Statement from The Legends of Pocket Billiards

[Fatboy]

I'll take 100-has to be his next try which i realize could be over several days.

Booked, no bet if less than 4 full days. That cool?

Full day is say 7 hours?

Just trying to give him enough time to make it a solid attempt to protect my bet.

I’ll listen you any idea you have. Just a fun sweat bet.

I’m betting that a guy will break a 50 year old record with 28 hours(on the low or 4 days full days-if he plays longer then it’s the day count) of attempts…..

Maybe I like your side, but I’ll still be he does. I just need a fair amount of time. I believe in him and he isn’t going there to waste time.

All in good fun, please lmk.

Thx
Fatboy<———-skipping his GA meeting today

 

[Nostroke]

Booked, no bet if less than 4 full days. That cool?

Full day is say 7 hours?

Just trying to give him enough time to make it a solid attempt to protect my bet.

I’ll listen you any idea you have. Just a fun sweat bet.

I’m betting that a guy will break a 50 year old record with 28 hours(on the low or 4 days full days-if he plays longer then it’s the day count) of attempts…..

Maybe I like your side, but I’ll still be he does. I just need a fair amount of time. I believe in him and he isn’t going there to waste time.

All in good fun, please lmk.

Thx
Fatboy<———-skipping his GA meeting today

Not sure i follow all that- are you saying the bet is over after 28 hours of play? this is the part i dont get

28 hours(on the low or 4 days full days-if he plays longer then it’s the day count

U know what-no bet-too much room for confusion and im not counting hours

 

[Fatboy]

Not sure i follow all that- are you saying the bet is over after 28 hours of play? this is the part i dont get

28 hours(on the low or 4 days full days-if he plays longer then it’s the day count

U know what-no bet-too much room for confusion and im not counting hours

I agree, let’s have fun with no action

Best
Fstboy

Enjoy the show, it’s great for pool! Big high runs or not-it’s a win for everyone

 

[xradarx]

I have long said that the reason Willie Mosconi was so valuable to Brunswick is that he made it look so easy that anyone could buy a table and start running racks! I watched old video of Willie when he was "on". Very very few shots over thirty inches total, cue ball to object ball to pocket. I don't remember him pocketing a ball that day that the average bar room banger couldn't pocket. The other side of that coin is that John and Jane Doe watching wouldn't see the magic of that run. Anyone could see the magic of Efren, the less flamboyant magic of Willie could slip right by those that didn't play pool.

I never played straight pool but sometimes after matching up with someone for an hour or three their young lady would come up to me, "That wasn't fair, you got all the easy shots!" "Yes ma'am, it goes that way sometimes."

Hu

For Review only:
Since I don't have much else to do during the pandemic, I extracted Mosconi's World Championship winning performances from Charlie Ursitti's records. This starts from the first one he won in 1941. Note that in 1933 he lost by a single ball. From 1941 to 1956 there were some other championships he didn't win; this is just a list of those he did win.

WCL = World Championship League
WCT = WC Tournament
WCM = WC Challenge Match

1940-1941 WCL 32xRR? 12 players Mosconi 176-48, Ponzi 144-80 (224 match season) multiple cities

1942 Dec. WCT 6 player DRR, Mosconi 9-1, Ponzi 6-4, Detroit

1944 Feb. WCM 10 blocks of 125, Mosconi 1250, Ponzi 924, KC, MO

1945 Feb. WCM 48 blocks of 125, Mosconi 5498, Greenleaf 3738, KC, Chi., NYC, Det.

1946 Mar. WCM 86 blocks of 125, Mosconi 8727, Caras 7508, 10 locations

1946 Nov. WCM 30 blocks of 125, Mosconi 3750, Crane 2919, 4 rooms

1947 May, WCM 16 blocks of 125, Mosconi 2000, Crane 918, Perth Amboy + Chicago

1947 Nov. WCM 32 blocks of 125, Mosconi 4000, Caras 2334, Det., Perth Amboy, KCMO

1948 Mar, WCM 9 blocks of 150, Mosconi 1350, Ponzi 643, Chicago

1950 Feb, WCT, 4-player DRR to 150, Mosconi 4-2, Crane 4-2 (playoff), Chi.

1951 Jan, WCM, 20 blocks of 150, Mosconi 3000, Crane 2323, Phila. and KCMO

1951 Feb, WCT, 4-player DRR to 150, Mosconi 6-0, Crane, Chenier and Canton all 2-4, Chicago

1952 Apr, WCT, 10-player RR to 150, Mosconi 8-1, Crane 7-2, Boston

1953 Mar, WCT, 9-player RR to 150, Mosconi 8-0, Procita, Caras, Moore, Crane tied at 5-3, San Francisco

1954 Mar, WCM, 16 blocks of 150, Mosconi 2400, Procita 989, Phila. and Chi.

1955 Nov, WCM, 10 blocks of 150, Mosconi 1500, Crane 676, Phila.

1956 Jan, WCM, 42 blocks of 150, Mosconi 6300, Caras 3007, 6 cities

1956 Mar, WCM, 12 blocks of 150, Mosconi 1800, Moore 879, Albuquerque

1956 Apr, WCT 8-player RR to 150, Mosconi 14-0, Crane 10-4, Kinston, NC


Note that beginning in 1950 the matches seem to have been played on 4.5x9-foot tables. Prior to that 10-foot tables were standard. It's not clear but some of the challenge matches in the 1950s may have been on 10-foot tables.



