Statement from The Legends of Pocket Billiards

lfigueroa

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Ok Lou, let’s take a rest on this for now. I really don’t know why you guys are so afraid to release the specs. The 714 run is not in question, but everyone, especially those that are planning to attempt to beat this record (and there are only a select handful that could) have a right to know they are playing on a level playing field - a table with identical specs - preferably this very table, unaltered except for new cloth!

I don’t believe, in this sport, anyone has a “right” to anything.

If we had a “right,” we’d know all the specs of Mosconi’s table, Schmidt’s table, how about any other pool record out there?

We do not. There has never been any demonstrable “right” for anything.

Lou Figueroa
 

Cameron Smith

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I don’t know if this has been answered yet, but I guess the important question is, are the full specs being provided to the BCA?
 

ribdoner

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I don’t believe, in this sport, anyone has a “right” to anything.

If we had a “right,” we’d know all the specs of Mosconi’s table, Schmidt’s table, how about any other pool record out there?

We do not. There has never been any demonstrable “right” for anything.

Lou Figueroa

understood, however, the point is what's the "RIGHT" thing to do

i don't see merit in compounding "WRONG", i don't think you do either

Sincerely, adam
 

ChrisinNC

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I don’t believe, in this sport, anyone has a “right” to anything.

If we had a “right,” we’d know all the specs of Mosconi’s table, Schmidt’s table, how about any other pool record out there?

We do not. There has never been any demonstrable “right” for anything.

Lou Figueroa
OK, your last post makes it very clear what your guys future intentions are, if you can’t even agree to my last statement. Very sad. Jayson Shaw certainly deserves better than to have gotten dragged in to this.

For some of those who may have thought John Schmidt’s effort was a little fishy, you guys have managed to make John look squeaky clean by comparison!
 
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realkingcobra

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imagine if the way we acted on the internet translated into real life. a bunch of avid pool fans all gathered around the derby to celebrate pool and some of you guys just walked up to some of those guys and started yelling and screaming about the dimensions of their pockets. what a funny world we live in.
Funny thing is circus pool tables only come in one singular, special event tables! Not a tournament room filled with them, so your comment has absolutely no merit.
 

lfigueroa

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OK, your last post makes it very clear what your guys future intentions are, if you can’t even agree to my last statement. Very sad. Jayson Shaw certainly deserves better than to have gotten dragged in to this.

For some of those who may have thought John Schmidt’s effort was a little fishy, you guys have managed to make John look squeaky clean by comparison!

I’m sorry we made you sad.

Lou Figueroa
 

Johnny Rosato

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Now you’re just proving yourself to be a troll.

Lou Figueroa
For asking a legitimate question?
In post #345 I quoted this from Bobby, "My stream is free, it will always remain free, so you can watch it all you want, share it all you want."
And now I'm proving to be a troll for asking how far the next stream will go if the 714 record looks to be approached.
Come on Lou.
 

ChrisinNC

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I’m sorry we made you sad.

Lou Figueroa
Lou, I’m passionate about our sport and have enjoyed this debate, but I’ve obviously been neglecting other tasks I need to do this evening, Now that RKC is back to fight the good fight - I’m signing off.

And yes, I am sad that I am not at the Derby - I’ve always wanted to go, but running a poolroom is a demanding lifestyle!
 

lfigueroa

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BTW, I have just spoken at length with Bobby (who has just spoken to Jayson) and I have also spoken minutes ago to a well known table mechanic who is here at the Derby and discussed photos of our pockets and we, the Legends of Pocket Billiards, are good.

I stand by what we have provided here about the pockets.

Lou Figueroa
 

realkingcobra

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From anywhere you want to place them on any size regulation pocket pool table.
You have finally found the only real 14.1 Continuous Billiards Pocket Pool player living.
Is that a fact, then I guess I can assume your name is on the list of players shooting for the record high run, right?😉
 

xradarx

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Is that a fact, then I guess I can assume your name is on the list of players shooting for the record high run, right?😉
It is a fact.
You assume too much already. I am not now, and never have been on anyone's list.
They, just like you, have no idea of who(m) I am.
 

realkingcobra

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That’s fine but you’re not talking to a novice on the issue of credibility.

And as close as I can tell that’s not a photo it’s a screen capture. I’ve also played on tables Ernesto has worked on so I have experience with those too.

Lastly, you can believe what you want. I know what I know ;-)

Lou Figueroa
I too have worked on lots of GC's after Ernesto has worked on them, and I can say without a doubt the pocket openings won't match up in all 4 corner pockets. And I too have credibility when it comes to picking pool tables apart, have have 40 years of experience in my trade work.
 

soyale

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Funny thing is circus pool tables only come in one singular, special event tables! Not a tournament room filled with them, so your comment has absolutely no merit.
i wasn't really being that specific about which tables this hypothetical person would be yelling about, just that they would be yelling. you could go to DCC and walk up to the LOPB event runner and start complaining about the pockets at his event. that would be hilarious. that's all i was putting forth. i seek no merit.
 

realkingcobra

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It is a fact.
You assume too much already. I am not now, and never have been on anyone's list.
They, just like you, have no idea of who(m) I am.
Yep, usually people of no importance are hard to remember, because there's no reason to remember them.
 

lfigueroa

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For asking a legitimate question?
In post #345 I quoted this from Bobby, "My stream is free, it will always remain free, so you can watch it all you want, share it all you want."
And now I'm proving to be a troll for asking how far the next stream will go if the 714 record looks to be approached.
Come on Lou.

You did not ask a legitimate question.

You asked:
“At what point will the free stream be stopped in the future if the new record of 714 is threatened,
in order to protect that players financial interests? 525, 625, 700, or maybe stop it at 713?”

Implying we were concerned about the record being broken and that would be cause to stop a stream.

The stream broke. It was an accident.

Lou Figueroa
troll
 

ribdoner

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BTW, I have just spoken at length with Bobby (who has just spoken to Jayson) and I have also spoken minutes ago to a well known table mechanic who is here at the Derby and discussed photos of our pockets and we, the Legends of Pocket Billiards, are good.

I stand by what we have provided here about the pockets.

Lou Figueroa

i apologize for my post if specs/details have been made available

can you supply a link to the above referenced data

THANKS
 

realkingcobra

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i wasn't really being that specific about which tables this hypothetical person would be yelling about, just that they would be yelling. you could go to DCC and walk up to the LOPB event runner and start complaining about the pockets at his event. that would be hilarious. that's all i was putting forth. i seek no merit.
Except for the fact that I've been working with Diamond for the last 22 years, a d was instrumental in the design of their coin ops and ProAms, and the change over from the playability of the red label to blue label rail system. I also was instrumental in the perfection of Diamonds pocket design, but we don't need to get into all of that, right?😉
 

ChrisinNC

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I too have worked on lots of GC's after Ernesto has worked on them, and I can say without a doubt the pocket openings won't match up in all 4 corner pockets.

Glen, that’s really smart of you - you’re now criticizing Ernesto - easily the most well respected, knowledgeable, experienced, hard working (and sadly underpaid) pool table mechanic in the business, not to mention one of the nicest human beings on this earth.

Oh I forgot, possibly one of the best playing 67+ year old players in this country, and he never practices!
 
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