The complete pool outfit, help needed

Solartje

Solartje

the Brunswick BUG bit me
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hi all, after many hours spend here, i finally know all i needed to know about cue's, and i will be ordering them soon, but now ive got these questions.

what extra's do i need to have.

- chalk/ chalkholder
- gloves
- + .....

there are SO many things out there.

wax, Q Smooth ,Q Clean, Q Slick , Q Glide , special papers, tip tapper, tip picks, tip shaper, cue cube, this, that blallalaa. i have NO idea at all, what is good, what is needed etc etc. As i will be ordering my cue + case soon, id like to include also all the xtra's that a player needs. Could u give me a list of items i NEED to include in my offer, so i wont have to repurchase from them later and having to pay alot of shipping fee's.

so a list of the COMPLETE pool gear needed. thx in advance for the answers.

ps ill be ordering at fmcue's, so it would be easyer to buy the xtras there too. here are the 2 links, id like to know, what is needed and what is a good product.
http://www.fmcue.nl/assets/s2dmain.html?http://www.fmcue.nl/ (cue accesoires -- cue care +cue tip tools)
 
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ok the only tool I use.....

The only tool I use for my cue is the ultimate cue shaper, or whatever it's called. It allows you to shape down the mushroom effect, keep the tip shaped, and burnish the tip on the fly. If you get in the habit of doing this whenever your tip needs it, you will be one step ahead on avoiding miscues and getting a consistent hit.

I would also get a silk cloth for cleaning your shaft.
 
Chalk

The main thing is just having good chalk. I buy the little master dozens and keep a box in my bag. I good bridgehead is good to have as well. Spinali makes a good one that you can stick on the end of a barcue.

I use rough sandpaper to shape my tip every once in awhile. Mooris seem to keep their shape pretty well.

If you are ordering things- I would order all of the Phil Cappelle books. I would def. buy those before I bought a pool glove, or gimcrack.
 
FWIW - what I have and what I use.

Pocket Chalker
Use this all the time.

Master Chalk, box12
Place I play doesn't always have chalk. 1 cube lasts several months of every day play.

Tip Tapper
Use this maybe once every couple of months but rock back and forth on the tip rather than tapping.

Bridgehead, Moose Type
Use this because the place I play has metal headed bridges that ding my shafts.

Billiard Towel, 8-ball
To wipe cues before putting them in the case. Of course, any small towel would do.

Cue Slicker
Have one of these, but never use it.

Smooth Cue Paper
Have McMagic by McDermott and something similar from Nick Varner. Use them all the time to keep shafts smooth.

Joint Protectors
Use them on a Fury J/B quick release, but not any of my cues with regular joints.

Tips
I currently use Talisman Pro Hard, but nobody can tell you what you will like.

Jim Eales
 
Best Outfit

HA! I thought you were going to ask what you should wear when playing pool!

My outfit of choice is the following for home play: Muscle shirt, Sweat-pants, and Aqua Shoes. I also keep my chalk on a holder on my waistband and use a glove so I don't get powder on the table (hands sweat a lot).

I've tried all different types of gloves...but they always wear-out very fast where the heel of the hand touches the cloth.

I'm also looking for a better tool to reshape a slightly mushroomed tip. The Ultimate Tip Shaper tends to wear into the ferrule too much.
 
Get_A_Grip said:
HA! I thought you were going to ask what you should wear when playing pool!

My outfit of choice is the following for home play: Muscle shirt, Sweat-pants, and Aqua Shoes. I also keep my chalk on a holder on my waistband and use a glove so I don't get powder on the table (hands sweat a lot).

I've tried all different types of gloves...but they always wear-out very fast where the heel of the hand touches the cloth.

I'm also looking for a better tool to reshape a slightly mushroomed tip. The Ultimate Tip Shaper tends to wear into the ferrule too much.
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Try the SuperTool for mushroomed tips:
http://www.cuesight.com/sutool.html
I find it to be superior to the UltiMate tool, especially to solve the problem you mention.
 
I carry a chalk holder....I hate chasing chalk down when I'm in the bubble...a towel is something I started carrying recently...a slip-on bridge is a prerequisite too...
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showboat said:
I carry a chalk holder....I hate chasing chalk down when I'm in the bubble...a towel is something I started carrying recently...a slip-on bridge is a prerequisite too...
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Absolutely. A towel is a must. A golf towel works well because of the loop. You can hook it onto your cue case.
 
thoughts ...

