What is so special about Cognoscenti cues?
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Cogs,,,,,,,,
Cogs are known for their incredible playability. Last time I spoke to ''Freddy the Beard'' , he told me he was playing with a new Cog and loves it,,,Freddy has seen his share of wood over the years too and is a world class banker to boot..!!
Joe Gold is now making wrapless cues,,,freaking beautiful,,,check them out at www.Indyq.com.........
like ''Freddy '' would say ''you can thank me later''..........!!
Cogs are known for their incredible playability. Last time I spoke to ''Freddy the Beard'' , he told me he was playing with a new Cog and loves it,,,Freddy has seen his share of wood over the years too and is a world class banker to boot..!!
Joe Gold is now making wrapless cues,,,freaking beautiful,,,check them out at www.Indyq.com.........
like ''Freddy '' would say ''you can thank me later''..........!!
But how come when people discussed about the best cues in terms of playability here on AZ, Cog did not come up too often. What do you prefer to have between Cog and TS?
While the pin is different, he is far from a significant contributor. He is a significant user of CNC in his cues, and I find little impressive about any I have seen. I have played with a few and they played okay to downright awful.
Kersenbrock? yes. Gold? no.
Ken
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Nothing special about them in my opinion
BilliardPhotos
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There is nothing special about them. Now go on with you life!
Unless they really jumped up in price since last year they were about $1300 and $1500 if you wanted the silver rings.
His cues have that mystique. They have a glass pin that some feel makes the cue perform better.
Others just like the sound of saying that they play with a Cog.
His cues have that mystique. They have a glass pin that some feel makes the cue perform better.
Others just like the sound of saying that they play with a Cog.
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Shoebat
I walked in on a coworker just after he got off the phone with his girlfriend, and he was pissed. Me being another woman who had the very bad luck of walking in right then, he let loose:
"How come you women need to break a man for jewelry? Is it the cost of the diamonds that makes you think you've got him now? The pain of the price is proof of his attachment to you?!? What is UP with women and jewelry- just tell me the truth!"
There was a pause and I realized he really wanted an answer.
I shrugged and told him the truth: "It's shiny."
So I never got to hit with a Cog, but I do want one- badly, in fact. Why? It's pretty, and the rings are so shiny.
Honest.
"How come you women need to break a man for jewelry? Is it the cost of the diamonds that makes you think you've got him now? The pain of the price is proof of his attachment to you?!? What is UP with women and jewelry- just tell me the truth!"
There was a pause and I realized he really wanted an answer.
I shrugged and told him the truth: "It's shiny."
So I never got to hit with a Cog, but I do want one- badly, in fact. Why? It's pretty, and the rings are so shiny.
Honest.
Probably by today's standards, not too much anymore because there are so many good cues, but bear in mind he innovated this style of cue design (now used by Josey and others) with CNC scrollwork in detail that had not been seen at the time.
The prices were really up there for awhile as many of his cues were going to a buyer/dealer in Japan, so his cues were hard to get. Limited supply drove prices up. This is true of a number of cue makers - then when that deal ended in Japan seveal years ago he started selling them here again.
Chris
they're overrated imo. the plane jane ones are worth the dough but the inlayed ones are way overpriced
I think Scott Frost uses one ,,,,,,,,??
Ive always wondered why a LOT of cues sell for what they do
Ive never had the chance to spend enough playing with a Cog to comment on how well they hit, but I did have the opportunity to spend some time around Joey and can tell you he was a blast to hang out with :thumbup:
Not that that effects the value of a cue.
Woody
I've played with 3. Two were ebony, and one was a bacote.
While the craftsmanship was great, the play was sup-par.
I could name off about a dozen cuemakers that, not only make a better playing cue, but do so at a MUCH more reasonable price.
you said that way better than i did. there're plenty of cue makers right here on az that can make you a cue that'll look as good if not better and will for sure play better.
bryan mordt, masonh, varney (yeah i'm not a fan of his personally but i've hit with a few of his cues and dollar for dollar i'd say they're the better cue)
even the guy that made the deano cue play better imo. i think i just don't like the long taper. the shafts still play stiff but the taper seems too long for me
The ones that I've played with left a little to be desired when it came to playability. Let's just say "less that sensative?" Hard to explain, but every Coc owner that I know that also enjoys the way their cues play has done some kind of tweaking with the tapers on the shafts. Straight out of the box? Not for me. However, (and I've said this before) along with Josey, and Bobby Hunter, some of the only CNC inlayed and 'overlayed' cues that I consider appealing and tastefull.
dave
dave
Obviously Ken you are entitled to your own opinion as we all are. With that said, I would like to bring to your attention a few facts about Cog's. Silver stitch ring and the G10 pin. Gold was doing these when no one else was doing this. Now start counting how many cue-makers have followed in his footsteps. His inlay work is impeccable.
My Cog and I will be happy to play you. I won't give you the 7 and out like you asked, but I will be happy playing you with the wild 8. You CAN'T possibly consider yourself a barometer for the playability of any cue at your level of play. I'll be waiting for your reply after you have had a group conference on how best to reply back to me. lol
I bought several in his early days. Until I met him in person and based on his personality, I'll never buy another. No matter what the price is.
I'd rather play with a $30 pawn shop cue.
What's so special??...............in my opinion.................nothing!!
Jimmyrayk
I'd rather play with a $30 pawn shop cue.
What's so special??...............in my opinion.................nothing!!
Jimmyrayk
Inquiring minds want to know! Please add some details.
Do you mind sharing with me what is the best player in terms of playability that you have been played with?