Bob Jewett
SF Billiard Academy

Instead of being in awe of 18" shots by Mosconi in hi-runs.
Look at the "Killer Attitude" displayed in those World championships, Match play and League or Round Robins.
Mosconi had no mercy for any opponent, even Ralph Greenleaf, Caras, Irving or anyone else.
Can you imagine this talent playing today's best, and in full attack mode?
No Mercy.
14.1 was his job, not a playground.
He would just turn it up a notch at anytime against anyone.
He will always sit atop the 14.1 Throne. None better.

 

[arnaldo]

Throughout my 70 years -- since 1952 at age 16 -- of being ridiculously addicted to my beloved Straight Pool, bottom line for me has always been the sheer, almost god-like fascinating skill and beauty on display when a born 14.1 master like Willie, John Schmidt, Ruslan, and now Jayson -- gets in that automaton zone where rack-after-rack, their short-position play is dead-on perfect, and the stroke to get micro-accurate on the break ball is dazzling (and hugely instructive) to behold.

Then we addicts, later set up the situations we viewed, and benefit from -- by repetition -- trying to emulate those micro-positioning strokes. What could be better for continual improvement of your 14.1 game, than such exemplars as role models?

Arnaldo ~ Still crazy about this particular game after all these years. Hope St. Peter or Moses has an eternally-durable table waiting for me, about 20 years (or more) from now.

 

[xradarx]

Throughout my 70 years -- since 1952 at age 16 -- of being ridiculously addicted to my beloved Straight Pool, bottom line for me has always been the sheer, almost god-like fascinating skill and beauty on display when a born 14.1 master like Willie, John Schmidt, Ruslan, and now Jayson -- gets in that automaton zone where rack-after-rack, their short-position play is dead-on perfect, and the stroke to get micro-accurate on the break ball is dazzling (and hugely instructive) to behold.

Then we addicts, later set up the situations we viewed, and benefit from -- by repetition -- trying to emulate those micro-positioning strokes. What could be better for continual improvement of your 14.1 game, than such exemplars as role models?

Arnaldo ~ Still crazy about this particular game after all these years. Hope St. Peter or Moses has an eternally-durable table waiting for me, about 20 years (or more) from now.

Willie Hoppe is the headliner, I hear, can you dig that?
I heard he had said that his idea of Heaven, was "just one big pool table in the sky"!

 

[justadub]

Guthrie?

Yes.... Lou was quoting lines from Alice's Restaurant and a couple of us joined in. Arlo and I share the same birthday, a "few" years apart....

 

[arnaldo]

Willie Hoppe is the headliner, I hear, can you dig that?
I heard he had said that his idea of Heaven, was "just one big pool table in the sky"!

More likely a 3C table would be Heaven for him. I've heard he's played some, a time or two

Arnaldo

 

[AtLarge]

For Review only:
Since I don't have much else to do during the pandemic, I extracted Mosconi's World Championship winning performances from Charlie Ursitti's records. ...

Here's the thread in which that list was originally posted by Bob Jewett about a year and a half ago. The thread has some additional information of interest.

Willie Mosconi's World Championships

Since I don't have much else to do during the pandemic, I extracted Mosconi's World Championship winning performances from Charlie Ursitti's records. This starts from the first one he won in 1941. Note that in 1933 he lost by a single ball. From...

forums.azbilliards.com

 

[nick serdula]

Hay Bobby. Great job.
Nick

 

[kanzzo]

It would be really valuable to see a video of someone making Mosconi's break shot, 9 times out of 10.

10 out of 12 was best, what I could come up with yesterday...

 

[Dead Money]

I'm ready to see the next Champ up!

 

[Z-Nole]

this time have him do it in a pool room with diamond regulation tables. with the public allowed to watch. then we would have nothing to argue about.
and he can rightly say he has broken and made a true worlds record.

Ya, what he said. Except not on a piece of shit Diamond. And you should fly us all up there to watch. Cuz if I didn't see it live it never happened. And you must have some rum. Not that shitty Bacardi crap either. Good sipping rum. Oh, and as long as we are telling you how to run your shit there Damn well better be some stone crabs. And fish dip. Wait, I will bring the fish dip- no one makes better. And don't forget the F'ing cigars. If you get that all set up there's a really good chance we can all agree on whatever the hell it is we are disagreeing about. I can always bring some wine to help mediate any issues that come up. PM me when it's all set up, I'm fishing tomorrow so the dip will be fresh.​

 

[Dead Money]

Ya, what he said. Except not on a piece of shit Diamond. And you should fly us all up there to watch. Cuz if I didn't see it live it never happened. And you must have some rum. Not that shitty Bacardi crap either. Good sipping rum. Oh, and as long as we are telling you how to run your shit there Damn well better be some stone crabs. And fish dip. Wait, I will bring the fish dip- no one makes better. And don't forget the F'ing cigars. If you get that all set up there's a really good chance we can all agree on whatever the hell it is we are disagreeing about. I can always bring some wine to help mediate any issues that come up. PM me when it's all set up, I'm fishing tomorrow so the dip will be fresh.​

You forgot the "pros" for us to play with during breaks and I do not mean pool players.