I will probably get blasted on this one, but it is really hard
to take anyone that wears a glove to be a serious Pool player.
They are kind of viewed like a 'sissy'. Do you think wearing
gloves has helped Earl? I don't.
 
Hey Solly,

You can spend a bunch of money on all kinds of accessories but I'll give you the cheap way. 1) soft padded case or cheap hard case 2) joint protectors 3) paste wax from auto parts store or ski shop with "carnuba" (very important) 4) Master chalk 5) 150 grit sandpaper from hardware or auto parts store 6) cotton material from an old t-shirt 7) pocket chalk holder 8) small leather or chamois square 9) small hand towel 10) dime, nickle or quarter

Wax your cue shaft and ferrule (don't get any on the tip), buff with t-shirt material (except ferrule), use sand paper and your choice of coin curve to shape tip and then burnish with the leather, keep tip roughed with sandpaper once every couple of weeks, each time before you play take t-shirt material and rub shaft hard just until it starts to get warm this will make it smooth as glass, the dried wax on the ferrule makes ferrule cleanup easy, re-wax shaft every few months. you can also "burnish" the shaft with the leather.;)

Terry
 
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Scott, id feel pritty sissy with those gloves too :p

Smooth Cue Paper: what does it do? how u aply it?
tip tapper: what is his function?

those total tip tools look ok, but i have NO idea how to use it...

also ive read on many posts about slipstick or slipsilk or something named like that. :o sorry im very bad in words i dont know. why hasnt anyone mentioned it?

if u clean your shaft, u just use the towel? u dont need some product to keep the finish smooth etc?

sorry for the nabish questions.
 
Snapshot9 said:
I will probably get blasted on this one, but it is really hard
to take anyone that wears a glove to be a serious Pool player.
They are kind of viewed like a 'sissy'. Do you think wearing
gloves has helped Earl? I don't.
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I kind-of agree. I only wear one when I'm playing at home so I don't mess up my table. I use powder in the pool rooms and a towel to wipe down my stick.

But...if I thought that I needed to wear a glove out in public (if powder didn't cut it), I certainly would.
 
Solartje said:
Smooth Cue Paper: what does it do? how u aply it?
tip tapper: what is his function?


if u clean your shaft, u just use the towel? u dont need some product to keep the finish smooth etc?
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1) Smooth Cue paper is just to polish....like I said you can use t-shirt or leather.

2)Tip tapper has lots of little pointy things to rough the tip....like I said you can use a peice of sandpaper instead.

3) once the shaft is sealed you can use t-shirt, soft towel or leather to polish and smooth.....anything you use to seal the shaft "WILL" become tacky sooner or later...when it does just polish it smooth again.


Terry
 
Terry ...

Tbeaux said:
Hey Solly,

You can spend a bunch of money on all kinds of accessories but I'll give you the cheap way. 1) soft padded case or cheap hard case 2) joint protectors 3) paste wax from auto parts store or ski shop with "carnuba" (very important) 4) Master chalk 5) 150 grit sandpaper from hardware or auto parts store 6) cotton material from an old t-shirt 7) pocket chalk holder 8) small leather or chamois square 9) small hand towel 10) dime, nickle or quarter

Wax your cue shaft and ferrule (don't get any on the tip), buff with t-shirt material (except ferrule), use sand paper and your choice of coin curve to shape tip and then burnish with the leather, keep tip roughed with sandpaper once every couple of weeks, each time before you play take t-shirt material and rub shaft hard just until it starts to get warm this will make it smooth as glass, the dried wax on the ferrule makes ferrule cleanup easy, re-wax shaft every few months. you can also "burnish" the shaft with the leather.;)

Terry
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My cuemaker, Bob Owen of Shurtz custom cues, told me that to never
use anything to slick your shaft up but a WOOD POLISHER. Any other
product has chemicals in it that degrades the wood in your shaft over
time. I took him at his word since he knows about it much more than I
do.
 
