Table Purchase Advice

BillYards

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I need some opinions regarding this table that came up for sale yesterday... It will need new cloth and has some damage on the legs caused by cats scratching on it. It also has a ball return, which I am indifferent about.

The price is $2,800. I am assuming I will be transporting, assembling, and re-felting.

Any thoughts regarding this table?
 
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I am not in the market for a table and don't know any prices. But I would get a table that I liked. There are always tables available.

I would recommend drop pockets. What I don't like about returns is fishing for the cue ball when scratched. It is also easier to grab a ball out of the pocket when practicing shots. Returns are also noisy. The other thing I don't like about the table is the metal caps and counter. They will eventually damage your cues.
 
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Don't know where you live but that price seems very high for a Murray - especially with the additional $$$ you are going to have to pay to put it in shape.

I recently bought a Gold Crown III and did a lot of homework/research before the purchase.

Here are my Cliffs Notes on buying a table--

Buy a Gold Crown or a Diamond (should be between 1800-2K for GCIII)

Find the top table mechanic in the area & pay him to look at it before you buy.

Make a deal with him that regardless of what table you buy, you will have him do the pick up and set up - get a price and offer him $50 above that.

Put Tour Edition or Granito Basalt cloth on!!

Finally

If you are married or have a non-playing pool person in the house - hide your best cues and don't tell them where they are at!!!!! Ha

Enjoy - hope that helps!
 
I live in Puerto Rico and tables are a rare commodity here...

I certainly appreciate the advice! Thanks guys!
 
There is a tournament in Puerto Rico. I don't know where it will take place, but if it is not in a pool hall they may sell them at a reasonable price after it is over to avoid handling, storage and etc. You may want to look into that. I would also try to get a Diamond or Brunswick.
 
Thanks, Book... this table is from a past tourney... I can get a fairly new GC and light for $7k, which is out of my price range (almost by a decimal point).

Tables are not cheap here. I have never seen a Diamond on the island either...

If I bought one, all of the shooters would be over at my house every night!
 
As a table mechanic I see tables everyday. Then sadly I go shoot at a pool hall at night. But there are some signs to look for.

First off make sure it isn't a 1peice slate. 1 way to check is to feel underneath the bumper on the slate and you should feel 2 holes close together somewhere between the 2nd diamond and the 3rd. Sometimes for some reason mechanics fill those in so look under the table too. If you see wedges in the middle of the table it is a 3peice. And if the slate hangs over the frame you'll see the gaps.

Also make sure it is backed slate. Or has wood backing. If it was less than $1,000 it wouldn't be as big of a deal. But for that money you can find better. But being in Puerto Rico I understand your plight. But by looking under the table you should be able to tell.

If the cloth is in decent condition I would keep the cloth. A good mechanic can take the cloth off and put it back on just as you see it there.

The table to me looks like a cross between a Diamond (with the legs), Gandy (rails, blinds, ball return), and a Valley coin-op (With the textured corner/side pies and corner covers.

Also make sure the slate isn't cracked. You can say that your not going to pay him immediately but will schedule the appointment at a time both you and the owner can meet there and watch it taken apart. And state that you will buy it as long as the mechanic (Your paying) is there. If it is damaged pay the mechanics for say a Knock down (Or a little less) and take your money elsewhere.

Hope that helps.
 
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