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Fatboy

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I read that also, there goes my last excuse. Damn science!!
it does work, but talking to the balls works better. Trust me on this, keep practicing your body English and talking to the balls. You’ll see-you will improve. It’s when you stop talking to them or the body English the balls don’t perform as well.

Best
Fatboy <———-serious post, practice practice practice and you’ll play better😀
 

chefjeff

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it does work, but talking to the balls works better. Trust me on this, keep practicing your body English and talking to the balls. You’ll see-you will improve. It’s when you stop talking to them or the body English the balls don’t perform as well.

Best
Fatboy <———-serious post, practice practice practice and you’ll play better😀

You know why the balls can't listen?

Cuz if they had ears, they wouldn't roll straight.


Jeff Livingston
 

wakuljr

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it does work, but talking to the balls works better. Trust me on this, keep practicing your body English and talking to the balls. You’ll see-you will improve. It’s when you stop talking to them or the body English the balls don’t perform as well.

Best
Fatboy <———-serious post, practice practice practice and you’ll play better😀
I do talk to the balls but I had to stop cause they started talking back, worst part is they were right. 😫 just kidding, they arent always right!!
 

HueblerHustler7

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lol Yes Ive read and seen videos covering this, Gravity effects all and down to where you are located in the world, Even people discussing friction and magnetism. OH no The balls are rolling funny they are sticking together lol
 

Dan White

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For those interested in deep physics....

His stated assumptions say there is no friction. I have to think this is a deal killer in the real world. In his hypothetical model there is a small amount of difference cause by the player's mass -- but even that is more than I would have guessed. If this is about collisions in deep space that's one thing but on a pool table with friction and inelastic collisions I'm thinking the difference would be zero out to however many decimals you want to go.
 

Bob Jewett

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For those interested in deep physics....

The guy didn't pick a very good shot setup to see the effect. The largest change in the path of the balls for a small change in the original path of the cue ball happens on thin cuts. He has most of his nine balls close to each other -- another thing that reduces variations -- and with nearly full hits.

I think there are also situations where a very small initial change has a multiplied effect. Here's a kiss shot that might do the trick.... Consider a ball a few inches from a cushion and the cue ball coming in nearly perpendicular to the cushion to just skim the ball then the cue ball hits the cushion and comes back and kisses the object ball a second time. The second hit will be fuller for a thinner initial hit both because the OB will not have moved as far out of the path of the bouncing cue ball but also because the cue ball will not have been deflected as far. Here's the shot:

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And here's a "gauntlet" for the cue ball to run through. Any small error at the start is going to be multiplied by each successive contact. With a thin hit, that multiplication of angular error can be a factor of 10 or more on each collision.

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Bob Jewett

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His stated assumptions say there is no friction. I have to think this is a deal killer in the real world. In his hypothetical model there is a small amount of difference cause by the player's mass -- but even that is more than I would have guessed. If this is about collisions in deep space that's one thing but on a pool table with friction and inelastic collisions I'm thinking the difference would be zero out to however many decimals you want to go.
The friction is more or less irrelevant because the ball is in motion. The gravity is just another form of table roll. As long as the ball is in motion, the force of gravity sideways will have an effect.
 

Dan White

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The friction is more or less irrelevant because the ball is in motion. The gravity is just another form of table roll. As long as the ball is in motion, the force of gravity sideways will have an effect.
I'm saying that any potential gravity effect from the body will be negated by the friction of the cloth preventing any sideways motion. I believe there is a small depression in the cloth created at the ball/cloth contact point and this will prevent that table roll effect... but then I am not a physicist.
 
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