Snapshot9 said:
My cuemaker, Bob Owen of Shurtz custom cues, told me that to never
use anything to slick your shaft up but a WOOD POLISHER. Any other
product has chemicals in it that degrades the wood in your shaft over
time. I took him at his word since he knows about it much more than I
do.
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Actually wood polishers are not good either. They are great for furniture that you look at, but keep in mind that you are stroking the cue. These products mix with moistures and they will cause more tackiness than putting nothing on the cue shaft at all. Best is nothing at all, just a towel and keep clean hands.

Also, you are correct about stuff causing damage to wood but even more so, your eyes.
 
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just my .02
i don't use a towel-probably should--- i use my shirt all the time :-) kinda like wiping your hands on your pants after you wash i guess.... so i suppose a towel is a good thing.
i do carry a glove in my bag. Traveling playing, i run into places mostly in summer that are too warm and humid and my hands are prone to 'sticking' on the shaft and screw up my concentration and stroke. I do look like a sissie though-luckily i'm 6'2" ..... :-)
i carry a williard tip shaper tool. I use it when my tip just isn't in the right shape. it has a round dime shape file thingie and a flat one too...
i carry a tip-pic-- for when my tip is shaped but glazed over and doesn't hold chalk too well... a few pics and you're in...
i clean my shafts with mr clean eraser sponge then with alchohol to finish. Then i use cue silk.... i used to use cue clean but mr clean does well <trick i learned at the poolhall>
i carry 250 sandpaper for big annoying dings that need to be smoothed, 600 to finish and take out tiny nicks.. i use diamond cut paper as i just works better
i carry a chalk holder <magnetic belt kind> and master chalk. If the place i play has new good master chalk, i use theirs, but more times than not it's old broken up pieces.....
good luck on your new cues!
 
Scott, isnt wax a natural wood polisher?

so this wax;
http://www.fmcue.nl/assets/s2dmain....9e1f/100000962b0c2ca5c/10000096ac0b84809.html

and this square
http://www.fmcue.nl/assets/s2dmain....9e1f/100000962b0c2df65/10000095f60d0440e.html

and a grit paper from local store is all i need. (exept from chalk + holder, and towel to clean my hands, and extension)


So if i get it right. once my tip is muschrooming, i use the grit to give it the right size.
when i get my cue, i use the wax and that square thing to smooth and polish it till it glides perfect. then i only use the square thingy before i play to rub over the shaft but not the ferule, and once i see the wax is gone, i just reput some wax on?

another question. i dont get why first u use the leather to burnish the tip (burnisch means making it smooth right?) and then u use the grit paper to make it fluffy again.

thx again for the info scott, tbeaux and the rest.


EDIT: now people are saying different things ... U are confusing solly :D wax, slipstick, cue silk; alcohol?
 
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Snapshot9 said:
My cuemaker, Bob Owen of Shurtz custom cues, told me that to never
use anything to slick your shaft up but a WOOD POLISHER. Any other
product has chemicals in it that degrades the wood in your shaft over
time. I took him at his word since he knows about it much more than I
do.
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Some cuemakers say don't use anything at all and you can go that route too, just use the leather to burnish the wood when it gets tacky. A carnuba paste wax would likely take years (many,many years) to affect the wood if the cuemaker did the job right and sealed the shaft pores (some don't). The main thing is to try and keep the shaft clean so you don't have to do much to the shaft.

Terry
 
Solartje said:
Scott, isnt wax a natural wood polisher?

so this wax;
http://www.fmcue.nl/assets/s2dmain....9e1f/100000962b0c2ca5c/10000096ac0b84809.html

and this square
http://www.fmcue.nl/assets/s2dmain....9e1f/100000962b0c2df65/10000095f60d0440e.html

and a grit paper from local store is all i need. (exept from chalk + holder, and towel to clean my hands, and extension)


So if i get it right. once my tip is muschrooming, i use the grit to give it the right size.
when i get my cue, i use the wax and that square thing to smooth and polish it till it glides perfect. then i only use the square thingy before i play to rub over the shaft but not the ferule, and once i see the wax is gone, i just reput some wax on?

another question. i dont get why first u use the leather to burnish the tip (burnisch means making it smooth right?) and then u use the grit paper to make it fluffy again.

thx again for the info scott, tbeaux and the rest.
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RIGHT Solly,

You ONLY burnish the sides of the tip to help prevent mushrooming, the part that you chalk needs to be roughed up.

Terry
 
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