squatting the rock

StormHotRod300

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Ok, when i play on a 7ft table, i dont really have a problem getting the CB to stop near the center of the table, but i can also break alot harder.

But when i play on a 9ft, i have serious problems trying to get the CB to stop near the center of the table, when breaking from the side rail.

When i break from the Box, i can break harder and still control the CB more, and i do this by hitting the CB about 1/2 tip higher on the CB so it comes back out the center of the table.

Now when i break from the side rail, i try to hit the CB solid, but normally the CB ends up going towards the side pockets which causes me to scratch alot. I try using other types of english when breaking from the side rail but i get the CB going all over the place.

Anyone have any info on what i should try when breaking from the side rail?

dave
 
StormHotRod300 said:
I try using other types of english when breaking from the side rail but i get the CB going all over the place.
dave

Well, as a rule: English + break = trouble
 
Obviously, lol

I only try it to see if i am missing something like if i put a lil bit of english here or there, would cause the CB to come back to the middle of the table, or to kill it after it hits the rack.

I know i have read the stuff, Blackjack has on his Webpage, about breaking, and it seems like when i try and break the way he explains it, it helps me to control the CB more, but i obviously forget about that after a while and end up going back to my old ways.

dave
 
There's a very informative book on the break called The GREAT Break Shot written by AZB's own CeeBee (Charley Bond) with some additional info from Joe Tucker....I'd say just about anything you'd ever want to know about breaking is covered there. And to make practicing your break effortless, Charley's BreakRAK is the NUTS, absolutely! Imagine being able to practice your break over and over with hardly a pause, without having to rack the balls, and getting the perfect rack every time? I used to never practice my break because of the tedium of racking them over and over and trying to get a good rack; now I would say my break has improved at least 30% since I started practicing with the BreakRAK. Check it out at: http://www.breakrak.com
 
Kerry,


I have seen the Breakrak, thingy lol, and i am sure its worth buying it. Expecially if you have a table at home.

I normally do spend a good amount of time when practicing, working on my break. But its not like i have anyone watching me or saying, maybe you should try this or that.

I will check out that book by Ceebee, and see what i can learn.

dave
 
StormHotRod300 said:
Ok,

But when i play on a 9ft, i have serious problems trying to get the CB to stop near the center of the table, when breaking from the side rail.

When i break from the Box, i can break harder and still control the CB more, and i do this by hitting the CB about 1/2 tip higher on the CB so it comes back out the center of the table.

Now when i break from the side rail, i try to hit the CB solid, but normally the CB ends up going towards the side pockets which causes me to scratch alot. I try using other types of english when breaking from the side rail but i get the CB going all over the place.

Anyone have any info on what i should try when breaking from the side rail?

dave


Why are you so hung up on breaking from the side rail if you're getting good results from the box or elsewhere? Just break from there.
However, if you must break from the side rail...elevate the butt of your cue.
How much?? I can't tell you, you're just going to have to experiment from a little to a lot and see what works best. It's going to cause the CB to jump in the air upon impact, but it will squat when you get it down pat. You'll also have to figure out how much force to use. Too much elevation and force and you might fly it off the table. However, quit using the english and go to that in order to not have the CB flying around for a scratch or bad position.

Some guys don't like this approach, I do.
 
StormHotRod300 said:
Now when i break from the side rail, i try to hit the CB solid, but normally the CB ends up going towards the side pockets which causes me to scratch alot. I try using other types of english when breaking from the side rail but i

usually that happens when you don't hit the 1 square enough
 
If you're breaking from the side rail and whitey is finding a side pocket, you're not hitting the 1 ball dead on. It's easier said than done - focus on making a square hit on the 1 ball, and those side pocket scratches will disappear. When I practice the break, I start off with about 30% of full speed, concentrating on making solid contact and planting the cue ball. I'll gradually build up to max speed, but all the while, I want that square contact. Once I get up to speed, though, I'm not really trying to squat the CB. I'm trying to make a corner ball and get the 1 ball to come back toward the corner I'm breaking from. I'm also trying to get the CB to come back towards the end rail I'm breaking from (not ON the end rail, just within a few feet or so). I've found that this keeps whitey more out of trouble, and tends to leave good shots on the one.

-djb
 
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