentioned in regard to promote billiards. He is a definite asset to the billiard industry. Tony was very gracious in allowing the videos to be shot in his pool hall. Thank you.

By the way, the videos in "Standard Jump Shots" in www.xtremebilliard.com were indeed done by a beginner. :) It was filmed in a poolhall called Q 1 Billiard in Richmond, BC, Canada. The shooter just happened to be there when a shooter was needed. :p Needles to say, he was very excited being able to jump for the first time in his life! :)

Richard
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No Offense,
But you seriously look like you are spamming this Xtreme billiard jump break cue. Your posts have been more like infomercials than anything else. I have never seen an individual post so much about any one item without any ties to it. The wya you CONSTANTLY post the website, and take the time to give correct addresses if the URL doesn't work for someone else is just a little too much.

I may be wrong, but while I may not be the majority in thinking this way, I am very sure I am not part of a tiny minority. In the last week or so, I have seen an overwhelming number of posts on this cue. Enough already, if you like it so much, buy one. If you want to talk about it - keep it in one thread.
 
nipponbilliards said:
Hi John,

How are you doing? Thank you for taking the time to click the site www.xtremebilliard.com and watch the videos.

I think you have come up with a great product when you invented the Bunjee(I hope I am getting the facts right?) and you have really made a difference in the way people looked at jump shots or jump cues ever since. With the Bunjee, even someone whose technique is not perfect can jump. I think that is realy a hugh leap forward. It makes the game a lot more enjoyable and accessible for the general public.

Your Instroke cases is another innovative and revolutionary invention and again, it has made a hugh difference in the billiards industry.

I am sure you took a lot of heat and went through a lot of troubles to promote your products when you first started your venture. I remember reading how you had to switch factories many times and all that.

There is no doubt that the Bunjee is a great jumper and a great breaker. The Fury is an awesome product for the price. I am glad that you have so much confidence in your product. You have to believe in your product before you can turn others into believers.

But the X Breaker is not interested in copying your design like a lot of companies have in Asia, either is it interested in copying the sledgehammer design or the stinger design. The X Breaker is an original jump/break cue engineered to perform in a class of its own.
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-john- Richard, thank you for the compliments. I know you are not attacking "my" products. You are making claims however that are hard for me to believe knowing what I know about jump and break cues. The claims you make are all things that are currently possible with currently available brand other than the X Breaker. All I am saying is that it is probably not in a class of it's own, at least nothing about the videos indicated that it is. Melissa Morris, a WPBA pro and daughter of Ned Morris (of the AirTime), jumps the ball CONSISTENTLY from less thana chalk's width away with the AirTime and the Bunjee. But, it's not a girl thing, it's a performance thing.


I do not come to this forum to attack your product or any one else's product. I especially have a lot of respect for what you have done to make jump shot so accessible to all the players. I do not know you personally but I have a lot of respect for what you have acheived as a business person and an inventor.

With regard to the girl making the full cue jump, Hsin is known to be very bad with her break and jump shots among those who know her :) . She used to jump with a Bunjee copy made in Taiwan. She could not jump one ball away consistently and she could not jump with a full cue when she tried a Sledgehammer. Those are the facts.
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That may be so but it was not indicated on your website. I perosnally believe that with the proper instruction then Hsin would have learned to jump with a full cue, and any jump cue available. It is obvious to me from the videos that she is using the proper technique. The X-Breaker could not have taught her that. With the technique she uses on the video she would have been able to make the same jump shots with a variety of cues.

I do not know if it was because she had bad technique or not. As everyone can see from the videos, now she is not having any problem with her X Breaker at all.
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As her friend, I am very happy to see her being able to jump with great control and consistency with her X Breaker.

I hope you have a good show at the APA.

Best wishes,

Richard
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I am happy to see anyone imporve their game and add to their skill set. I am against saying that it is the cue that does it. Richard, you have watched me fight against this attitude for years. I have seen people jump a ball with a dollar bill frozen between them without disturbing the bill. There is no way on earth that this is a result of the cue alone.

The videos seem to indicate that the cue does all the work. It doesn't. I have seen breaks like those with the Bunjee, The Fury, the Sledgehammer, The Stinger, normal cues and house cues. I have seen those jumps with every brand of jump cue out there.

The only secret to jump cues is a super hard tip and the right balance. The secret to a break cue is ????? The right timing in combination with the right rack, cloth speed, pocket size, humidity level......

No one to date had done any kind of published test that conclusively proves that any cue is "better" than any other for breaking. If speed is a criteria then the Fury J/B was found to be the fastest by Platinum billiards. What does that really menan though?

As for chalking the tip and controlling the cueball. I play pool with the Fury JB, use draw, follow, and sidespin. So I don't see how the X-Breaker could be better than that with a harder tip.

And as far as the tip being twice as hard as the phenolics. The Fury Tip and The Bunjee Tip both rate about a 90 on a durometer. A durometer goes from zero, meaning no resistance, to 100 meaning no penetration. So, to be 'twice" as hard I would have to say that the material would run the chance of chipping the balls which is what all the naysayers use as an argument against jump cues.

It is important to seperate the hype from reality. The X-breaker may very well be an improvement over existing jump/break cues. I hope it is. It can only elevate the experience for all of us if it is. I have said this before and I will be crucified for it again. I believe that the jump cue is an innovation that ranks up there with the leather tip. So, just as layered tips are an improvement there, I hope the X-breaker is an improvement in jump cues. All I am saying is prove it. Put it in the box up against the existing brands and prove that it is better.

John
 
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